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  • #283646
    terraricca
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    Bod

    Your book is the book of your god and your god is the god of this world ,so it is Satan ,and Muhammad his is prophet and all the things you are quoting are action of worship to that god called Satan ,

    Satan just like MY GOD like to be worshiped exclusively so we are appart as fare that Satan is from MY GOD of truth

    #283692
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 08 2012,17:31)
    Bod

    Your book is the book of your god and your god is the god of this world ,so it is Satan ,and Muhammad his is prophet and all the things you are quoting are action of worship to that god called Satan ,

    Satan just like MY GOD like to be worshiped exclusively  so we are appart as fare that Satan is from MY GOD of truth


    Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of satan: feeble indeed is the cunning of satan.
    ( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #76)

    Mark 3:23
    And he called them unto him, and said unto them in parables, How can Satan cast out Satan?

    You don't read your Bible

    satan makes them promises, and creates in them false desires; but satan's promises are nothing but deception.
    ( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #120)

    satan's plan is (but) to excite enmity and hatred between you, with intoxicants and gambling, and hinder you from the remembrance of Allah, and from prayer: will ye not then abstain?
    ( سورة المائدة , Al-Maeda, Chapter #5, Verse #91)

    Luke 11:18
    If Satan also be divided against himself, how shall his kingdom stand? because ye say that I cast out devils through Beelzebub.

    Matthew 12:26
    And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?

    You don't believe your Bible nor do you read and comprehend. Jesus himself is telling you that the Quran saying Satan is an outcast itself is proof that it cannot be from Satan.

    But you see and say that you have not seen and you hear and say you do not obey

    #283700
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 09 2012,09:17)

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 08 2012,17:31)
    Bod

    Your book is the book of your god and your god is the god of this world ,so it is Satan ,and Muhammad his is prophet and all the things you are quoting are action of worship to that god called Satan ,

    Satan just like MY GOD like to be worshiped exclusively  so we are appart as fare that Satan is from MY GOD of truth


    Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of satan: feeble indeed is the cunning of satan.  
    (  سورة النساء  , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #76)

    Mark 3:23
    And he called them unto him, and said unto them in parables, How can Satan cast out Satan?

    You don't read your Bible

    satan makes them promises, and creates in them false desires; but satan's promises are nothing but deception.  
    (  سورة النساء  , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #120)

    satan's plan is (but) to excite enmity and hatred between you, with intoxicants and gambling, and hinder you from the remembrance of Allah, and from prayer: will ye not then abstain?  
    (  سورة المائدة  , Al-Maeda, Chapter #5, Verse #91)

    Luke 11:18
    If Satan also be divided against himself, how shall his kingdom stand? because ye say that I cast out devils through Beelzebub.

    Matthew 12:26
    And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?

    You don't believe your Bible nor do you read and comprehend. Jesus himself is telling you that the Quran saying Satan is an outcast itself is proof that it cannot be from Satan.

    But you see and say that you have not seen and you hear and say you do not obey


    bod

    there is only ONE kingdom of God and Christ and it is not Muslims that preach it

    so we wait and see,

    #283769
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 09 2012,04:02)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 09 2012,09:17)

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 08 2012,17:31)
    Bod

    Your book is the book of your god and your god is the god of this world ,so it is Satan ,and Muhammad his is prophet and all the things you are quoting are action of worship to that god called Satan ,

    Satan just like MY GOD like to be worshiped exclusively  so we are appart as fare that Satan is from MY GOD of truth


    Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of satan: feeble indeed is the cunning of satan.  
    (  سورة النساء  , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #76)

    Mark 3:23
    And he called them unto him, and said unto them in parables, How can Satan cast out Satan?

    You don't read your Bible

    satan makes them promises, and creates in them false desires; but satan's promises are nothing but deception.  
    (  سورة النساء  , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #120)

    satan's plan is (but) to excite enmity and hatred between you, with intoxicants and gambling, and hinder you from the remembrance of Allah, and from prayer: will ye not then abstain?  
    (  سورة المائدة  , Al-Maeda, Chapter #5, Verse #91)

    Luke 11:18
    If Satan also be divided against himself, how shall his kingdom stand? because ye say that I cast out devils through Beelzebub.

    Matthew 12:26
    And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?

    You don't believe your Bible nor do you read and comprehend. Jesus himself is telling you that the Quran saying Satan is an outcast itself is proof that it cannot be from Satan.

    But you see and say that you have not seen and you hear and say you do not obey


    bod

    there is only ONE kingdom of God and Christ and it is not Muslims that preach it

    so we wait and see,


    Muslims preach Christ and God so you are blind in your assesment it is the Muslim who confirm to the Jews that Christ Jesus was their Messiah although they do not believe it and reject Christ as Messiah. If Muhammad wanted to make friends he could have simply agreed with the Jews that Christ was not the Messiah or if he wanted to simply be friends with Christians he could have just said that Jesus was the son of God who died on the Cross but instead he only spoke what God revealed to him.

    as Paul said:

    Galatians 1:10
    For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.

    To be a servant of Christ is to direct people to God Almighty and not to simply worship Jesus which is what you do, you forsake your FIRST love and Jesus will have a problem with that.

    Revelation 2:4
    Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love.

    But then again maybe you have never loved God with ALL your Heart, Soul and Mind because you have spent most of your time devoted to Christ and not GOD ALMIGHTY, Would that be fair to say?

    If you say no go over all the posts you have written to me and see who is it that you truly worship I have been putting God first and you have been putting Christ first, isn't that true? Go look at the posts

    #283778
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 09 2012,15:21)

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 09 2012,04:02)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 09 2012,09:17)

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 08 2012,17:31)
    Bod

    Your book is the book of your god and your god is the god of this world ,so it is Satan ,and Muhammad his is prophet and all the things you are quoting are action of worship to that god called Satan ,

    Satan just like MY GOD like to be worshiped exclusively  so we are appart as fare that Satan is from MY GOD of truth


    Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of satan: feeble indeed is the cunning of satan.  
    (  سورة النساء  , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #76)

    Mark 3:23
    And he called them unto him, and said unto them in parables, How can Satan cast out Satan?

    You don't read your Bible

    satan makes them promises, and creates in them false desires; but satan's promises are nothing but deception.  
    (  سورة النساء  , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #120)

    satan's plan is (but) to excite enmity and hatred between you, with intoxicants and gambling, and hinder you from the remembrance of Allah, and from prayer: will ye not then abstain?  
    (  سورة المائدة  , Al-Maeda, Chapter #5, Verse #91)

    Luke 11:18
    If Satan also be divided against himself, how shall his kingdom stand? because ye say that I cast out devils through Beelzebub.

    Matthew 12:26
    And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?

    You don't believe your Bible nor do you read and comprehend. Jesus himself is telling you that the Quran saying Satan is an outcast itself is proof that it cannot be from Satan.

    But you see and say that you have not seen and you hear and say you do not obey


    bod

    there is only ONE kingdom of God and Christ and it is not Muslims that preach it

    so we wait and see,


    Muslims preach Christ and God so you are blind in your assesment it is the Muslim who confirm to the Jews that Christ Jesus was their Messiah although they do not believe it and reject Christ as Messiah. If Muhammad wanted to make friends he could have simply agreed with the Jews that Christ was not the Messiah or if he wanted to simply be friends with Christians he could have just said that Jesus was the son of God who died on the Cross but instead he only spoke what God revealed to him.

    as Paul said:

    Galatians 1:10
    For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.

    To be a servant of Christ is to direct people to God Almighty and not to simply worship Jesus which is what you do, you forsake your FIRST love and Jesus will have a problem with that.

    Revelation 2:4
    Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love.

    But then again maybe you have never loved God with ALL your Heart, Soul and Mind because you have spent most of your time devoted to Christ and not GOD ALMIGHTY, Would that be fair to say?

    If you say no go over all the posts you have written to me and see who is it that you truly worship I have been putting God first and you have been putting Christ first, isn't that true? Go look at the posts


    bod

    you are insulting my small intelligence that i have ,

    we will talk Koran nothing else

    #283822
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 09 2012,09:06)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 09 2012,15:21)

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 09 2012,04:02)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 09 2012,09:17)

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 08 2012,17:31)
    Bod

    Your book is the book of your god and your god is the god of this world ,so it is Satan ,and Muhammad his is prophet and all the things you are quoting are action of worship to that god called Satan ,

    Satan just like MY GOD like to be worshiped exclusively  so we are appart as fare that Satan is from MY GOD of truth


    Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of satan: feeble indeed is the cunning of satan.  
    (  سورة النساء  , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #76)

    Mark 3:23
    And he called them unto him, and said unto them in parables, How can Satan cast out Satan?

    You don't read your Bible

    satan makes them promises, and creates in them false desires; but satan's promises are nothing but deception.  
    (  سورة النساء  , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #120)

    satan's plan is (but) to excite enmity and hatred between you, with intoxicants and gambling, and hinder you from the remembrance of Allah, and from prayer: will ye not then abstain?  
    (  سورة المائدة  , Al-Maeda, Chapter #5, Verse #91)

    Luke 11:18
    If Satan also be divided against himself, how shall his kingdom stand? because ye say that I cast out devils through Beelzebub.

    Matthew 12:26
    And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?

    You don't believe your Bible nor do you read and comprehend. Jesus himself is telling you that the Quran saying Satan is an outcast itself is proof that it cannot be from Satan.

    But you see and say that you have not seen and you hear and say you do not obey


    bod

    there is only ONE kingdom of God and Christ and it is not Muslims that preach it

    so we wait and see,


    Muslims preach Christ and God so you are blind in your assesment it is the Muslim who confirm to the Jews that Christ Jesus was their Messiah although they do not believe it and reject Christ as Messiah. If Muhammad wanted to make friends he could have simply agreed with the Jews that Christ was not the Messiah or if he wanted to simply be friends with Christians he could have just said that Jesus was the son of God who died on the Cross but instead he only spoke what God revealed to him.

    as Paul said:

    Galatians 1:10
    For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.

    To be a servant of Christ is to direct people to God Almighty and not to simply worship Jesus which is what you do, you forsake your FIRST love and Jesus will have a problem with that.

    Revelation 2:4
    Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love.

    But then again maybe you have never loved God with ALL your Heart, Soul and Mind because you have spent most of your time devoted to Christ and not GOD ALMIGHTY, Would that be fair to say?

    If you say no go over all the posts you have written to me and see who is it that you truly worship I have been putting God first and you have been putting Christ first, isn't that true? Go look at the posts


    bod

    you are insulting my small intelligence that i have ,

    we will talk Koran nothing else


    Talking about either the Bible or Quran is the same to me, same message of truth. Talking the Quran with you will not help by itself because you don't have any idea what's written in the Quran.

    It's like ED he treats the Quran like an Atheist does the Bible you know pick up pieces here and there without any context or understanding and almost ZERO direct knowledge from personal study and then simply ridicules what a gross negligence! Don't be like that Pierre, Don't be like ED.

    Don't pretendt to be so special and ordained by God that you forsake reading and study for self ego boosting

    #283824
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 09 2012,02:17)
    Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of satan: feeble indeed is the cunning of satan.  
    (  سورة النساء  , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #76)


    Hi BD,

    Your 'false god'(al-Lah) wants others to fight for him; the true God (YHVH) fights for us.

    (2 Chron 16:9) For the eyes of YHVH run to and fro throughout the whole earth,
    to show himself strong in the behalf of them whose heart is perfect toward him.

    (Ex.14:13-14) Moses said unto the people, Fear ye not, stand still, and see the salvation
    of YHVH, which he will show to you to day: for the Egyptians whom ye have seen to day,
    ye shall see them again no more for ever. YHVH shall fight for you, and ye shall hold your peace.

    Turn back to the real GOD!
    B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
    עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)

    #283840
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 09 2012,12:52)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 09 2012,02:17)
    Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of satan: feeble indeed is the cunning of satan.  
    (  سورة النساء  , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #76)


    Hi BD,

    Your 'false god'(al-Lah) wants others to fight for him; the true God (YHVH) fights for us.

    (2 Chron 16:9) For the eyes of YHVH run to and fro throughout the whole earth,
    to show himself strong in the behalf of them whose heart is perfect toward him.

    (Ex.14:13-14) Moses said unto the people, Fear ye not, stand still, and see the salvation
    of YHVH, which he will show to you to day: for the Egyptians whom ye have seen to day,
    ye shall see them again no more for ever. YHVH shall fight for you, and ye shall hold your peace.

    Turn back to the real GOD!
    B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
    עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)


    ED

    Are you too simple to remember the killing of the Amalekites and many others? Are you too simple too remember the ordering of thousands of Israelites being killed because they didn't accept the covenant?

    Really it 's funny that you spent sooooo much time messing around divining numbers and misunderstanding the name of YHWH that it seems you didn't even take time to even slightly read the Bible,. If you had even slightly read the Bible you wouldn't make statements that a 5 year old that watched the 10 commandments on tv wouldn't make.

    #283844
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 09 2012,19:38)

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 09 2012,09:06)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 09 2012,15:21)

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 09 2012,04:02)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 09 2012,09:17)

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 08 2012,17:31)
    Bod

    Your book is the book of your god and your god is the god of this world ,so it is Satan ,and Muhammad his is prophet and all the things you are quoting are action of worship to that god called Satan ,

    Satan just like MY GOD like to be worshiped exclusively  so we are appart as fare that Satan is from MY GOD of truth


    Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of satan: feeble indeed is the cunning of satan.  
    (  سورة النساء  , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #76)

    Mark 3:23
    And he called them unto him, and said unto them in parables, How can Satan cast out Satan?

    You don't read your Bible

    satan makes them promises, and creates in them false desires; but satan's promises are nothing but deception.  
    (  سورة النساء  , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #120)

    satan's plan is (but) to excite enmity and hatred between you, with intoxicants and gambling, and hinder you from the remembrance of Allah, and from prayer: will ye not then abstain?  
    (  سورة المائدة  , Al-Maeda, Chapter #5, Verse #91)

    Luke 11:18
    If Satan also be divided against himself, how shall his kingdom stand? because ye say that I cast out devils through Beelzebub.

    Matthew 12:26
    And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?

    You don't believe your Bible nor do you read and comprehend. Jesus himself is telling you that the Quran saying Satan is an outcast itself is proof that it cannot be from Satan.

    But you see and say that you have not seen and you hear and say you do not obey


    bod

    there is only ONE kingdom of God and Christ and it is not Muslims that preach it

    so we wait and see,


    Muslims preach Christ and God so you are blind in your assesment it is the Muslim who confirm to the Jews that Christ Jesus was their Messiah although they do not believe it and reject Christ as Messiah. If Muhammad wanted to make friends he could have simply agreed with the Jews that Christ was not the Messiah or if he wanted to simply be friends with Christians he could have just said that Jesus was the son of God who died on the Cross but instead he only spoke what God revealed to him.

    as Paul said:

    Galatians 1:10
    For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.

    To be a servant of Christ is to direct people to God Almighty and not to simply worship Jesus which is what you do, you forsake your FIRST love and Jesus will have a problem with that.

    Revelation 2:4
    Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love.

    But then again maybe you have never loved God with ALL your Heart, Soul and Mind because you have spent most of your time devoted to Christ and not GOD ALMIGHTY, Would that be fair to say?

    If you say no go over all the posts you have written to me and see who is it that you truly worship I have been putting God first and you have been putting Christ first, isn't that true? Go look at the posts


    bod

    you are insulting my small intelligence that i have ,

    we will talk Koran nothing else


    Talking about either the Bible or Quran is the same to me, same message of truth. Talking the Quran with you will not help by itself because you don't have any idea what's written in the Quran.

    It's like ED he treats the Quran like an Atheist does the Bible you know pick up pieces here and there without any context or understanding and almost ZERO direct knowledge from personal study and then simply ridicules what a gross negligence! Don't be like that Pierre, Don't be like ED.

    Don't pretendt to be so special and ordained by God that you forsake reading and study for self ego boosting


    bod

    Quote
    Don't be like that Pierre, Don't be like ED.

    Don't pretendt to be so special and ordained by God that you forsake reading and study for self ego boosting

    first the Koran is not the scriptures and there ED is right ,

    the Koran is the book of a boosted man called Muhammad full of ego,a criminal,sociopath ,look at history .

    on the other hand Jesus Christ give up his live so we can benefit from it ,He humble him self ,did not write one book,

    preached the word of God ,to save men from this world .

    what is Muhammad offers ????? he was brutal to whom did not want him is this a man from God  witch one ??? not the God of love the father of Jesus Christ .

    #283848
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 09 2012,14:15)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 09 2012,19:38)

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 09 2012,09:06)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 09 2012,15:21)

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 09 2012,04:02)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 09 2012,09:17)

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 08 2012,17:31)
    Bod

    Your book is the book of your god and your god is the god of this world ,so it is Satan ,and Muhammad his is prophet and all the things you are quoting are action of worship to that god called Satan ,

    Satan just like MY GOD like to be worshiped exclusively  so we are appart as fare that Satan is from MY GOD of truth


    Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of satan: feeble indeed is the cunning of satan.  
    (  سورة النساء  , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #76)

    Mark 3:23
    And he called them unto him, and said unto them in parables, How can Satan cast out Satan?

    You don't read your Bible

    satan makes them promises, and creates in them false desires; but satan's promises are nothing but deception.  
    (  سورة النساء  , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #120)

    satan's plan is (but) to excite enmity and hatred between you, with intoxicants and gambling, and hinder you from the remembrance of Allah, and from prayer: will ye not then abstain?  
    (  سورة المائدة  , Al-Maeda, Chapter #5, Verse #91)

    Luke 11:18
    If Satan also be divided against himself, how shall his kingdom stand? because ye say that I cast out devils through Beelzebub.

    Matthew 12:26
    And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?

    You don't believe your Bible nor do you read and comprehend. Jesus himself is telling you that the Quran saying Satan is an outcast itself is proof that it cannot be from Satan.

    But you see and say that you have not seen and you hear and say you do not obey


    bod

    there is only ONE kingdom of God and Christ and it is not Muslims that preach it

    so we wait and see,


    Muslims preach Christ and God so you are blind in your assesment it is the Muslim who confirm to the Jews that Christ Jesus was their Messiah although they do not believe it and reject Christ as Messiah. If Muhammad wanted to make friends he could have simply agreed with the Jews that Christ was not the Messiah or if he wanted to simply be friends with Christians he could have just said that Jesus was the son of God who died on the Cross but instead he only spoke what God revealed to him.

    as Paul said:

    Galatians 1:10
    For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.

    To be a servant of Christ is to direct people to God Almighty and not to simply worship Jesus which is what you do, you forsake your FIRST love and Jesus will have a problem with that.

    Revelation 2:4
    Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love.

    But then again maybe you have never loved God with ALL your Heart, Soul and Mind because you have spent most of your time devoted to Christ and not GOD ALMIGHTY, Would that be fair to say?

    If you say no go over all the posts you have written to me and see who is it that you truly worship I have been putting God first and you have been putting Christ first, isn't that true? Go look at the posts


    bod

    you are insulting my small intelligence that i have ,

    we will talk Koran nothing else


    Talking about either the Bible or Quran is the same to me, same message of truth. Talking the Quran with you will not help by itself because you don't have any idea what's written in the Quran.

    It's like ED he treats the Quran like an Atheist does the Bible you know pick up pieces here and there without any context or understanding and almost ZERO direct knowledge from personal study and then simply ridicules what a gross negligence! Don't be like that Pierre, Don't be like ED.

    Don't pretendt to be so special and ordained by God that you forsake reading and study for self ego boosting


    bod

    Quote
    Don't be like that Pierre, Don't be like ED.

    Don't pretendt to be so special and ordained by God that you forsake reading and study for self ego boosting

    first the Koran is not the scriptures and there ED is right ,

    the Koran is the book of a boosted man called Muhammad full of ego,a criminal,sociopath ,look at history .

    on the other hand Jesus Christ give up his live so we can benefit from it ,He humble him self ,did not write one book,

    preached the word of God ,to save men from this world .

    what is Muhammad offers ????? he was brutal to whom did not want him is this a man from God  witch one ??? not the God of love the father of Jesus Christ .


    Yea, Pierre Muhammad was more like Moses look at History but the Bible predicted someone like Moses would come

    #283849
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Acts 7:37

    King James Version (KJV)

    37This is that Moses, which said unto the children of Israel, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear.

    How is Jesus like Moses, Moses and Muhammad are very similar they both were married having wives, they both were warriors that killed men, They both God their guidance from an angel, they both smashed Idols and made LAW and they both Authored writings revealed by God. They also received their revelations around 40 years of age and had a normal birth and death

    #283864
    TimothyVI
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 09 2012,14:15)
    quote=terraricca,Mar. 08 2012,17:31]

    what is Muhammad offers ????? he was brutal to whom did not want him is this a man from God  witch one ??? not the God of love the father of Jesus Christ .


    ” But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them—bring them here and kill them in front of me.”

    See how brutal Muhammad was.

    Oh wait, that was Jesus that said that.

    Tim

    #283865
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    TimothyV1………………Hi Tim long time no see, good to hear from you brother, hope all is going well with you and yours. Come and join us at the main Page TRUTH OR TRADITIONS. You alway did add a degree solidness and soundness to God word.

    peace and love to you and yours brother………………………………………….gene

    #283866
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Asana……………..Indeed Spirit has a form, a form of understanding , what what does that got to do with a BODY according to the definition of the word “BODY” this is Mike dilemma , he can get it straight in his head that a Spiritual Body is not the same as saying a SPIRIT BODY. he can't even get it straight that if Paul wanted to mean SPIRIT BODY he would have Just said spirit body instead of “SPIRITUAL BODY” he see no difference in the terms. But when ask to show scripture that say there exists SPIRIT BODIES he can't produce any. Mike is good at grabbing straws but produces nothing to back himself up from the scriptures. IMO and others i might add.

    peace and love to you and yours……………………………………………….gene

    #283871
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 09 2012,23:26)
    Asana……………..Indeed Spirit has a form, a form of understanding , what what does that got to do with a BODY according to the definition of the word “BODY” this is Mike dilemma , he can get it straight in his head that a Spiritual Body is not the same as saying a SPIRIT BODY. he can't even get it straight that if Paul wanted to mean SPIRIT BODY he would have Just said spirit body instead of “SPIRITUAL BODY” he see no difference in the terms.  But when ask to show scripture that say there exists SPIRIT BODIES he can't produce any. Mike is good at grabbing straws but produces nothing to back himself up from the scriptures. IMO and others i might add.

    peace and love to you and yours……………………………………………….gene


    What do you make of this?

    1 Samuel 28:11-14

    King James Version (KJV)

    11Then said the woman, Whom shall I bring up unto thee? And he said, Bring me up Samuel.

    12And when the woman saw Samuel, she cried with a loud voice: and the woman spake to Saul, saying, Why hast thou deceived me? for thou art Saul.

    13And the king said unto her, Be not afraid: for what sawest thou? And the woman said unto Saul, I saw gods ascending out of the earth.

    14And he said unto her, What form is he of? And she said, An old man cometh up; and he is covered with a mantle. And Saul perceived that it was Samuel, and he stooped with his face to the ground, and bowed himself.

    different translation

    Samuel 28:13-14

    New International Version (NIV)

    13 The king said to her, “Don’t be afraid. What do you see?”

    The woman said, “I see a ghostly figure[a] coming up out of the earth.”

    14 “What does he look like?” he asked.

    “An old man wearing a robe is coming up,” she said.

    Then Saul knew it was Samuel, and he bowed down and prostrated himself with his face to the ground.

    #283876
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 09 2012,23:04)

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 09 2012,14:15)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 09 2012,19:38)

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 09 2012,09:06)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 09 2012,15:21)

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 09 2012,04:02)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 09 2012,09:17)

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 08 2012,17:31)
    Bod

    Your book is the book of your god and your god is the god of this world ,so it is Satan ,and Muhammad his is prophet and all the things you are quoting are action of worship to that god called Satan ,

    Satan just like MY GOD like to be worshiped exclusively  so we are appart as fare that Satan is from MY GOD of truth


    Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of satan: feeble indeed is the cunning of satan.  
    (  سورة النساء  , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #76)

    Mark 3:23
    And he called them unto him, and said unto them in parables, How can Satan cast out Satan?

    You don't read your Bible

    satan makes them promises, and creates in them false desires; but satan's promises are nothing but deception.  
    (  سورة النساء  , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #120)

    satan's plan is (but) to excite enmity and hatred between you, with intoxicants and gambling, and hinder you from the remembrance of Allah, and from prayer: will ye not then abstain?  
    (  سورة المائدة  , Al-Maeda, Chapter #5, Verse #91)

    Luke 11:18
    If Satan also be divided against himself, how shall his kingdom stand? because ye say that I cast out devils through Beelzebub.

    Matthew 12:26
    And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?

    You don't believe your Bible nor do you read and comprehend. Jesus himself is telling you that the Quran saying Satan is an outcast itself is proof that it cannot be from Satan.

    But you see and say that you have not seen and you hear and say you do not obey


    bod

    there is only ONE kingdom of God and Christ and it is not Muslims that preach it

    so we wait and see,


    Muslims preach Christ and God so you are blind in your assesment it is the Muslim who confirm to the Jews that Christ Jesus was their Messiah although they do not believe it and reject Christ as Messiah. If Muhammad wanted to make friends he could have simply agreed with the Jews that Christ was not the Messiah or if he wanted to simply be friends with Christians he could have just said that Jesus was the son of God who died on the Cross but instead he only spoke what God revealed to him.

    as Paul said:

    Galatians 1:10
    For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.

    To be a servant of Christ is to direct people to God Almighty and not to simply worship Jesus which is what you do, you forsake your FIRST love and Jesus will have a problem with that.

    Revelation 2:4
    Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love.

    But then again maybe you have never loved God with ALL your Heart, Soul and Mind because you have spent most of your time devoted to Christ and not GOD ALMIGHTY, Would that be fair to say?

    If you say no go over all the posts you have written to me and see who is it that you truly worship I have been putting God first and you have been putting Christ first, isn't that true? Go look at the posts


    bod

    you are insulting my small intelligence that i have ,

    we will talk Koran nothing else


    Talking about either the Bible or Quran is the same to me, same message of truth. Talking the Quran with you will not help by itself because you don't have any idea what's written in the Quran.

    It's like ED he treats the Quran like an Atheist does the Bible you know pick up pieces here and there without any context or understanding and almost ZERO direct knowledge from personal study and then simply ridicules what a gross negligence! Don't be like that Pierre, Don't be like ED.

    Don't pretendt to be so special and ordained by God that you forsake reading and study for self ego boosting


    bod

    Quote
    Don't be like that Pierre, Don't be like ED.

    Don't pretendt to be so special and ordained by God that you forsake reading and study for self ego boosting

    first the Koran is not the scriptures and there ED is right ,

    the Koran is the book of a boosted man called Muhammad full of ego,a criminal,sociopath ,look at history .

    on the other hand Jesus Christ give up his live so we can benefit from it ,He humble him self ,did not write one book,

    preached the word of God ,to save men from this world .

    what is Muhammad offers ????? he was brutal to whom did not want him is this a man from God  witch one ??? not the God of love the father of Jesus Christ .


    Yea, Pierre Muhammad was more like Moses look at History but the Bible predicted someone like Moses would come


    bod

    Muhammad is a murderer,of women and children ,look the news nothing as changed sins he started,

    and he is not like Moses ,only in your corrupt head .

    Christ is the true prophet the scriptures are the true word of God not that collection of dreams of the Koran,

    I can see you are a solid Muslim deaf and blind to the true God and his word and refuse to accept his son for redemption ,

    a willing sinner you are

    #283928
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 10 2012,03:57)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 09 2012,23:04)

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 09 2012,14:15)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 09 2012,19:38)

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 09 2012,09:06)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 09 2012,15:21)

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 09 2012,04:02)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 09 2012,09:17)

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 08 2012,17:31)
    Bod

    Your book is the book of your god and your god is the god of this world ,so it is Satan ,and Muhammad his is prophet and all the things you are quoting are action of worship to that god called Satan ,

    Satan just like MY GOD like to be worshiped exclusively  so we are appart as fare that Satan is from MY GOD of truth


    Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of satan: feeble indeed is the cunning of satan.  
    (  سورة النساء  , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #76)

    Mark 3:23
    And he called them unto him, and said unto them in parables, How can Satan cast out Satan?

    You don't read your Bible

    satan makes them promises, and creates in them false desires; but satan's promises are nothing but deception.  
    (  سورة النساء  , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #120)

    satan's plan is (but) to excite enmity and hatred between you, with intoxicants and gambling, and hinder you from the remembrance of Allah, and from prayer: will ye not then abstain?  
    (  سورة المائدة  , Al-Maeda, Chapter #5, Verse #91)

    Luke 11:18
    If Satan also be divided against himself, how shall his kingdom stand? because ye say that I cast out devils through Beelzebub.

    Matthew 12:26
    And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?

    You don't believe your Bible nor do you read and comprehend. Jesus himself is telling you that the Quran saying Satan is an outcast itself is proof that it cannot be from Satan.

    But you see and say that you have not seen and you hear and say you do not obey


    bod

    there is only ONE kingdom of God and Christ and it is not Muslims that preach it

    so we wait and see,


    Muslims preach Christ and God so you are blind in your assesment it is the Muslim who confirm to the Jews that Christ Jesus was their Messiah although they do not believe it and reject Christ as Messiah. If Muhammad wanted to make friends he could have simply agreed with the Jews that Christ was not the Messiah or if he wanted to simply be friends with Christians he could have just said that Jesus was the son of God who died on the Cross but instead he only spoke what God revealed to him.

    as Paul said:

    Galatians 1:10
    For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.

    To be a servant of Christ is to direct people to God Almighty and not to simply worship Jesus which is what you do, you forsake your FIRST love and Jesus will have a problem with that.

    Revelation 2:4
    Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love.

    But then again maybe you have never loved God with ALL your Heart, Soul and Mind because you have spent most of your time devoted to Christ and not GOD ALMIGHTY, Would that be fair to say?

    If you say no go over all the posts you have written to me and see who is it that you truly worship I have been putting God first and you have been putting Christ first, isn't that true? Go look at the posts


    bod

    you are insulting my small intelligence that i have ,

    we will talk Koran nothing else


    Talking about either the Bible or Quran is the same to me, same message of truth. Talking the Quran with you will not help by itself because you don't have any idea what's written in the Quran.

    It's like ED he treats the Quran like an Atheist does the Bible you know pick up pieces here and there without any context or understanding and almost ZERO direct knowledge from personal study and then simply ridicules what a gross negligence! Don't be like that Pierre, Don't be like ED.

    Don't pretendt to be so special and ordained by God that you forsake reading and study for self ego boosting


    bod

    Quote
    Don't be like that Pierre, Don't be like ED.

    Don't pretendt to be so special and ordained by God that you forsake reading and study for self ego boosting

    first the Koran is not the scriptures and there ED is right ,

    the Koran is the book of a boosted man called Muhammad full of ego,a criminal,sociopath ,look at history .

    on the other hand Jesus Christ give up his live so we can benefit from it ,He humble him self ,did not write one book,

    preached the word of God ,to save men from this world .

    what is Muhammad offers ????? he was brutal to whom did not want him is this a man from God  witch one ??? not the God of love the father of Jesus Christ .


    Yea, Pierre Muhammad was more like Moses look at History but the Bible predicted someone like Moses would come


    bod

    Muhammad is a murderer,of women and children ,look the news nothing as changed sins he started,

    and he is not like Moses ,only in your corrupt head .

    Christ is the true prophet the scriptures ar
    e the true word of God not that collection of dreams of the Koran,

    I can see you are a solid Muslim deaf and blind to the true God and his word and refuse to accept his son for redemption ,

    a willing sinner you are


    You say things about Muhammad for no reason or proof and I understand and accept that, but your Bible does tell you of Moses and other prophets and servants of God killing women and children even God himself judged the world during the flood and such places such sodom and gomorah do you not think there were woman and children among them?

    Whan God oredered that the Amelekites be killed do you think that women were not killed in-fact they were told to kill every woman who had already slept with a man, when are you going to accept GOD and stop trying to create your own version of God.

    Answer: Didn't God directly ALLOW Satan to kill most all of Job's family, destroy much of his property and even torture Job himself? Yes or No?

    #283946
    terraricca
    Participant

    bod

    Quote
    Answer: Didn't God directly ALLOW Satan to kill most all of Job's family, destroy much of his property and even torture Job himself? Yes or No?

    you are not JOB

    Muhammad was not JOB

    and we are not GOD the life giver

    #283951
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 10 2012,14:53)
    bod

    Quote
    Answer: Didn't God directly ALLOW Satan to kill most all of Job's family, destroy much of his property and even torture Job himself? Yes or No?

    you are not JOB

    Muhammad was not JOB

    and we are not GOD the life giver


    Hi Pierre,

    BD makes a weak argument, that because satan was allowed to torture Job,
    that somehow justifies muslims torturing Christians AND Jews into submission?
    BD, you should drop the 'book of fraud', it is really reeking havoc on your mind.

    B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
    עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)

    #283953
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 10 2012,14:53)
    bod

    Quote
    Answer: Didn't God directly ALLOW Satan to kill most all of Job's family, destroy much of his property and even torture Job himself? Yes or No?

    you are not JOB

    Muhammad was not JOB

    and we are not GOD the life giver


    I don't understand why you could not answer the question. It was a yes or no question so even if you selected yes or no with an explanation it would do but you didn't even try to answer because you are afraid to know God

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