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Hi E,
I have created a new thread for your thoughts. You saidQuestion: “What is ultra-dispensationalism?”
Answer: In order to understand what ultra-dispensationalism is (also known as hyper-dispensationalism) let’s first begin by defining what the word dispensationalism means. The word dispensation means stewardship or administration and dispensationalism is simply a system of biblical interpretation that recognizes a distinction between the Church (i.e. the body of Christ) and Israel. Dispensationalism carries with it the idea that throughout the history of redemption God has given man specific revelation and commands and that man is tested with respect to his obedience to God’s commands or revelation. Therefore dispensations are different administrations in the eternal outworking of God’s purpose and plan. However, it is very important to realize normal dispensationalism acknowledges the fact that the way of salvation—by grace through faith—is the same in every dispensation. Generally many dispensationalists will recognize seven dispensations: Innocence (Genesis 1:1 – 3:7), Conscience (Genesis 3:8 – 8:22), Human Government (Genesis 9:1 – 11:32), Promise (Genesis 12:1 – Exodus 19:25), Law (Exodus 20:1 – Acts 2:4), Grace (Acts 2:4 – Revelation 20:3), Millennial Kingdom (Revelation 20:4 – 20:6). Again, these dispensations are not ways of salvation, but manners in which God relates to man.
One of the inherent dangers of dispensationalism is that it can become easy to overly divide the Bible and see divisions and discontinuity where there shouldn’t be any. This is exactly what the ultra-dispensationalist does. Therefore ultra or hyper dispensationalism would be an extreme form of dispensationalism that takes the basic tenants of dispensationalism to the very extreme resulting in unbiblical and often heretical teaching and doctrine. Some of the other names of this movement known as Hyper or Ultra-Dispensationalism are: Mid-Acts Dispensationalists, Acts 9 Dispensationalists, Acts 13 Dispensationalism, or Acts 28 Dispensationalism.
Instead of recognizing that the Church began in Acts 2 on the Day of Pentecost when the disciples received the promised Holy Spirit the ultra-dispensationalist would insert another dispensation or division into the Bible and would hold that the Church did not begin till later after Paul’s conversion. The three most common ultra-dispensationalist views see the church beginning in Acts 9, Acts 13 or Acts 28. Some ultra-dispensationalists place the beginning of the church with Paul’s conversion others like one of the first ultra-dispensationalists, Ethelbert W. Bulinger place the beginning of the church even later with Paul’s imprisonment in Rome. In doing so they see the church in Acts as being a separate “Hebrew or Jewish Church” than the “mystery” church to which Paul wrote his prison epistles. They believe that the books of Peter, James, Jude, Hebrews and the epistles of John are all addressed to the Hebrew Church, which is different from the “body of Christ.” This Jewish Church, which is built on Kingdom promises, will be reestablished during the millennium and will worship at the rebuilt Temple with atoning sacrifices.
However the greatest problem with Ultra-dispensationalism is not when they believe the church began but with the many other errors that come from their approach to Scripture. For example at the heart of most forms of ultra-dispensationalism is the belief that Paul preached a different gospel than what the other Apostles taught. Paul’s prison epistles only apply directly to the “body of Christ” or Gentile church, the sacraments of Baptism and the Lord’s Supper are relegated to the old dispensation and are not to be practiced by the church today. In reality what ultra-dispensationalists do is wrongly divide the Word of God and end up chewing the Bible up and splitting it into little pieces.
Other heresies that are common to some types of ultra-dispensationalist include such things as soul sleep and annihilationism. Still others proclaim a brand of universalism that grants salvation even to Satan himself. Without a doubt whatever name you want to call it ultra-dispensationalism is a dangerous error that almost always leads to other even worse errors and often outright heretical teachings.
H. A Ironside, a strong dispensationalist himself wrote a very good booklet outlining some of the dangers of ultra-dispensationalism and in it says that he has “no hesitancy in saying that its fruits are evil. It has produced a tremendous crop of heresies throughout the length and breadth of this and other lands; it has divided Christians and wrecked churches and assemblies without number; it has lifted up its votaries in intellectual and spiritual pride to an appalling extent, so that they look with supreme contempt upon Christians who do not accept their peculiar views; and in most instances where it has been long tolerated, it has absolutely throttled Gospel effort at home and sown discord on missionary fields abroad. So true are these things of this system that I have no hesitancy in saying it is an absolutely Satanic perversion of the truth.”
thanks Nick…. but I posted the article in the thread I did because it describes chosenone's position so well, a position he ably described in that thread…. I have known about hyper dispensationalists for a long time, but was unaware of the strains that taught universalism, so that was interesting to see and learn about…. so I just posted the article (from http://www.gotquestions.org/ultra-dispensationalism.html btw… I meant to include the url earlier but failed to) so as to help others who may have been unaware of the group of persons who radically divide the scriptures such that very little of the Scriptures are “for” us, ie hyper dispensationalists say that only Paul's writings are for the mystery church or the church of today that is under grace…. anyways…. knowing that this brand of theology is called ultra or hyper dispensationalism may help others to do further research on the net so that they may be better informed and wary… at any rate, this is your site and you may split threads as you see fit of course…. perhaps you could include a url pointing back to the thread where chosenone articulates his position…?
blessings,
Ken
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