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It's rediculous to be labeled an anti-a lie
To call me an anti-trinitarian is like calling me anti-unicorn…
I believe in the almighty God YHWH, I believe in his Son Jesus Christ who is given all things IN creation.
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Go to youtube and search NDE (Near Death Experience) and type in jesus christ after…or type in heaven or hell.
This is one thing that re-affirms my position in christianity for there are ZERO NDE experiences where people see, Buddah, or Mohamed or anyone else…anytime anyone has had an NDE it's always been either Jesus or The Father himself waiting at the other end.
But one thing i'd like to point out, is that every last one of these people never claim Jesus is God after their experience, they label him God's Son…and Lord and Master…they never call him Almighty, or God…
There are times where God has even said to people…This is my son…
And you know what???
The Holy Spirit is never present.
These NDE's don't seem like trinitarians at all…
As much as these stories re-affirm my position in christianity, it also re-affirms my position in not believeing in a trinity.
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Here's a good one, I wept bitterly the first time I saw this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPabMyVvC9s&feature=related
Ian McCormack's Near Death Experience is also a good one, youtube that
I dunno know nick, go watch some of the videos.
Jesus reveals himself in a lot of the videos i've seen.
Most people start out in hell, and right when they are about to endure some crazy event, Jesus saves them and takes them to heaven and shows them a buncha wonderful things.What strikes me is how many people say they see flowers that sing praises…its like c'mon who makes that kind of stuff up. And why do so many people say the same things about the gardens in heaven.
Flimsy foundations?
When an Atheist for 40 years, dies…meets Jesus and God…comes back to life and now preaches the Gospel?
You call that flimsy foundation, I call that the power of God.
I guess moses parting the red sea is also a flimsy foundation.
And when a blind man see's after he's been prayed for in the name of Jesus…God isn't only found in The Bible Nick…he works in real life too.
I used to mind the labels a lot until I realized that folks need to categorize other folks. Otherwise, how do we know who and what we're dealing with?
I've wanted my id name “not3in1” to be changed for a long time now…… Not because I have embraced the Trinity doctrine again, but because I don't necessarily believe that it's wrong now either. Maybe I should change my name to “Wishywashy”. Or “Lukewarm” – that would certainly be poplular.
I have learned that nearly all belief systems can be justified by the bible. This forum has convinced me of that much.
So call me a Trinitarian, a Unitarian, an anti-Trinitarian or a Librarian for all I care. I love God and his people. I think that's all I'm required to do. If you don't believe me……ask Jesus!
Love,
MandyQuote (RokkaMan @ Oct. 16 2009,04:45) It's rediculous to be labeled an anti-a lie To call me an anti-trinitarian is like calling me anti-unicorn…
I believe in the almighty God YHWH, I believe in his Son Jesus Christ who is given all things IN creation.
———————————————————
Go to youtube and search NDE (Near Death Experience) and type in jesus christ after…or type in heaven or hell.
This is one thing that re-affirms my position in christianity for there are ZERO NDE experiences where people see, Buddah, or Mohamed or anyone else…anytime anyone has had an NDE it's always been either Jesus or The Father himself waiting at the other end.
But one thing i'd like to point out, is that every last one of these people never claim Jesus is God after their experience, they label him God's Son…and Lord and Master…they never call him Almighty, or God…
There are times where God has even said to people…This is my son…
And you know what???
The Holy Spirit is never present.
These NDE's don't seem like trinitarians at all…
As much as these stories re-affirm my position in christianity, it also re-affirms my position in not believeing in a trinity.
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Here's a good one, I wept bitterly the first time I saw this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPabMyVvC9s&feature=related
Ian McCormack's Near Death Experience is also a good one, youtube that
RokkaManWhere do you put your faith, youtube, or the bible?
Ps. 104:29; Eccl. 3:19,20; Ecl. 9:5; Ps. 6:5; Ps. 8:10-12; Ps. 115:17.
Georg
Quote (georg @ Oct. 16 2009,07:32) Quote (RokkaMan @ Oct. 16 2009,04:45) It's rediculous to be labeled an anti-a lie To call me an anti-trinitarian is like calling me anti-unicorn…
I believe in the almighty God YHWH, I believe in his Son Jesus Christ who is given all things IN creation.
———————————————————
Go to youtube and search NDE (Near Death Experience) and type in jesus christ after…or type in heaven or hell.
This is one thing that re-affirms my position in christianity for there are ZERO NDE experiences where people see, Buddah, or Mohamed or anyone else…anytime anyone has had an NDE it's always been either Jesus or The Father himself waiting at the other end.
But one thing i'd like to point out, is that every last one of these people never claim Jesus is God after their experience, they label him God's Son…and Lord and Master…they never call him Almighty, or God…
There are times where God has even said to people…This is my son…
And you know what???
The Holy Spirit is never present.
These NDE's don't seem like trinitarians at all…
As much as these stories re-affirm my position in christianity, it also re-affirms my position in not believeing in a trinity.
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Here's a good one, I wept bitterly the first time I saw this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPabMyVvC9s&feature=related
Ian McCormack's Near Death Experience is also a good one, youtube that
RokkaManWhere do you put your faith, youtube, or the bible?
Ps. 104:29; Eccl. 3:19,20; Ecl. 9:5; Ps. 6:5; Ps. 8:10-12; Ps. 115:17.
Georg
The funny thing is Rokkaman is agreeing with some of you now and you still are not accepting him.He has said that God is God and Jesus is Jesus and simply because he is confirming it with videos of near death experiences should we knock his point?
People have seen all sorts of things after dying some have even said they experienced a complete blackness that felt accepting to them.
I don't put my faith in youtube, I put it in Scripture, and people's personal experiences that coincide with The Bible.
If an atheist of 40 years converts to christianity through an NDE, i'm not going to say I don't believe him…
To do so proves why so many don't believe in christianity…you expect people to believe The Bible based on it's content, yet will not believe a person who had an NDE.
When you aren't even qualified to understand if either came from God.
It all has to be taken in faith. If you do not choose to follow that's fine…but I like using life's experiences for re-affirmation of my faith…It keeps me strong when I get tired of arguing with you guys all day about scripture we can't even agree on.
Quote (Not3in1 @ Oct. 16 2009,07:56) Rokka, Press on! You are an encouragement me.
Love,
Mandy
Thanks Not3in1,You too have inspired me with many things you've said…A lot of you have, but the true inspiration comes from God…he works through all of us…
And as long as we all love him and keep seeking him, we will all eventually see the truth.
When someone lies to you, over and over and over again…there comes a point where u begin to smell BS and you're not so easily deceived…
The trinity isn't even in the bible…The Idea is suggested but it's no where in the bible as a concrete teaching.
Humans can't understand God's being…That's like a 1 dimensional creature, trying to understand a 3 dimensional creature…it's impossible.
What will you say if God decides to introduce another being that truly does come from God…and another Testament is written will you begin to call him a Quadrinity?
Don't be so haste to define God entirely. Remeber there was a time when the OT and NT existed…and God was closer to us back than, than he is now as far as interacting with us.
Why wasn't the trinity a heaven implacation then?
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