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Luke 1:26-27 – Now in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God to a city in Galilee called Nazareth, to a virgin engaged to a man whose name was Joseph, of the descendants of David; and the virgin's name was Mary.
1)Was Gabriel a new creation in this world or did he pre-exist with God in heaven?
2) If Jesus was simply a new creation in time from Gods non-personified word-plan in the beginning, did he convert back into a non-personified word-plan when he returned to the right hand of the Father in heaven?
Colter
Quote (Colter @ Mar. 16 2013,03:51) Luke 1:26-27 – Now in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God to a city in Galilee called Nazareth, to a virgin engaged to a man whose name was Joseph, of the descendants of David; and the virgin's name was Mary. 1)Was Gabriel a new creation in this world or did he pre-exist with God in heaven?
2) If Jesus was simply a new creation in time from Gods non-personified word-plan in the beginning, did he convert back into a non-personified word-plan when he returned to the right hand of the Father in heaven?
Colter
Those are good questions Colter, why do you have so much trust in the words of Jesus and not Arius or any of his unbelieving progenitors?Why do you believe in the original Elohim concept “God of Gods” instead of the nature God of Sinai “Yahweh” the God of Israel?
The church is perfect and infallible, they will burn you at the stake for causing the people to ask questions.
Colter
Quote (Colter @ Mar. 16 2013,03:51) Luke 1:26-27 – Now in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God to a city in Galilee called Nazareth, to a virgin engaged to a man whose name was Joseph, of the descendants of David; and the virgin's name was Mary. 1)Was Gabriel a new creation in this world or did he pre-exist with God in heaven?
2) If Jesus was simply a new creation in time from Gods non-personified word-plan in the beginning, did he convert back into a non-personified word-plan when he returned to the right hand of the Father in heaven?
Colter
Did Gabriel exist before he existed?Did I exist before I existed?
Quote (Colter @ Mar. 16 2013,03:51) Luke 1:26-27 – Now in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God to a city in Galilee called Nazareth, to a virgin engaged to a man whose name was Joseph, of the descendants of David; and the virgin's name was Mary. 1)Was Gabriel a new creation in this world or did he pre-exist with God in heaven?
2) If Jesus was simply a new creation in time from Gods non-personified word-plan in the beginning, did he convert back into a non-personified word-plan when he returned to the right hand of the Father in heaven?
Colter
1) per-existed.2) “if” he was a new creation, or “if” he previously existed only in the sense of being a “word/plan” of God, or, even if he wasn't a plan and existed as a spirit person/being before, he did not become a “plan” after he went to heaven. Can a plan judge? Would a plan be a king? Can a plan do anything?
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