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Quote (kejonn @ April 13 2008,00:47) Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 11 2008,23:12) Hi KJ,
It has happened.
Did you not hear the good news?
Rom10
18But I say, Have they not heard? Yes verily, their sound went into all the earth, and their words unto the ends of the world.
I heard it. I even thought at once it was “good news”. But then I started seeing what kind of dad Jesus supposedly had…then the news didn't seem as good anymore.
Hi KJ,
Despite your unwise judgements against God you have not found a more powerful ally and since you have rejected the advocate for men you will need one.HI Nick,
I think that you missed the point that kejohn has never made any unwise judgement against God.
On the contrary, he has taken a stand against the bible which makes blasphemous, degrading statements about the character of God.
God may actually like the fact that someone is sticking up for Him for a change.Tim
Quote (TimothyVI @ April 13 2008,08:41) HI Nick,
I think that you missed the point that kejohn has never made any unwise judgement against God.
On the contrary, he has taken a stand against the bible which makes blasphemous, degrading statements about the character of God.
God may actually like the fact that someone is sticking up for Him for a change.Tim
I think he will be deemed “unwise” simply because he is not exercising blind faith.Quote (kejonn @ April 13 2008,00:47) Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 11 2008,23:12) Hi KJ,
It has happened.
Did you not hear the good news?
Rom10
18But I say, Have they not heard? Yes verily, their sound went into all the earth, and their words unto the ends of the world.
I heard it. I even thought at once it was “good news”. But then I started seeing what kind of dad Jesus supposedly had…then the news didn't seem as good anymore.
Hi KJ:And what kind of dad did Jesus have? Although men have misunderstood him because of some events in the OT, Jesus has revealed His character to humanity through the life that he lived in obedience to God's Word.
Quote 1Jo 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, [even] in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life. Hi not3,
Doubt is deadly.Those who would tempt you to do so have nothing better than faith to offer.
They just want some company on their chosen empty path of life.Quote (942767 @ April 12 2008,16:46) Quote (kejonn @ April 13 2008,00:47) Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 11 2008,23:12) Hi KJ,
It has happened.
Did you not hear the good news?
Rom10
18But I say, Have they not heard? Yes verily, their sound went into all the earth, and their words unto the ends of the world.
I heard it. I even thought at once it was “good news”. But then I started seeing what kind of dad Jesus supposedly had…then the news didn't seem as good anymore.
Hi KJ:And what kind of dad did Jesus have? Although men have misunderstood him because of some events in the OT, Jesus has revealed His character to humanity through the life that he lived in obedience to God's Word.
Quote 1Jo 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, [even] in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
What's to misundertand? By the bible's own account, Yahweh killed over 2 million people. Many were women, children, and babies.Not the God I look forward to having a relationship with.
Quote (TimothyVI @ April 12 2008,15:41) HI Nick,
I think that you missed the point that kejohn has never made any unwise judgement against God.
On the contrary, he has taken a stand against the bible which makes blasphemous, degrading statements about the character of God.
God may actually like the fact that someone is sticking up for Him for a change.Tim
That's OK Tim. I already know Nick worships the bible. He equates God with the bible and can't see that it insults an almighty God to know that ancient Israelites said He killed so many, and that these same men made many sexist and racist rules in His name.Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 12 2008,16:47) Hi not3,
Doubt is deadly.Those who would tempt you to do so have nothing better than faith to offer.
They just want some company on their chosen empty path of life.
You forgot the word “blind”. Its “blind faith”.I don't want any company on my “lonely” walk. I have friends and family and I visit forums in my leisure time. Communication of this type keeps my mind active.
Quote (kejonn @ April 13 2008,10:14) Quote (942767 @ April 12 2008,16:46) Quote (kejonn @ April 13 2008,00:47) Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 11 2008,23:12) Hi KJ,
It has happened.
Did you not hear the good news?
Rom10
18But I say, Have they not heard? Yes verily, their sound went into all the earth, and their words unto the ends of the world.
I heard it. I even thought at once it was “good news”. But then I started seeing what kind of dad Jesus supposedly had…then the news didn't seem as good anymore.
Hi KJ:And what kind of dad did Jesus have? Although men have misunderstood him because of some events in the OT, Jesus has revealed His character to humanity through the life that he lived in obedience to God's Word.
Quote 1Jo 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, [even] in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
What's to misundertand? By the bible's own account, Yahweh killed over 2 million people. Many were women, children, and babies.Not the God I look forward to having a relationship with.
Killed or rendered judgment on the wicked?1 Samuel 15:3
Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.'So God rendered judgement on the wicked Children, Infants and animals?
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 13 2008,09:47) Hi not3,
Doubt is deadly.Those who would tempt you to do so have nothing better than faith to offer.
They just want some company on their chosen empty path of life.
You cannot even accept new better revelations from a returned messiah if you cannot doubt what scripture he tells you is wrong. After all he did that last time as you keep telling us. Doubt is promise. Some are ignorant of its value.Stuart
Quote (Cato @ April 13 2008,11:03) 1 Samuel 15:3
Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.'So God rendered judgement on the wicked Children, Infants and animals?
Hi Cato:Children are the responsibility of their parents. If the parents are wicked, their children will not be spared either.
Quote (Cato @ April 13 2008,11:03) 1 Samuel 15:3
Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.'So God rendered judgement on the wicked Children, Infants and animals?
94,Can you speak to this, please?
It's very disturbing to say the least, although I know the OT is filled with this sort of thing.
Oh, sorry, I see you just responded. Thanks.
It doesn't seem quite just, but then again, most of the killings seem like there could have been another way. Ironic how God tells us not to murder and then….
Quote (942767 @ April 13 2008,11:27) Quote (Cato @ April 13 2008,11:03) 1 Samuel 15:3
Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.'So God rendered judgement on the wicked Children, Infants and animals?
Hi Cato:Children are the responsibility of their parents. If the parents are wicked, their children will not be spared either.
So glad that rule doesn't apply now……think of all the children who would be wiped out. Ridiculous, if you really think about it.Quote (Not3in1 @ April 13 2008,11:32) Oh, sorry, I see you just responded. Thanks. It doesn't seem quite just, but then again, most of the killings seem like there could have been another way. Ironic how God tells us not to murder and then….
Hi Mandy:There will also be a day of judgment coming after the Lord comes for the church. God will also not spare then anything that belongs to the wicked then either.
Quote (942767 @ April 13 2008,11:35) Quote (Not3in1 @ April 13 2008,11:32) Oh, sorry, I see you just responded. Thanks. It doesn't seem quite just, but then again, most of the killings seem like there could have been another way. Ironic how God tells us not to murder and then….
Hi Mandy:There will also be a day of judgment coming after the Lord comes for the church. God will also not spare then anything that belongs to the wicked then either.
You mean more babies have to die?What if they were baptized as babies – does that count?
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 13 2008,11:44) Hi not3,
Count for what?
Magic is not faith.
Certainly their “wicked” parents think baptizing their babies counts for something. And I'm sure they would agree their actions were motivated by faith. Sometimes Nick, I wonder who you think you are to make some of these lofty comments.Is your brand of faith better?
Quote (Not3in1 @ April 13 2008,11:43) Quote (942767 @ April 13 2008,11:35) Quote (Not3in1 @ April 13 2008,11:32) Oh, sorry, I see you just responded. Thanks. It doesn't seem quite just, but then again, most of the killings seem like there could have been another way. Ironic how God tells us not to murder and then….
Hi Mandy:There will also be a day of judgment coming after the Lord comes for the church. God will also not spare then anything that belongs to the wicked then either.
You mean more babies have to die?What if they were baptized as babies – does that count?
Hi Mandy:Babies die every day. Death is a reality, but children of those who are saved will also be saved, but the children of the wicked will not be saved. However, it is the parents who are being judged.
The scripture states “He who believes and is baptized shall be saved”. Can an infant believe? A child is the responsibility of the parents. Children of parents who are saved are also saved as long as they are in the parents control or until they are old enough to exercise their faith on their own.
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