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Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 04 2011,13:46) Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 01 2011,03:28)
I thought you would EASILY see the problem and that would be the end of it but then you tried to twist the situation and blame me…
Go here:It makes it much more readable and easier to follow, when you quote relevant parts only
Left click on the link in the first post down and your eyes will be opened
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Edj,
You are confused. It is not a problem when quoting part of a post, it is a problem when changing someone's post, i.e. taking out numbers or words in the part you quote or taking out words in the part that someone else is quoting when you include the quote that they are quoting in your response.Also, you have accused me of having false truth about your posting ethics. What is false truth if not a lie, Edj. Using the words 'false truth' is the same as accusing someone of lying.
Another example of Edj accusing me to others in a way to defame me and acting like I was incorrect in my judgement and also acting like you have not judged me for the past six months.
Quote Posted: Jan. 04 2011,10:02
Hi Irene,Asking God to forgive someone, is asking them to avoid being judged;
why is this “Bible Truth” such a hard thing for you to understand?Kathi was judging me, yet you seemed to support her accusations;
why would you do this, if you're against judging like you say?My response:
Quote Edj (Irene this might interest you too although not directed towards you),
Judging rightly and to aim for understanding is not a bad thing, it is expected. Judging wrongly is the problem.You have been JUDGING me as a liar over and over to others for the past 6 months or so, now, and when I called you out on it you pulled the “woe is me who is being persecuted” delusion. You never did deny that you were JUDGING me as liar and you are falsely JUDGING me as a hypocrite now too, elsewhere. Now, do we have to go to t8 to get this to stop?
You speak against me to Irene in the above quote of yours as if you haven't been judging me for the past 6 months. The difference between my judgement and yours is that yours is a false judgement or at the very least, a judgement you make out of great confusion. If we judge, we are to judge rightly. I have tried to clear up your confusion but you have not seemed to show a heart for trying to understand.
This might help:
Quote Jesus commanded men to judge rightly and He told them to “judge not.”
Did the Lord contradict Himself? Or does the Bible say more about judging than the general public realizes?
Jesus repeatedly taught men to judge rightly, insisting they “judge with righteous judgment” (John 7:24) and He praised a man who “rightly judged” (Luke 7:43). Paul shamed the Corinthian Christians because no one among them was willing to “judge the smallest matters” (1 Cor. 6:2). As the Apostle wrote, “He who is spiritual judges all things” for “we have the mind of Christ” (1 Cor. 2:15‑16).
Where did we get the notion that men should never judge? Should child-molesters escape condemnation? Should rapists be free from criticism? Should society refrain from judging those arrested for murder? And why would anyone judge others for judging?
from here: http://kgov.com/docs/JudgeRightly.htmlJohn 7:24
“Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment.”Luke 7:43
Simon answered and said, “I suppose the one whom he forgave more.” And He said to him, “You have judged correctly.”1 Cor 6:2
Or do you not know that the saints will judge the world? If the world is judged by you, are you not competent to constitute the smallest law courts?1 Cor 2:15
The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man's judgment:I will add this conversation to the Edj's Opportunity topic because it continues to show how you speak against me TO OTHERS and defame me…acting as innocent yourself. If you feel defamed by this action, then it is your action that defames you, mine action towards you simply exposes proof that my judgement is valid.
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Psalm 39:9 I was dumb, I opened not my mouth; because thou didst it. (Psalm 50:15-23 / Psalm 139:1-5)
Ezekiel 3:26 I(YHVH) will make thy tongue(Ed J) cleave to the roof of thy mouth,
that thou shalt be dumb, and shalt not be to them a reprover: for they are a rebellious house.
But when I speak with thee, I(YHVH) will open thy mouth(Ed J), and thou shalt say unto them,
Thus saith ; He that heareth, let him hear; and he that forbeareth,
let him forbear: for they are a rebellious house. (What do I do if they do neither?)Isaiah 27:4-5 Fury is not in me(Ed J): who would set the briers and thorns against me in battle?
I(Ed J) would go through them, I would burn them together. Or let him take hold of my(Ed J)
strength(YHVH), that he may make peace with me; and he shall make peace with me.Isaiah 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper;
and every tongue that shall rise against thee(Ed J) in judgment thou shalt condemn.
This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith .Witnessing to a worldwide audience in behalf of YHVH!
117=יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14 / Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 29 2010,12:40) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 29 2010,12:20) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 28 2010,14:56) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 26 2010,15:32) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 26 2010,14:58) Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 26 2010,12:26) Another of your derogatory comments…a problem you have that you are NOT dealing with. Quote (<—————————————>) I have also taken this type of stand against Kathi, (her 'false truth') regarding my ethics in Posting.
At first you, having backed her up, were playing the roll of 'ACCUSER'(satan) against me.But now that you understand my intentions are pure;
you (as a site Monitor) have backed me up
on several occasions here a h-net.Both Mike and Shimmer have done to my Posts,
what Kathi accused me of doing to her Posts.
But the difference was: I did not accuse,
I instead dealt with 'the problem'!
from: https://heavennet.net/cgi-bin….y278282Maybe I should be flattered that you dwell on this Ed. Why don't you want to DEAL with this? You bring this up so much.
I am glad that you admit that what you did was a 'problem' that is the first step in the right direction that you have taken.
The root of Hypocrisy! (Click Here)
Romans 2:3: And thinkest thou this, O man(?),
that judgest them which do such things, and doest
the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God?
So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.
Ezek.28:9 Wilt thou yet say before him that slayeth thee, i am God?
but thou shalt be a man, and no God, in the hand of him that slayeth thee.
Isa.41:23-24 Show the things that are to come hereafter, that we may know that
ye are gods: yea, do good, or do evil, that we may be dismayed, and behold it together.
Behold, ye are of nothing, and your work of nought: an abomination is he that chooseth you.
That confirmeth the word of his servant(Ed J), and performeth the counsel of his messengers. (Isaiah 44:26)Witnessing to a worldwide audience in behalf of YHVH!
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14 / Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 01 2010,08:16)
I accused you of hacking up my postQuote (Ed J @ Dec. 26 2010,11:40) Quote (JustAskin @ Dec. 26 2010,10:48) Jesus will make a public Spectacle of…
when their laws are shown to be worthless.
I have also taken this type of stand against Kathi, (her 'false truth') regarding my ethics in Posting.
At first you, having backed her up, were playing the roll of 'ACCUSER'(satan) against me.But now that you understand my intentions are pure;
you (as a site Monitor) have backed me up
on several occasions here a h-net.Both Mike and Shimmer have done to my Posts,
what Kathi accused me of doing to her Posts.
But the difference was: I did not accuse,
I instead dealt with 'the problem'!Your “Spiritual” brother
in Christ, Jesus!
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hi EveryoneThis one Proves that she and others do and have done
the very same thing that I stand accused of doing.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
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Romans 2:3 And thinkest thou this, O man,
that judgest them which do such things, and doest
the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God?
So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.(Rom.14:12)
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Re-bumpQuote (Ed J @ Jan. 05 2011,05:46) Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 01 2011,03:28)
I thought you would EASILY see the problem and that would be the end of it but then you tried to twist the situation and blame me…
Go here:It makes it much more readable and easier to follow, when you quote relevant parts only
Left click on the link in the first post down and your eyes will be opened
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BumpHi Everyone,
Peace of the Lord Jesus Christ to everyone.
Point #1
Let's say someone believes in (the false doctrine of) 'the rapture'.
If they go about promoting this 'FALSE TRUTH'; are they liars?Point #2
Let’s say there is a person who drinks every day.
One day this person is in a collision killing three people.
Now if someone was to mention (let’s say) six months after the
crash, the facts pertaining to the collision, would you have a problem
with that? Then you see my point. Presenting information is what forums
are for; and discussing “Christian behavior” is part of Christian forums; No?Witnessing to a worldwide audience in behalf of YHVH!
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14 / Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)Edj,
You are demonstrating that you do not understand the intent of t8's words.If I said something like:
He is really sorry for being angry and then you took out the words 'sorry for' and just quoted part of what I said as 'He is really angry' then you truly have only quoted part of a post which is relevant only if you intended to misrepresent it. So what you seem to find as relevant in what you were quoting 6 months ago, I find as misrepresenting truth.
t8 would never say that it is ok to quote what YOU believe as relevant if it misrepresents someone's original quote.
Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 05 2011,08:19) Edj,
You weren't 'discussing' Christian behavior, you were accusing.Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 01 2010,08:16) You never acknowledge any wrong doing even though you clearly were wrong… Lightenup,
Ed J. is a mystic and he uses mystic interpretations. That should be clear to anyone that knows him since he is fond of a bible code. Make sure he is actually misquoting you and not using a mystical interpretation of a play on your words to make his own point.
Jesus made a mystical play on the subject of the temple in Jerusalem to make the poiint that he would be crucified and resurected. He did the same thing on other cases as with the Samaritan woman at the well.
I believe Ed takes his mysticism further than scripture does though Jesus seems to employ numbers in many of his parables.
Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 05 2011,15:22) Lightenup, Ed J. is a mystic and he uses mystic interpretations. That should be clear to anyone that knows him since he is fond of a bible code. Make sure he is actually misquoting you and not using a mystical interpretation of a play on your words to make his own point.
Jesus made a mystical play on the subject of the temple in Jerusalem to make the poiint that he would be crucified and resurected. He did the same thing on other cases as with the Samaritan woman at the well.
I believe Ed takes his mysticism further than scripture does though Jesus seems to employ numbers in many of his parables.
Hi Kerwin,Please give us all some examples of 'mystic interpretations' of
the bible (according to Kerwin) that I have used? (1Thess.5:21)Witnessing to a worldwide audience in behalf of YHVH!
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14 / Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)Ed J.
Mystism is much and falsely maligned in this age of “reason”. Jesus used it as a teaching tool as did many other Jews of his time. I believe that in your use of the bible code you ignorantly take the concepts too far but that is an issue you need to deal with God about as I am merely a messenger at best. If you truly do it to honor the Lord and not from the sinful nature then I see no real harm in it. Just be careful that is the case.
I will do a study on the relationship between mysticism and the bible code you advocate when and if the God leads me to do so and I am wise enough to listen to him. If you care you can do the research yourself.
Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 05 2011,19:55) Ed J. Mystism is much and falsely maligned in this age of “reason”. Jesus used it as a teaching tool as did many other Jews of his time. I believe that in your use of the bible code you ignorantly take the concepts too far but that is an issue you need to deal with God about as I am merely a messenger at best. If you truly do it to honor the Lord and not from the sinful nature then I see no real harm in it. Just be careful that is the case.
I will do a study on the relationship between mysticism and the bible code you advocate when and if the God leads me to do so and I am wise enough to listen to him. If you care you can do the research yourself.
Greetings Kerwin….A very accurate accessmant with a special emphasis on wisdom….The scriptures are coded by design and Jesus spoke in parables for a good reason….and that reason was to confuse and confound the learned and those who perceived themselves as the wise by virtue of their position in church leadership or local government…The truth of the scripture still evades these folks even with their recitation and paroting of chapter and verse…There is only one foundation that anyone can build their spiritual house on. The solid rock, Jesus, the bedrock of truth from God. Any doctrine, or belief established from any scripture in the Bible must align with the words of truth from Jesus. A doctrine learned at a religious gathering will only stand the test if it is built on facts Jesus presented. This includes things said by any disciples, Paul, Timothy, James et.al.! All doctrines built upon Jesus' words from God are final. One can dance all over the Bible finding scriptures by others that may or may not coincide with the words of Jesus but they will not stand if they are not founded in Jesus! IMO, TK
Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 05 2011,19:55) Ed J. Mystism is much and falsely maligned in this age of “reason”. Jesus used it as a teaching tool as did many other Jews of his time. I believe that in your use of the bible code you ignorantly take the concepts too far but that is an issue you need to deal with God about as I am merely a messenger at best. If you truly do it to honor the Lord and not from the sinful nature then I see no real harm in it. Just be careful that is the case.
I will do a study on the relationship between mysticism and the bible code you advocate when and if the God leads me to do so and I am wise enough to listen to him. If you care you can do the research yourself.
Hi Kerwin,I don't usually talk about Theomatics(numbers in Scripture) with beginner Christians,
but Atheists and those claiming to be Agnostic is different, needing the exposure!
As personal testimony of “God” means absolutely NOTHING to these people.
So let me tell you mine: I've had my understanding of God for 30 years
before numbers (such as you see in my Posts) were introduced to me.Have any of you ever seen the Jim Cary movie called: ‘Bruce Almighty’?
Well there is a scene where he is crying out to God… “God to show me a sign”!
He drives past one sign that says “Bridge Out” and then another that says “Caution”.
He is completely oblivious to the “many signs”, continuing towards an incomplete Bridge.
That is how numbers were for me, “no interest” “didn't care”, still I kept seeing the number 54,
but didn't have a clue as to why? Then I was introduced to a book, Theomatics II by Del Washburn.Or Are you familiar with the Prophet Amos?
Amos 7:14 …I was no prophet, neither was I a prophet's son;
but I was an herdman, and a gatherer of sycomore fruit: And the LORD took
me as I followed the flock, and the LORD said unto me, Go, prophesy unto my people Israel.Well my story is very similar, God still uses people today and God has called me
to write a book that now documents the very “PROOF of God's existence”.
I have no buffeting spirit, like the Apostle Paul had, as I have no ego.
YHVH=63 has even wrote about me in his book: “The Bible”=63.This has only been done (as I see things) to be used as conclusive proof of GOD's existence.
Without it, I would be considered just another “crackpot”, in a long history of ‘crackpots’.
My good friend Gary Robb once said: “Nobody can know everything about everything”.
But God's kingdom is “real” and the extent of this proof is yet to be revealed to all.Sorry for the Autobiography, but it is necessary to this thread.
Numbers are corroborative evidence only; nothing more.
I have learned based on numbers: No “Theology”,
though satan might tell you all differently!God bless (Joshua 22:34 / Psalm 119:98-101)
Ed J (Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgCall unto me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not …JEHOVAH GOD
Defining the terms…
Gematria: is the use of number valuations, associating different words together, through integers.
“Gematria” is a powerful tool, which can be used with Hebrew, Greek and English languages;
illustrating that through the use number associations: Gematria even crosses languages barriers.Theomatics: is the practice of using “Gematria” to associate Theological ideas together;
through the use of multiplication factors derived from their Gematria valuations.The God Numbers: are specific reoccurring “Theomatic numbers” in the AKJV Bible;
that not only help to prove GOD’s existence, but also help to clarify many doctrinal beliefs.Gematria: illustrated as a parable, is much like a loaded gun…
Is a gun an instrument of evil? That depends on how it is used; doesn’t it?
In the hands of a rebellious criminal, it is indeed. Yet put that same gun
in the hands of a trained Police officer and it becomes an instrument of peace.Prov.25:2 It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honor of kings is to search out a matter.
Proverbs 18:13 He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him.
This powerful information is relatively unknown to mainstream Christianity, yet it's function is
neither irrelevant nor inconsequential; and can be proven that God orchestrated it’s design!
In the free e-book called “HolyCityBibleCode”, I expound upon these proofs in greater detail.Purpose of Theomatics
Stringing words together to try to tell a story does only that, tell a story.
What people need is the information that clicks on the inside of them.
Then they are in a better position to help expose the truth to others,
completing a never ending cycle of establishing “TRUTH”. (Psalm 78:4-7)I believe that the truth of English Gematria needs to be exposed by people
like you and me before we will see any real change in the world, as the religious
community will not even touch it until their religious leaders at least begin to take it
seriously. Then they will be in a better position to prove GOD exists to a non-believing
world, which will ultimately benefit us all. Creating a better world for Generations to come!Sincerely,
Ed J“There is an intelligence originating outside of time that can now
be mathematically linked to the Christian Bible and even labeled… “GOD”!“I have a thread in the >> “Believers Section” >> “The Bible” >> called…
God is NOW PROVEN to be encoded in AKJV Bible!,
Offers proof of God's existenceGod's signature
יהוה=26 (God's Name: YHVH pronounced YÄ-hä-vā)
God The Father=117 (Representing God's Name and title GOD: יהוה האלהים)
Jesus=74 (God's Son's English Name: “Joshua”)
YHVH=63 (God's Name: יהוה transliterated into English)
HolySpirit=151 (“The word”: structure of “GOD” indwelling in us believers!)People need: “BIBLE PERCEPTION“=151, to understand “BIBLE TRUTH“=117 ! (AKJV Ephesians 4:22-24)
The God Numbers=151 are: 26, 63, 74, 117 & 151; these numbers are used to show “Bible Truth”=117!
The thrust of my research is to convince people who are truly 'Agnostic' that YHVH does in fact exist!English Theomatics uses a very simple method of assigning numerical values
where letters of English alphabet correspond to numbers according to their
alphabetical order (A-Z ↔ 1-26). This means corresponding letters and number
values are as follows: “A=one”, “B=two”, etc. English Theomatics can then
be used to tie words and numbers together to reflect meanings such as:
the Divine=63 Deity=63 of The Bible=63 is YHVH=63. The implications
of this statement are obvious. Numbers link the association of certain
ideas together within a number category that I call “The God numbers”.The starting of this thread was prompted during discourse on another thread… (Click Here)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Jan. 05 2011,12:19) Quote (mikeangel @ Jan. 04 2011,23:58)
I repent of any harsh statements I have hade out of weakness.Peace- Mark
Hi Mark,Of course I forgive you! I just wish others (no names) would have the same Christian attitude.
Your brother
in Christ, Jesus!
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgIsaiah 49:16 Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands; thy walls are continually before me.
Isaiah 60:14 The sons also of them that afflicted thee shall come bending unto thee; and all they
that despised thee shall bow themselves down at the soles of thy feet; and they shall
call thee(Ed J), The city of the LORD, The Zion of the Holy One of Israel.Who hath prevented me, that I should repay him? whatsoever is under the whole heaven is mine. …JEHOVAH GOD
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