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- September 17, 2014 at 10:34 am#770220
kerwin
ParticipantNick,
Hi KW,
The natural body is earthy
The new body is from heaven, heavenly.Do you mean earthly as in of this world and heavenly as in not of this world?
Jesus and his disciples were not of this world though only in the Spiritual sense at the time Jesus said it, John 17:16.
This world is bound to corruption and so a body that is of it is also bound to corruption. A body that is of heaven is not bound to corruption.
September 17, 2014 at 10:37 am#770221NickHassan
ParticipantHi KW,
We will be like the man from heaven.
he will not be dressed in tatty torn robes but he will return in glorySeptember 17, 2014 at 10:39 am#770223NickHassan
ParticipantHi KW,
As Moses lifted up the snake for healing so Jesus was lifted up till out of their sight.
Some assume he must still look the same as when he left because they must SEE to believeSeptember 17, 2014 at 10:43 am#770225NickHassan
ParticipantHi KW,
Do you expect to be taken up to meet the Lord in the air or will you only be raised to earth?September 17, 2014 at 1:36 pm#770289kerwin
ParticipantNick,
Hi KW,
We will be like the man from heaven.
he will not be dressed in tatty torn robes but he will return in gloryThe only tattered robes I know are those of righteousness where the individual wearing them falls short of God’s glory.
The man from heaven us a human being whose body is free from being subjected to corruption.
Man is a synonym of human.
September 17, 2014 at 1:40 pm#770290kerwin
ParticipantNick,
Hi KW,
As Moses lifted up the snake for healing so Jesus was lifted up till out of their sight.
Some assume he must still look the same as when he left because they must SEE to believeHe will be seen descending in the same way he ascended and he will be the Son of man when he is seen coming in the clouds.
September 17, 2014 at 1:53 pm#770297NickHassan
ParticipantHi KW,
Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom
September 17, 2014 at 3:04 pm#770306kerwin
ParticipantNick,
Hi KW,
Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom
So you believe that the heavenly man does not have a body of human flesh? Then how us he a human?
September 17, 2014 at 3:49 pm#770309NickHassan
ParticipantHi KW,
Is it necessary for men to be of flesh?
Why?
If Jesus appeared to Paul was he no longer a son of Man?
September 18, 2014 at 7:22 am#770413kerwin
ParticipantNick,
To be a descendant of man you have to be a human being. Human beings are defined by that body and perhaps also their soul and spirit as well.
September 18, 2014 at 7:24 am#770414kerwin
ParticipantNick,
If Jesus appeared to Paul was he no longer a son of Man?
I assume you mean when and not if. He was still a descendent of humanity though I am not sure any of the accounts of that event mention it.
September 18, 2014 at 8:23 am#770433NickHassan
ParticipantHi KW,
Your definition of a human being is meant to be applied to scripture?
By whose authority?September 18, 2014 at 8:43 am#770439kerwin
ParticipantNick,
Every human in Scripture that is a living human being has a human body. Also Paul states “there is one kind of flesh of men” in 1 Corinthians 15:39.
September 19, 2014 at 9:13 am#770773NickHassan
ParticipantHi KW,
So when when the witch of Endor raised the prophet was the prophet still human?
Can a son of man unbecome a son of man?
When angels appeared as humans were they humans?
September 19, 2014 at 9:14 am#770774NickHassan
ParticipantHi KW,
When Moses and Elijah spoke with Jesus on the mountain were they human?
September 19, 2014 at 9:14 am#770775NickHassan
ParticipantHi KW,
Does flesh define a man?
By whose authority?
September 19, 2014 at 10:55 am#770784kerwin
ParticipantNick,
Hi KW,
Does flesh define a man?
By whose authority?
Why are you inventing a new idea. An idea that is not spoken of in Scripture. Scripture does say “there is one kind of flesh of men” but you are inventing something else. Something that is not written in Scripture.
September 19, 2014 at 10:57 am#770785kerwin
ParticipantNick,
Hi KW,
When Moses and Elijah spoke with Jesus on the mountain were they human?
They were as there is nothing written differently. Some say they were just a vision.
September 19, 2014 at 11:00 am#770786kerwin
ParticipantNick,
So when when the witch of Endor raised the prophet was the prophet still human?
I specified living human for a reason but even then Samuel was a ghost, a living soul with no body.
September 19, 2014 at 12:32 pm#770803NickHassan
ParticipantHi KW,
So not human then?
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