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- May 21, 2015 at 11:53 pm#798149ProclaimerParticipant
Trinity doesn’t deny the sonship of Jesus Christ
Islam denies the sonship of Jesus Christ.
Catholicism denies the sonship of Jesus Christ not in word, but in deed because Jesus in deed cannot be the son of God and be God. He cannot be his own son, and he cannot be the son of another God.
Satan is both a blatant liar and a subtle one. He is the Devil, but can also appear as an angel of light. He tries to cover all bases.
May 22, 2015 at 2:18 am#798157DavidLParticipantt8
He cannot be his own son
? not sure what planet you’re on, but Jesus is the Son of the Father..
He is God because He is One with the Father – (not father of himself..!)
you deny what you don’t understand – like Peter says,
“These false teachers are like unthinking animals, creatures of instinct, born to be caught and destroyed. They scoff at things they do not understand, and like animals, they will be destroyed.” – 2 Peter 2:12
May 22, 2015 at 4:24 am#798166kerwinParticipantDavid L,
I see prefer the reasoning based on human principles instead of the word of God because we are taught that Jesus Christ is united with the one true God in the unity of the Spirit and Jesus teaches us that when he says “I and the Father” are one.
Notice that unlike yours, my interpretation comes straight from Scripture. To be precise it is literally written in Ephesians 4:3-6.
Subconsciously you realize yours is flawed but for some reason you inner self finds that hard to hand and so rejects the facts. Hopefully you can come to accept the truth in all ways.
May 22, 2015 at 4:29 am#798167kerwinParticipantAndrewAD & T8,
Whomever does not believe that Jesus is the chief son of God’s Spirit as those that believe in him are the sons of God’s spirit does not believe he is the Son of God.
May 22, 2015 at 6:12 am#798175NickHassanParticipantHi Davidl,
You should scoff at the teachings of men that are added to the bible.
This is the easy stuff.
May 22, 2015 at 8:06 am#798186UMB5ParticipantWould you please share your understanding of the following scripture:
This is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.</span>
I have seen T8 give you this scripture over and over but I don’t believe I have seen you responded or address it. I am curious to what you find this scripture to mean, and how it absolutely does not prove Jesus is not God.
May 23, 2015 at 8:14 am#798275DavidLParticipantThanks, I have addressed this verse at various times – this was my most recent response to it from another thread..
t8
I believe in Jesus words but you contest me when I quote them.
Correction: I contest you because you use the words of Christ to promote your own teaching..
which is based on human logic – and not revelation..
you do here what all false teachers do – bend the Scriptures to fit your own concepts..
Because you cannot make logical sense of the Tri-unity, you end up cherry-picking verses to promote what you think is true
you take one side of the coin and use it to deny the whole picture..
so now you’re actually the one promoting false doctrine.
“This is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.”
To use this verse as you do (in an anti-trinity context) is to make the words of Christ deny His own testimony..!!
you use the Deity of the Father to deny the Deity of the Son..!!
yet if you take this verse back from the anti-trinity box you put it in, we suddenly see within it the very thing you are using it against – the Oneness of Jesus Christ with the Father..!!!
eternal life is in knowing both the Father AND the Son together..
a Unity that makes Him equal to God.
– God the Son.
P.S. Don’t mind Nick ⇓⇓⇓ – he just likes following me around but he’s pretty harmless..
May 23, 2015 at 8:20 am#798276NickHassanParticipantHi davidl,
Unity makes equality?
God the Son?
You are a mouthpiece for confused human religion.
Why not serve the Lord God of Israel and promote His ways?
May 24, 2015 at 6:38 am#798338DavidLParticipantA SHORT HISTORY LESSON..
Is the Trinity Pagan..?May 24, 2015 at 6:42 am#798340NickHassanParticipantHi davidl,
Where is this odd trinity shown in scripture?
Why would you deny that Jesus Christ is the Son of God?
Why would you divide God from His own Spirit?
May 24, 2015 at 6:57 am#798341NickHassanParticipantHi davidl,
Yes you do need to choose to be faithful to God and His teachings.
There are no prizes for faithfulness to man.
June 8, 2015 at 10:53 am#799176ProclaimerParticipantIn this topic @DavidL, videos holds no weight if the idea is contrary to scripture.
We want to see it in scripture before we even consider the possibility that it could be correct.
Scripture says that for us, there is one God the Father.
We need proof that this is wrong.
Repetition of a lie, doesn’t magically make it true after a while. Brainwashing is not the same as a renewed mind. One is a lie inserted into the understanding by repetition, the other clears the mind of lies and rewrites truth in its place.
We desire the latter.
June 10, 2015 at 8:57 am#799301DavidLParticipantThe video simply corrects your own unbiblical teachings about the origins of the trinity doctrine…
June 10, 2015 at 9:24 am#799307NickHassanParticipantHi davidl,
Did this false teaching come from scripture or the false teachers who followed the apostles?
June 10, 2015 at 9:32 am#799312DavidLParticipantThe video addresses and exposes false doctrine taught on this site (ie. that the Godhead spoken of in Scripture is somehow connected to Babylonian gods)..
June 10, 2015 at 9:43 am#799315NickHassanParticipantHi davidl,
Are your teachers more clever than Peter, Paul and John and the apostles?
They were inspired but never mention this bizarre idea.
June 10, 2015 at 9:56 am#799325DavidLParticipantI leave you to your own ideas.
June 10, 2015 at 10:13 am#799333NickHassanParticipantHi davidl,
You follow the ideas that sprang 2-3 centuries after Jesus Christ and offer them as superior to those of Christ?
If you are of the Spirit then drink water from your own cistern.
June 10, 2015 at 10:19 am#799338DavidLParticipantYou follow the ideas that sprang 2-3 centuries after Jesus Christ
You should not be easily convinced by the arguments of carnal men who cannot understand things of the Spirit.
June 10, 2015 at 10:25 am#799340NickHassanParticipantHi davidl,
Which spirit?
Can you prove your trinity by reliance on supported scriptural TEACHINGS?
Or is illogic held together flimsily by trust in inference?
The approval of the Master is vital
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