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Quote So, you don't believe that his disbelief is a problem? what about the disbelief that you have, should you just be pushed aside called a disease, sickness..a better word for you may be unclean, like you choose to do with stuart. what does that prove, what does it solve. to know your weakness is a strength.
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I guess I can understand why you feel that way, it most likely is linked to the fact that you think God became Accursed and took on the nature of sin Himself. If you were right I would agree with you too but the fact that your belief is so backward and evil as well as unscriptural I would have to protest and by the way I was raised a Christian.quess again……
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I was not raised as a Christian with the belief that God commited Suicide though. You don't believe Jesus when he says he was sent by God. You don't believe Jesus when he says it was not his words he was speaking, you think God accursed so I could see why you feel the way you do.guess again……..
that is two quesses……..
should we consider this a guessing game now, maybe your a seer:
how much do i weigh? this should be good i do not even know how much i weigh, tall or short, eye/hair color, toe polish color, what stock i would like to invest in, where i would like to travel to, what do i pray for, who do i pray for, who do i pray too.
let me know, due to you haven't got any right so far.
kol tuv
Quote (princess of the king @ Feb. 09 2010,14:32) Quote (Stu @ Feb. 08 2010,17:48) Quote (princess of the king @ Feb. 08 2010,04:08) have you ever at anytime thought there to be a creator, a god of some sort. anything?
No, I never have. From childhood I wondered about the biological complexity in the world but I soon learned that science answered just about every question I had, and no religion answered anything: their answers weren't answers and the questions they claimed to answer were idiotic ones.I still think they are.
Thank you for asking!
Stuart
stuart,the class where you had to dissect a frog i couldn't bring my self to it, big nada for that assignment, lo and behold, i do know to dress and fillet a fish now.
my son loves to fish, his last trip to erie with his grandfather, he caught a rainbow trout in water that was tempered for walleye, i have told him though when he goes professional, i would like to have the color of his boat black, due to it will match anything i wear.
i have been one to keep my feet on the ground, i do enjoy the wonders of the world though, never been one to split atoms, so to speak.
we see things the same, just differently, if that makes any sense to you.
take care of yourself stuart
Well I am with you there. The frog dissection was not for me, and that was probably a reason for not doing biology as a school subject past the age of 15 years. Not that it stopped me from studying it for myself anyway.It is the spice of life that people view the world from different angles. I really only have a problem when one person suggests another is wrong not to view the world from his or her particular point of view when there is no evidence to think that person's fantasy story is more likely to be real than anyone else's fantasy story.
Of course none of this would apply to royalty who, as I'm sure you find, can do what they jolly well please!
Stuart
Quote (JustAskin @ Feb. 09 2010,00:19) Can I ask? I know this is a debating platform and everyone is free to ask what they like but: Of what benefit is it to know if or not Man walked with dinosaurs in as Scriptural forum. Is this not drawing the eye and mind away from that which should be in focus (God, Christ and ultimate Salvation)?
Anyway, my peneth-worth:
The atmostphere at the time of the Dinasaurs would not have sustained man and many of the domestic animals required by were not around.It was only after the demise of the dinasaurs that these creatures were able to exist.
In Scotland (Great Britain) they still believe that there is a dinasaur in the one of the lakes!! Each year thousands of tourist flock there to see if they can see it. On guy has spent his ENTIRE adult life camped out on the lakeside hoping to be the 'first' to get catagorical proof of it's existance – so far to no avail (I wonder why?)!!!
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Hi JA!I agree.
Speaking of the Dinosaur in the lake, Did you hear about this one
Quote (JustAskin @ Feb. 09 2010,00:19) Can I ask? I know this is a debating platform and everyone is free to ask what they like but: Of what benefit is it to know if or not Man walked with dinosaurs in as Scriptural forum. Is this not drawing the eye and mind away from that which should be in focus (God, Christ and ultimate Salvation)?
Anyway, my peneth-worth:
The atmostphere at the time of the Dinasaurs would not have sustained man and many of the domestic animals required by were not around.It was only after the demise of the dinasaurs that these creatures were able to exist.
In Scotland (Great Britain) they still believe that there is a dinasaur in the one of the lakes!! Each year thousands of tourist flock there to see if they can see it. On guy has spent his ENTIRE adult life camped out on the lakeside hoping to be the 'first' to get catagorical proof of it's existance – so far to no avail (I wonder why?)!!!
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JAThe atmosphere at the time of the dinosaurs was virtually the same as it is today. You are right that there were no domestic animals but domestication is the human act of selective breeding: before the agricultural revolution humans would have been exploiting the non-domestic versions of them.
It is true that the demise of the dinosaurs allowed the diversification of mammals. At the time of that mass extinction the ancestor species of humans was a bit like a modern shrew.
Stuart
Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 08 2010,15:29) the fact that your belief is so backward and evil .
Bod- Apologise to Princess of the King for using these words. Please.Quote (karmarie @ Feb. 10 2010,15:23) Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 08 2010,15:29) the fact that your belief is so backward and evil .
Bod- Apologise to Princess of the King for using these words. Please.
Of course I wouldn't lie to her and apologize did she not admitQuote we see things the same, just differently, if that makes any sense to you. Kissing up to atheists is putting yourself in enmity against God.
Should I please the atheists or God?
There is nothing wrong with admonishing someone who is clearly in error.
Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 10 2010,17:39) Quote (karmarie @ Feb. 10 2010,15:23) Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 08 2010,15:29) the fact that your belief is so backward and evil .
Bod- Apologise to Princess of the King for using these words. Please.
Of course I wouldn't lie to her and apologize did she not admitQuote we see things the same, just differently, if that makes any sense to you. Kissing up to atheists is putting yourself in enmity against God.
Should I please the atheists or God?
There is nothing wrong with admonishing someone who is clearly in error.
Princess of the King cares about Stuart. Theres nothing wrong with that; thats a good thingJesus came for the lost; and told us to do the same.
She is obeying God. She is showing love of neighbour IMO.
Leave her alone.Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 10 2010,17:39) Should I please the atheists or God?
As one of those atheists, I do not require you to please me, but I do have the distinct advantage of actually existing, making me a more appropriate target of approbation, if you are looking for one.Stuart
Quote (Stu @ Feb. 10 2010,21:23) Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 10 2010,17:39) Should I please the atheists or God?
As one of those atheists, I do not require you to please me, but I do have the distinct advantage of actually existing, making me a more appropriate target of approbation, if you are looking for one.Stuart
stuart,this is what concerns me, if you evolve into something else, then you would no longer exist as i know you now.
Quote (princess of the king @ Feb. 10 2010,23:13) Quote (Stu @ Feb. 10 2010,21:23) Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 10 2010,17:39) Should I please the atheists or God?
As one of those atheists, I do not require you to please me, but I do have the distinct advantage of actually existing, making me a more appropriate target of approbation, if you are looking for one.Stuart
stuart,this is what concerns me, if you evolve into something else, then you would no longer exist as i know you now.
Why do you ignore his contempt for God?Quote (karmarie @ Feb. 10 2010,20:08) Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 10 2010,17:39) Quote (karmarie @ Feb. 10 2010,15:23) Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 08 2010,15:29) the fact that your belief is so backward and evil .
Bod- Apologise to Princess of the King for using these words. Please.
Of course I wouldn't lie to her and apologize did she not admitQuote we see things the same, just differently, if that makes any sense to you. Kissing up to atheists is putting yourself in enmity against God.
Should I please the atheists or God?
There is nothing wrong with admonishing someone who is clearly in error.
Princess of the King cares about Stuart. Theres nothing wrong with that; thats a good thingJesus came for the lost; and told us to do the same.
She is obeying God. She is showing love of neighbour IMO.
Leave her alone.
Jesus came for the lost “sheep” of Israel. These were followers of God.Jesus did not come for the wolves.
Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 11 2010,14:27) Quote (karmarie @ Feb. 10 2010,20:08) Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 10 2010,17:39) Quote (karmarie @ Feb. 10 2010,15:23) Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 08 2010,15:29) the fact that your belief is so backward and evil .
Bod- Apologise to Princess of the King for using these words. Please.
Of course I wouldn't lie to her and apologize did she not admitQuote we see things the same, just differently, if that makes any sense to you. Kissing up to atheists is putting yourself in enmity against God.
Should I please the atheists or God?
There is nothing wrong with admonishing someone who is clearly in error.
Princess of the King cares about Stuart. Theres nothing wrong with that; thats a good thingJesus came for the lost; and told us to do the same.
She is obeying God. She is showing love of neighbour IMO.
Leave her alone.
Jesus came for the lost “sheep” of Israel. These were followers of God.Jesus did not come for the wolves.
But its scary Bod. I suppose iv been too nice myself. Avoidance really. So I suppose I need to be more honest. And join in a bit more?Quote (karmarie @ Feb. 11 2010,15:00) Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 11 2010,14:27) Quote (karmarie @ Feb. 10 2010,20:08) Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 10 2010,17:39) Quote (karmarie @ Feb. 10 2010,15:23) Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 08 2010,15:29) the fact that your belief is so backward and evil .
Bod- Apologise to Princess of the King for using these words. Please.
Of course I wouldn't lie to her and apologize did she not admitQuote we see things the same, just differently, if that makes any sense to you. Kissing up to atheists is putting yourself in enmity against God.
Should I please the atheists or God?
There is nothing wrong with admonishing someone who is clearly in error.
Princess of the King cares about Stuart. Theres nothing wrong with that; thats a good thingJesus came for the lost; and told us to do the same.
She is obeying God. She is showing love of neighbour IMO.
Leave her alone.
Jesus came for the lost “sheep” of Israel. These were followers of God.Jesus did not come for the wolves.
But its scary Bod. I suppose iv been too nice myself. Avoidance really. So I suppose I need to be more honest. And join in a bit more?
Exactly, and guess what those who you are trying to reach will appreciate you more being honest to them.Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 11 2010,14:27) Quote (karmarie @ Feb. 10 2010,20:08) Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 10 2010,17:39) Quote (karmarie @ Feb. 10 2010,15:23) Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 08 2010,15:29) the fact that your belief is so backward and evil .
Bod- Apologise to Princess of the King for using these words. Please.
Of course I wouldn't lie to her and apologize did she not admitQuote we see things the same, just differently, if that makes any sense to you. Kissing up to atheists is putting yourself in enmity against God.
Should I please the atheists or God?
There is nothing wrong with admonishing someone who is clearly in error.
Princess of the King cares about Stuart. Theres nothing wrong with that; thats a good thingJesus came for the lost; and told us to do the same.
She is obeying God. She is showing love of neighbour IMO.
Leave her alone.
Jesus came for the lost “sheep” of Israel. These were followers of God.Jesus did not come for the wolves.
I think you might have completely misunderstood christian mythology there.Stuart
Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 11 2010,14:25) Quote (princess of the king @ Feb. 10 2010,23:13) Quote (Stu @ Feb. 10 2010,21:23) Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 10 2010,17:39) Should I please the atheists or God?
As one of those atheists, I do not require you to please me, but I do have the distinct advantage of actually existing, making me a more appropriate target of approbation, if you are looking for one.Stuart
stuart,this is what concerns me, if you evolve into something else, then you would no longer exist as i know you now.
Why do you ignore his contempt for God?
Why would I have contempt for something that does not exist?It is only contempt for the god concept.
It is certainly contemptible!
Stuart
Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 11 2010,15:14) Exactly, and guess what those who you are trying to reach will appreciate you more being honest to them.
ohh-kay?so you mean I have to get into conversations – about batman and superman and all kinds of strange things like that? – I do enough of that with my little kids? -Seriously. (iv seen the conversations going on!)
Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 10 2010,17:39) Quote (karmarie @ Feb. 10 2010,15:23) Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 08 2010,15:29) the fact that your belief is so backward and evil .
Bod- Apologise to Princess of the King for using these words. Please.
Of course I wouldn't lie to her and apologize did she not admitQuote we see things the same, just differently, if that makes any sense to you. Kissing up to atheists is putting yourself in enmity against God.
Should I please the atheists or God?
Quote There is nothing wrong with admonishing someone who is clearly in error. bd, you have left many questions unanswered when asked, for instance you trying to prove the legal age of a child, in regards to your muhammad.
see bd, one thing you do not take into context at any time is that i do not see or believe as you do, i know deep in my heart that a woman is just as deserving as a man, even women in your belief are now understanding the same, as they have stated 'do they believe in a god that is lower'.
so what is proper for a man is also for a women, now if you were to hear that a adult female took upon a nine year old boy for her husband, and had sexual relationship with him you would call this an abomination. due to the shoe is on the other foot for use of a better term.
how i believe, a women can do the same as a man in life, we may not do it the same, it still can be done. so your male domination attitude is of no use to me, when you can place all things in a spiritual sense then come back and let me know the errors of my ways.
you however have not learnt unconditional love have you, i know who the adversary is.
you try to match wits with stuart and kejonn in regards to what they believe, without understanding they have studied just as you have with the koran.
if anyone has any foundation to stand on in regards to stuart and kejonn it is t8 (the daffodil) hands down.
being unkind, rude, selfish, mean spirited towards others is putting yourself between Father and his chosen.
and bd, just for the record, i have never believed anything you have written anyhow, so i would not even care if you were lying or not.
while you trying to convert others to your belief, i will continue to live as i live, learn as i am taught and be still and know that He is God, the Amighty creator of all.
your words change nothing.
Quote (Stu @ Feb. 11 2010,19:37) Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 11 2010,14:25) Quote (princess of the king @ Feb. 10 2010,23:13) Quote (Stu @ Feb. 10 2010,21:23) Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 10 2010,17:39) Should I please the atheists or God?
As one of those atheists, I do not require you to please me, but I do have the distinct advantage of actually existing, making me a more appropriate target of approbation, if you are looking for one.Stuart
stuart,this is what concerns me, if you evolve into something else, then you would no longer exist as i know you now.
Why do you ignore his contempt for God?
Why would I have contempt for something that does not exist?It is only contempt for the god concept.
It is certainly contemptible!
Stuart
stuart,you know i was thinking about something today, just going to throw it out there, since you know i am not a science geek, could it be possible that all living things were created from man and evolved to what they are today?
is it possible?
Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 11 2010,14:27) Jesus came for the lost “sheep” of Israel. These were followers of God. Jesus did not come for the wolves.
Ok I seeked advice on how to help an Athiest and Apparently (according to my source) debating with an athiest is a complete waste of time!It will go on and on and on and on and on. And get nowhere.
He would say to an Athiest who wants to debate: (briefly)
If you want to spend $5000 on your dogs, and I want to sit in peace and read my paper, what business is that of yours? Dont get in my face about what I want to believe. Dont impose your views on me. If you dont want to believe in anything, thats fine. Dont bother me and I wont bother you!
That was his advice anyway.
Quote (princess of the king @ Feb. 12 2010,12:41) stuart, you know i was thinking about something today, just going to throw it out there, since you know i am not a science geek, could it be possible that all living things were created from man and evolved to what they are today?
is it possible?
No.Unless you want to claim that everything is an illusion and we cannot possibly find out anything about the world that can be relied upon. But then if you couldn't rely on the technology of turning a frog into prince with a single kiss, what could you rely on??
Humans have been around for around 185,000 years. Few major evolutionary changes have happened in that time. Single-celled organisms have been on earth for over 4 billion years.
If you stretch your arms out on each side, and that distance you can reach represents the timeline of life on earth, then the history of humans is completely contained within the nail filings from a single sweep of a nail board on one side.
Stuart
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