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Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 10 2012,16:20) Quote (Stu @ Dec. 10 2012,15:47) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 10 2012,09:29) Quote (Stu @ Nov. 24 2012,21:30) I guess this is one dead debate. Would anyone like to speculate why t8 apparently didn't want to be involved, even though he started it? Stuart
Idon't know ifanyone else can evn join this debate otherwise I certainly would like to engage.What if one took the position that God does not exist which is reasonable since God Is the creator of existence meaning thet the only description would be to say that God is IMPOSSIBLE.
Crtainly we would all agree that Existence Exists, right?
Who would try to defend “God is impossible”?Stuart
Exactly
I think t8 got scared off because it became clear that he didn't know the conventions of debating, which exist for reasons of fairness, and he wasn't going to be able to define the terms in the moot he hoped to affirm.“God” is one such term that remains undefined. For me to affirm that god is impossible would require me to give a definition that no two religious people could agree on, then prove that such a thing is impossible when clearly it exists as different concepts inside the minds of deluded people all over the world.
Stuart
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I can defend My believe in God the same way that you defend your believe in your science of evolution,God the creator does not need men to defend him ,it does not matter what you think or do it will always be his way that will be done ,and to prove this he has made it in written words,and it stands ever sins,
On the other end science as changed his thinking an written history as it runs along ,
It is like a traveler man who make up his road map as he his traveling,and changes as the road ends,
Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 11 2012,18:35) It is like a traveler man who make up his road map as he his traveling,and changes as the road ends,
A much better idea than just sitting there the rest of your life and make apologies for the road ending.Tim
Quote (TimothyVI @ Dec. 11 2012,21:04) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 11 2012,18:35) It is like a traveler man who make up his road map as he his traveling,and changes as the road ends,
A much better idea than just sitting there the rest of your life and make apologies for the road ending.Tim
Tim…If we all exist, an spiders, snakes an donkeys also exist…then God exist's. because we're the evidence…:)
Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 11 2012,18:35) Stu
I can defend My believe in God the same way that you defend your believe in your science of evolution,God the creator does not need men to defend him ,it does not matter what you think or do it will always be his way that will be done ,and to prove this he has made it in written words,and it stands ever sins,
On the other end science as changed his thinking an written history as it runs along ,
It is like a traveler man who make up his road map as he his traveling,and changes as the road ends,
I don't feel the need to defend my belief in a scientific fact. It's not a matter of what I believe: I can't change that fact just by believing something different, just as you can't.On the other hand it is you making the extraordinary claim without extraordinary evidence in support, and certainly not unambiguous evidence.
Regarding the road analogy, I think it much more appropriate to think of it in terms of the roads leading to Rome. With science, all roads lead to Rome and the general trend is that most scientists are heading generally in that direction, perhaps some distance away but converging on the same point as the others. Indeed some get lost along the way, often because they refuse to accept the road signs that don't say “Rome” any more.
But contrast that with religious cults. The earliest polytheistic beliefs that led to Abramamism lie in the central Rome of this analogy, and the schisms that have led to 39,000 christian cults and many variations on islam and Judaism are like people who are travelling off in all directions, leaving their common ground and turning their backs on their fellow humans to wander away to obscurity.
Science converges, religions diverge.
Stuart
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