Dry Bones Shall Live

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  • #831585
    GeneBalthrop
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    NICK, show where i oppose the teachings of Jesus, please, show us where the “kingdom” of darknes” is
    Mentioned in scripture. Whats amazing to me is, you accuse me of opposing the teachings of Jesus but unable to show one place where i oppose him.

    Believe me when i tell you i don’t believe i disagree with anything Jesus said, but i do disagree with your interputations of what some things he was saying. Why make derogatory statements about me and yet produce no specific proof.

    When i post to what you say, you simply ignore it , and come back with a blank statement, that does not address what i have posted. You did the same thing with Jodi. Never able to address exactly what she said.

    Seems if you don’t properly uderstand something you attack those who do and say their are opposing the teachings of Jesus, have you ever though you may be opposing the true teachings of him yourself?

    Peace and love to you and yours. ….gene

    #831586
    NickHassan
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    Hi Gene,

    In Lk 13.16 Jesus healed a woman who was bent double and said she had been bound by Satan in this way for 18 long years .

    What is your version?

    #831590
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Gene,

    Any kingdom divided against itself is laid waste, and a house divided against itself falls.

    If Satan is divided against himself, how will his kingdom stand?

    For you say that I cast out demons by Beelzebub. And if I, by Beelzebub, cast out demons, by whom do your sons cast them out?

     

    But you say Satan and his kingdom, and Beelzebub, do not exist.

    Whom do you serve?

    #831594
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Gene,

    All mankind is like grass.

    Weak and easily influenced by the god of this world.

     

    But he that is in you is greater than he that is in the world.

    #831595
    Ed J
    Participant

    NICK, show where i oppose the teachings of Jesus, please, show us where the “kingdom” of darknes” is Mentioned in scripture.

    Hi Gene,

    Col. 1:13 New Living Translation

    “For he has rescued us from the kingdom of darkness and transferred us into the Kingdom of his dear Son”

    #831598
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Edj….THE KING JAMES is the most accurate i believe, the LIVING BIBLE is beyond a doubt the worst, and the KJ does not say kingdom of darkness, it say the power of darkness.

    Col 1:13….who has delivered us from the power of darkness, and has translated us unto the kingdom of his dear son.

    All evil is considered darkness, just as good is considered light. And just as there is no end of goodness, there is no end to evil, they just go in opposite directions. God puts evil into a “bottomless pit” for a thousand years, at the return of Jesus, Then realeses it again at the end of the thousand year period, to again influence all the inhabitants of the earth. The LORD our God, uses evil to bring about his perposes in the earth.

    Satan is simply a medaphor for evil, God uses for his perposes, seening it was God who created it in the first place. God said he created evil.

    Isa 45:7…I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create “EVIL” : I the LORD do “All” these things.

    What part of what the LORD said you people don’t believe.

    Nick presents a different version, where some how this Satanic being created evil, kinda like DARKVADOR IN STAR WARS, WHO HAD HIS OWN KINGDOM OF EVIL THAT HE HIMSELF CREATED. It makes for a good movie but has little truth to it.

    Evil does exist, and so does Good, they come forth from “ONE” TREE,(that which brings forth from self) we are also like trees, that bring forth from ourselves, we bring good or evil into our own lives and are ourselves responsible for the results, God does not judge a satan demonic being for our sins he judges us for OUR SINS. Putting what evil we do off on a demonic being of some kind is a coup out, in my opinion.

    Peace and love to you and yours. ….gene

    #831599
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Nick….Did you miss the word (IF) I CAST OUT. Did that just fly over your head, Jesus was just using “their” false asumptions that he cast them out by a Satan, or a beelzeebub, he did not say he really did it that way now did he? Because he did by the finger of GOD, Not by any of those false teachings of those PAGAN JEWISH FABLES. It amazes me that you can’t see that.

    You say we are not of the truth and yet you can’t see that?

    Peace and love to you and yours. .. gene

    #831603
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Gene,

    “Satan is just a metaphor for evil”

    Did Jesus say this or is this just your idea?

    Are your ideas equal to the teachings of the anointed one?

    #831604
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Gene,

    ‘ If Satan is divided against HIMSELF how will HIS KINGDOM stand?’

     

    So you tell us that this means A METAPHOR has A KINGDOM?

    And this METAPHOR was thrown into prison for 1000 yrs?

     

    You do really believe you are greater than the teacher?

     

     

    #831611
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Gene,

    You say

    ‘ Just as there is no end to goodness there is no end to evil, they just go in opposite directions’

    What sort of philosophy is this?

    Are we free to add our own philosophical ideas to truth?

    #831622
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Nick….Two ways to live, good or evil, are they the same way or are they oppisit of each other? Do you have any idea why scripture says “the bottmless pit”. Why bottomless? If not meaning there is no end to it. Lets hear your idea of what that means, if you even have one, tell us?

    Peace and love to you and yours. …..gene

    #831625
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Gene,

    What has the bottomless pit to do with your addition of philosophy to the Word of God?

    #831629
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Nick…Then answer the question if you can. Show us where thats just a philosophy of mine. Let us here your so called scriptural understanding of it. Calling what i am saying a philosophy of mine to hid you ignorance, hardly makes you right. You haven’t a clue if God by his spirit has reavealed that unto me or not. Your opinions means nothing to me espically a man who believes all the things you do, like the seven spirits of God are seven angels, no scripture say that, now that is a philosophy of your, that everything evil is caused by satan going around jumping in and out of people, or people still alive after they die, in some neither world, still living, as if they did not really die, now thats just some of your “philosophical” garbage, in my opinion.

    Nick, why behold the splenter in your brothers eye and not see the beam in your own eye. Why not first work on removing the beam from you own eye?

    Peace and love to you and yours. ……gene

    #831632
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Gene,

    Your philosophical words are not found in scripture.

    If you deny they are from philosophy then they must be your own ideas.

    Why would the servants of the Lord be interested in following your own worldly ideas ?

    #831633
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Gene,

    Your claim that Satan is just a metaphor for evil opposes the words of Jesus Christ.

    It also opposes the words of the Spirit through the prophets and apostles.

     

    Does anything else matter more to the servants of God than faithfulness to the word?

    #831749
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Gene,

    Satan is a metaphor?

    Satan does not have a kingdom?

    Why do you deny the teachings of Jesus Christ?

    Are you stronger than the God Who inspired his teachings?

    Start again.

    #831753
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Gene,

    The Baha’i faith teaches that Satan is just a metaphor.

    They do not respect Jesus Christ as the anointed teacher appointed by God.

     

    #831754
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Gene,

    You say God put evil in a bottomless pit for 1000 years.

    But the scriptures written by the Spirit through men say,

    And he laid hold of the dragon, the serpent of old, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for 1000 years; and he threw him into the abyss, and shut it, and sealed it he over him, so that he could not deceive the nations any longer , until the 1000 years were completed;

    Your words oppose the teaching of the Spirit.

    #831773
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi,

    There is life, and there is eternal life.

    Zoe 2222 consistently refers to eternal life.

    Man is obsessed with natural life, not eternal life.

    Lift your eyes beyond the natural and see what is eternal.

    #831847
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    NICK….Do you even believe Jesus or not?, he called Peter Satan, am i making that up also?

    Please explain, if you can, In what way was Peter Satan, was it literally or metaphorically? And if that was applied as metaphor to him, couldn’t it apply to anyone doing evil?

    Satan is the very representation of evil itself. That is why “he’ metaphorically is placed into a “bottomless pit” why a bottomless pit?, because there is no end of “eviĺ”.

    You view Satan as a individual being, i view satan as a symbol of all evil. Go read the start of the book of revelations, does it not say and he signified it. (Signified, means symbolized) the book.

    Peace and love to you and yours. …..gene

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