Does god know the future?

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Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 30 2014,10:27)

Mike

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Searching for truth is commendable, Wm. But all I've done is to show you the scripture you were asking for – the one that proves it one way or the other. I've also tried to use human logic and reasoning to show you how odd it is to hear you and Pierre say that God “had a pretty good IDEA” that the Israelites would soon rebel against Him.

I will ask you one question ;how did God knew who he would kill or destroy in the desert (64000) and another place as well cant remember were

Go on; ignore my anwers, run and hide.
Pretend you have missed it.

wakeup.

January 30, 2014 at 3:12 am#368808

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Nu 14:11 The LORD said to Moses, “How long will these people treat me with contempt? How long will they refuse to believe in me, in spite of all the miraculous signs I have performed among them?
Nu 14:12 I will strike them down with a plague and destroy them, but I will make you into a nation greater and stronger than they.”
Nu 14:13 Moses said to the LORD, “Then the Egyptians will hear about it! By your power you brought these people up from among them.
Nu 14:14 And they will tell the inhabitants of this land about it. They have already heard that you, O LORD, are with these people and that you, O LORD, have been seen face to face

Jesus was not conceived of the line of Moses. Was God unaware of that? If so why did one of those in the NT speak of the curse on woman as speaking of the struggle between the serpent and the Son of man?

READ MORE CAREFULLY ,THE SCRIPTURE I QUOTE

Consider that God already knew that Christ would be conceived of Mary even as he spoke these words to Moses. He spoke as he did to proof Moses' heart.

January 30, 2014 at 3:13 am#368809

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Ge 6:5 The LORD saw how great man’s wickedness on the earth had become, and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil all the time.
Ge 6:6 The LORD was grieved that he had made man on the earth, and his heart was filled with pain.
Ge 6:7 So the LORD said, “I will wipe mankind, whom I have created, from the face of the earth—men and animals, and creatures that move along the ground, and birds of the air—for I am grieved that I have made them.

I think other translations are friendlier to your point of view than this one you chose. I believe it is the NIV you are using.

God being saddened by one of his creations does not mean he did not know that that creation would cause him pain at this or any other time. God could have ended the human race at that time but chose not to. Why did he chose to preserve 8 people?

THE PLAN OF GOD DID NOT CHANGE ,RIGHT FROM THE BEGINNING ,EVEN WITH MOSES ,CHRIST WAS THE PLAN

Yes.

January 30, 2014 at 4:32 am#368810

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God being saddened by one of his creations does not mean he did not know that that creation would cause him pain at this or any other time.

Agreed.

Surely God was saddened to see His only begotten Son go through torture, pain, and death too.

But that doesn't mean God didn't already know it was going to happen long before it did happen, right?

knowing is not foresee or foreknowledge

so on knowing I agree

Mark 13:23 But take ye heed: behold, I have
***foretold***
you all things.

Acts 3:24 Yea, and all the prophets from Samuel and those that follow after, as many as have spoken, have likewise
***foretold*** of these days.

Go on; twist those words for your own pleasure.
To satisfy your EGO.

wakeup.

foretelling what you know ;is not foreseen .nor foreknowledge

January 30, 2014 at 5:40 am#368813

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God being saddened by one of his creations does not mean he did not know that that creation would cause him pain at this or any other time.

Agreed.

Surely God was saddened to see His only begotten Son go through torture, pain, and death too.

But that doesn't mean God didn't already know it was going to happen long before it did happen, right?

knowing is not foresee or foreknowledge

so on knowing I agree

Mark 13:23 But take ye heed: behold, I have
***foretold***
you all things.

Acts 3:24 Yea, and all the prophets from Samuel and those that follow after, as many as have spoken, have likewise
***foretold*** of these days.

Go on; twist those words for your own pleasure.
To satisfy your EGO.

wakeup.

foretelling what you know ;is not foreseen .nor foreknowledge

Oh, Now you want to make adjustments to the dictionary;
for your pleasure.
If you like to do it to God's word;why not to any word.
I gues you go around with a black marker pen in your pocket.
Ready to blot out words you dont like.Your bible must be full of black blots.

wakeup.

January 30, 2014 at 2:50 pm#368825

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God being saddened by one of his creations does not mean he did not know that that creation would cause him pain at this or any other time.

Agreed.

Surely God was saddened to see His only begotten Son go through torture, pain, and death too.

But that doesn't mean God didn't already know it was going to happen long before it did happen, right?

knowing is not foresee or foreknowledge

so on knowing I agree

Mark 13:23 But take ye heed: behold, I have
***foretold***
you all things.

Acts 3:24 Yea, and all the prophets from Samuel and those that follow after, as many as have spoken, have likewise
***foretold*** of these days.

Go on; twist those words for your own pleasure.
To satisfy your EGO.

wakeup.

foretelling what you know ;is not foreseen .nor foreknowledge

wakeup.

Useless comment

January 30, 2014 at 3:04 pm#368826

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God being saddened by one of his creations does not mean he did not know that that creation would cause him pain at this or any other time.

Agreed.

Surely God was saddened to see His only begotten Son go through torture, pain, and death too.

But that doesn't mean God didn't already know it was going to happen long before it did happen, right?

knowing is not foresee or foreknowledge

so on knowing I agree

Mark 13:23 But take ye heed: behold, I have
***foretold***
you all things.

Acts 3:24 Yea, and all the prophets from Samuel and those that follow after, as many as have spoken, have likewise
***foretold*** of these days.

Go on; twist those words for your own pleasure.
To satisfy your EGO.

wakeup.

foretelling what you know ;is not foreseen .nor foreknowledge

wakeup.

Useless comment

Useless because its true.
All truth is useless, unles it is your truth.

wakeup.

February 1, 2014 at 9:39 pm#368976

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understand that God KNOWS FROM THE BEGINNING so why would he foresee or have foreknowledge ,

knowing means that he as knowledge of it all so HE DOES NOT NEED TO HAVE FOREKNOWLEDGE ;but we do because we do not know a thing so to speak

February 1, 2014 at 11:20 pm#368980

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God tells what he knows.

February 2, 2014 at 12:05 am#368986

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God tells what he knows.

YES, AND HE KNOWS IT ALL ,

February 2, 2014 at 12:08 am#368988

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God tells what he knows.

YES, AND HE KNOWS IT ALL ,

I agree, though he does not tell it all.

February 2, 2014 at 5:10 am#368993

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God tells what he knows.

YES, AND HE KNOWS IT ALL ,

I agree, though he does not tell it all.

right on ,we have to be thankful for what we he gives us

February 2, 2014 at 3:43 pm#369010

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God tells what he knows.

YES, AND HE KNOWS IT ALL ,

I agree, though he does not tell it all.

right on ,we have to be thankful for what we he gives us

God knows it all you said it yourself.
Therefore HE can tell what's to come.
He can tell the future.
So what is blocking you?

Isaiah 48:3 I have declared the
***former things*** ***from the beginning***;
and they went forth out of my mouth, and I shewed them; I did them suddenly,
***and they came to pass***.

Isaiah 48:5 I have even
***from the beginning declared it to thee***; ***before it
came to pass*** ***I shewed it thee***:

lest thou shouldest say, Mine idol hath done them, and my graven image, and my molten image, hath commanded them.

Now you will say that all that was added on.

wakeup.

February 2, 2014 at 6:47 pm#369034

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God tells what he knows.

YES, AND HE KNOWS IT ALL ,

I agree, though he does not tell it all.

right on ,we have to be thankful for what we he gives us

God knows it all you said it yourself.
Therefore HE can tell what's to come.
He can tell the future.
So what is blocking you?

Isaiah 48:3 I have declared the
***former things*** ***from the beginning***;
and they went forth out of my mouth, and I shewed them; I did them suddenly,
***and they came to pass***.

Isaiah 48:5 I have even
***from the beginning declared it to thee***; ***before it
came to pass*** ***I shewed it thee***:

lest thou shouldest say, Mine idol hath done them, and my graven image, and my molten image, hath commanded them.

Now you will say that all that was added on.

wakeup.

YOU STILL DO NOT UNDERSTAND ,OR YOU DO NOT WANT OR CANNOT UNDERSTAND TRUTH,

1) BECAUSE GOD KNOWS ALL HE DOES NOT FORESEES ANYTHING ;OR AS FOREKNOWLEDGE ; UNLESS YOU ARE TELLING ME THAT HIS KNOWLEDGE IS EQUAL TO THE FOREKNOWLEDGE WE HAVE , THEN I AGREE,

IF NOT THEN I DISAGREE ,

2) PROPHECIES ARE FOREKNOWLEDGE FROM GOD
S KNOWLEDGE TO MEN , AND GOD DOES NOT HAVE TO KNOW ALL THE DETAILED LIVE OF A MEN ,FOR SOME REASON A WICKED MAN GLOWS DIFFERENTLY THAN A RIGHTEOUS MEN

February 2, 2014 at 7:02 pm#369036

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Isaiah 48:5 I have even
***from the beginning declared it to thee***; ***before it
came to pass*** ***I shewed it thee***:

God has told the prophets before hand.
He knows the future before hand.
Before it came to pass.
God made things happen;therefore can tell whats coming.

wakeup.

February 2, 2014 at 9:44 pm#369048

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Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 03 2014,00:02)

Isaiah 48:5 I have even
***from the beginning declared it to thee***; ***before it
came to pass*** ***I shewed it thee***:

God has told the prophets before hand.
He knows the future before hand.
Before it came to pass.
God made things happen;therefore can tell whats coming.

wakeup.

IT SEEMS YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND THAT OLD ENGLISH
OF YOUR KJV.

GOD TELLS AHEAD BECAUSE HE KNOWS WHAT HE GOING TO DO AND SO SHARE IT WITH US ;

February 2, 2014 at 10:20 pm#369051

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Isaiah 48:5 I have even
***from the beginning declared it to thee***; ***before it
came to pass*** ***I shewed it thee***:

God has told the prophets before hand.
He knows the future before hand.
Before it came to pass.
God made things happen;therefore can tell whats coming.

wakeup.

IT SEEMS YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND THAT OLD ENGLISH
OF YOUR KJV.

GOD TELLS AHEAD BECAUSE HE KNOWS WHAT HE GOING TO DO AND SO SHARE IT WITH US ;

Is that all you can say everytime.
you dont undertsand.
that's all; with no corrections or anything.
Just you dont understand scripture.

I say you will not see because of your great pride.
you are a very hard headed proud, all knowing
son of a ——— .

man.

wakeup.

February 2, 2014 at 10:40 pm#369054

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Isaiah 48:5 I have even
***from the beginning declared it to thee***; ***before it
came to pass*** ***I shewed it thee***:

God has told the prophets before hand.
He knows the future before hand.
Before it came to pass.
God made things happen;therefore can tell whats coming.

wakeup.

IT SEEMS YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND THAT OLD ENGLISH
OF YOUR KJV.

GOD TELLS AHEAD BECAUSE HE KNOWS WHAT HE GOING TO DO AND SO SHARE IT WITH US ;

Is that all you can say everytime.
you dont undertsand.
that's all; with no corrections or anything.
Just you dont understand scripture.

I say you will not see because of your great pride.
you are a very hard headed proud, all knowing
son of a ——— .

man.

wakeup.

THIS IS ENOUGH TALK ON THIS ;YOU GO YOUR WAY I GO MINE

SO LONG

February 2, 2014 at 10:46 pm#369056

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Isaiah 48:5 I have even
***from the beginning declared it to thee***; ***before it
came to pass*** ***I shewed it thee***:

God has told the prophets before hand.
He knows the future before hand.
Before it came to pass.
God made things happen;therefore can tell whats coming.

wakeup.

IT SEEMS YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND THAT OLD ENGLISH
OF YOUR KJV.

GOD TELLS AHEAD BECAUSE HE KNOWS WHAT HE GOING TO DO AND SO SHARE IT WITH US ;

Is that all you can say everytime.
you dont undertsand.
that's all; with no corrections or anything.
Just you dont understand scripture.

I say you will not see because of your great pride.
you are a very hard headed proud, all knowing
son of a ——— .

man.

wakeup.

THIS IS ENOUGH TALK ON THIS ;YOU GO YOUR WAY I GO MINE

SO LONG

Yes, and I know where your way will lead you to.

wakeup.

February 2, 2014 at 11:11 pm#369061