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- December 10, 2020 at 1:44 pm#868089MiiaParticipant
Quoted from here: http://www.godsdirectcontact.org/eng/news/177/vg_62.htm
Based on historical documents and the research of many Christian scholars, Jesus Christ and the early Christians were vegetarians.
It is believed that Jesus was a member of the Nazarenes, an Essene group living near Mount Carmel in Israel. The Essenes were one of the main religious sects in first century Palestine. Members wore white and followed a vegetarian diet.
According to the 4th century church historian, Epiphanius, and Jewish philosopher Philo, the Essenes were Jews who kept all the Jewish observances, but were nonviolent toward all living creatures and considered it unlawful to eat meat or make sacrifices with animals. As a member of this group, Jesus would have to have been a vegetarian, as was His brother James (Jacob) and all His disciples.
The main Essene scripture is the Gospel of the Holy Twelve, also known as the Gospel of the Nazarenes. This is the Gospel repeatedly mentioned, described and quoted by many commentators of the first century Church. However, this ancient scripture was hidden away for centuries in a Tibetan monastery and was rediscovered only in 1888. Many of the most revered early church fathers, as well as a surprising number of scholars today, have declared that the Gospel of the Holy Twelve is nothing less than the long-lost original Gospel. According to legend, this Gospel was collectively written by the 12 apostles immediately following Christ’s death, and it is the scripture upon which all of the Biblical synoptic Gospels are based. It so happens that this version of the New Testament also portrays Jesus as a strict vegetarian…..
…..Why were some of Jesus’ teachings in the Essene scriptures excluded from or revised in the Bible? Why did Christianity later abandon its vegetarian roots? According to Steven Rosen in his book, Food for the Spirit, “The early Christian fathers adhered to a meatless regime…many early Christian groups supported the meatless way of life. In fact, the writings of the early Church indicate that meat eating was not officially allowed until the 4th century, when the Emperor Constantine decided that his version of Christianity would be the version for everyone. A meat eating interpretation of the Bible therefore became the official creed of the Roman Empire, and vegetarian Christians had to practice in secret or risk being put to death for heresy. It is said that Constantine used to pour molten lead down their throats if they were captured.”
December 10, 2020 at 1:48 pm#868090MiiaParticipantThis is very interesting so I’m leaving it here for future reference..
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/was-jesus-a-vegetarian_b_276141
December 11, 2020 at 4:56 am#868093GeneBalthropParticipantMiia…..I have a question for you, why did God command the Isrealites to eat the lamb, on the night of the passover, and leave none of it, if he didn’t want us to eat meat? All the way through the old Testement they were eating meat, of lambs, goats, cattle, in all their feast days right.
Look I do think limiting the intake of meat, for vegetables and fish is a better diet, but I don’t think it was prohibited in scriptures. Do you?
Peace and love to you and yours. ……….gene
December 11, 2020 at 12:39 pm#868097Ed JParticipantGood post Gene, but will Miia listen?
December 13, 2020 at 10:26 pm#868165MiiaParticipantMiia…..I have a question for you, why did God command the Isrealites to eat the lamb, on the night of the passover, and leave none of it, if he didn’t want us to eat meat? All the way through the old Testement they were eating meat, of lambs, goats, cattle, in all their feast days right.
Hi Gene,
I have a simple answer to your question.
Matthew 9:13
“Go and learn what this means: ‘I desire mercy and not sacrifice.’Matthew 12:7
“If only you had known the meaning of ‘I desire mercy, not sacrifice,’
you would not have condemned the innocent.”December 13, 2020 at 10:29 pm#868166MiiaParticipantI do think limiting the intake of meat, for vegetables and fish is a better diet, but I don’t think it was prohibited in scriptures. Do you?
It (meat eating) does not appear to be prohibited in scripture. Then again, it may appear to many that God punishes people eternally in hellfire.
December 15, 2020 at 8:45 am#868203Ed JParticipantHi Gene,
I have a simple answer to your question.
Matthew 9:13
“Go and learn what this means: ‘I desire mercy and not sacrifice.’Matthew 12:7
“If only you had known the meaning of ‘I desire mercy, not sacrifice,’
you would not have condemned the innocent.”Hi Miia,
Are you claiming this means: “Don’t eat meat”?
And eating “The Passover” meal does not mean eating meat ???
How odd your doctrine is
December 15, 2020 at 10:12 pm#868213MiiaParticipantOk then, I take I take it nobody has any proof that Jesus ate meat, besides fish. As to who is right then we will find out one day. Case closed.
December 16, 2020 at 1:55 am#868216Ed JParticipantDid Jesus Eat the Passover Supper?
“It appears clear that Jesus and his disciples did eat the Passover supper. Two things make this apparent…”
https://www.christiancourier.com/articles/390-did-jesus-eat-the-passover-supper
February 9, 2021 at 6:32 pm#869286MiiaParticipantThanks for the link Ed. It showed me that Jesus did not!
February 10, 2021 at 11:34 am#869295Ed JParticipantThanks for the link Ed. It showed me that Jesus did not!
Hi Miia,
The article shows that Jesus did in fact eat meat.
The article starts out with the wording…“It appears clear that Jesus and his disciples did eat the Passover supper.
Two things make this apparent…”And what about Jesus’ Apostle Paul? Are you claiming
that the Apostle Paul’s words should not be in our bibles?____________
God bless
Ed JFebruary 10, 2021 at 11:39 am#869296Ed JParticipantMiia, if you want to be a vegetarian that is fine.
But don’t teach the lie that is what the bible teaches, because it does NOT!
August 2, 2021 at 10:48 pm#872510MiiaParticipantEd J, No I am not saying Paul’s words should not be in the Bible. However, I do believe that not ALL of “Paul’s” books are in fact Paul. I have been researching his books lately in fact. “Spot the differences” if you can. I will say no more 🙂
August 2, 2021 at 10:51 pm#872511MiiaParticipantEd J.
We all take whatever we do out of the Bible for ourselves, and each understand things differently. I do not believe in eating dead animal flesh. And personally I don’t believe Lord Jesus did either. But that is just what I understand. I am not teaching that at all (though it is a healthier way of life!).
August 2, 2021 at 10:52 pm#872512MiiaParticipantSo. Who has got the vaccine? (off topic)
August 3, 2021 at 4:18 am#872514gadam123ParticipantHi Miia, this is Adam and I got both doses of Vaccine.
August 3, 2021 at 12:33 pm#872521Ed JParticipantSo. Who has got the vaccine? (off topic)
I’m not! No way
August 3, 2021 at 1:11 pm#872522MiiaParticipantHi Adam. How are you? I used to post as Karmarie.
August 3, 2021 at 1:12 pm#872523MiiaParticipantEd J, Yay!
I am part of NZ groups against the vaccine. Horrific.
August 3, 2021 at 3:16 pm#872524gadam123ParticipantHi Adam. How are you? I used to post as Karmarie.
Hi Sis Karmarie, I am fine here after taking Vaccine. Yes I can recollect my memories about you on this Forum along with Mandy.
What is this new idea of Jesus being Vegan? I like Vegan diets but I consume meat or fish once a week.
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