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T,
The point we are addressing is that the soul can pant after Jehovah. Please try not to get sidetracked. Thank you.
Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 03 2012,08:57) T, The point we are addressing is that the soul can pant after Jehovah. Please try not to get sidetracked. Thank you.
Kthe only way that can happen his IF YOU ARE IN THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE TRUE GOD ,APPLYING HIS WILL FOR YOU ,AND SO WALK WITH HIM IN THE SPIRIT OF YOUR HEART ;THEN ALL THE TOTAL OF YOU THE SOUL WILL PANT FOR GOD'S PROMISE ,
Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 03 2012,09:55) Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 03 2012,08:57) T, The point we are addressing is that the soul can pant after Jehovah. Please try not to get sidetracked. Thank you.
Kthe only way that can happen his IF YOU ARE IN THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE TRUE GOD ,APPLYING HIS WILL FOR YOU ,AND SO WALK WITH HIM IN THE SPIRIT OF YOUR HEART ;THEN ALL THE TOTAL OF YOU THE SOUL WILL PANT FOR GOD'S PROMISE ,
T,Jesus promised that those that hunger and thirst for righteousness will be filled.
Is hungering and thirsting for righteousness the same thing as panting for Jehovah?
k
Quote Is hungering and thirsting for righteousness the same thing as panting for Jehovah? NO, that is not the same because tath thing the nations of the world aspire to accomplish ,to satisfy the people that looks for a righteous government ,
you see in this world it is important to qualify your words ,because even SATAN disguises him as an angel (messenger ) of light
Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 09 2012,01:46) k Quote Is hungering and thirsting for righteousness the same thing as panting for Jehovah? NO, that is not the same because tath thing the nations of the world aspire to accomplish ,to satisfy the people that looks for a righteous government ,
you see in this world it is important to qualify your words ,because even SATAN disguises him as an angel (messenger ) of light
T,I am not understanding your point. I do know that Jesus promises those that hunger and thirst for righteousness that will be filled in Matthew 5:6. I was asking if that is another way to state “blessed are they who pant for God; for they will find him”
Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 09 2012,12:10) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 09 2012,01:46) k Quote Is hungering and thirsting for righteousness the same thing as panting for Jehovah? NO, that is not the same because tath thing the nations of the world aspire to accomplish ,to satisfy the people that looks for a righteous government ,
you see in this world it is important to qualify your words ,because even SATAN disguises him as an angel (messenger ) of light
T,I am not understanding your point. I do know that Jesus promises those that hunger and thirst for righteousness that will be filled in Matthew 5:6. I was asking if that is another way to state “blessed are they who pant for God; for they will find him”
Kall around the world people like righteousnes but not the one that is given By God through his son ,
so again there are always two ways and some times they are so close to each other that it is difficult to distinguish them
this is why I said that the soul is not panthing but the hearth and mind that live within the soul
T,
What you say almost makes sense but if the heart and mind of the soul pant for God's righteousness and his kingdom then the soul is also said to pant for them.
The situation is that according to Jesus' and Jeremiah's words the soul appears to hunger and thirst previously to God writing his word on the mind of a believer and placing it in his heart.
Matthew 5:6
King James Version (KJV)6 Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.
Jeremiah 31:33
King James Version (KJV)33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 10 2012,18:15) T, What you say almost makes sense but if the heart and mind of the soul pant for God's righteousness and his kingdom then the soul is also said to pant for them.
The situation is that according to Jesus' and Jeremiah's words the soul appears to hunger and thirst previously to God writing his word on the mind of a believer and placing it in his heart.
Matthew 5:6
King James Version (KJV)6 Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.
Jeremiah 31:33
King James Version (KJV)33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Kthe reason why I believe that the SOUL does not pant for God ,his that the actions are not done by the soul but by the mind and heart ,but those action once fulfilled are registered onto the soul and so we are judge according to what is written on it (all of our own doing)
T,
Why do you believe past actions “are registered onto the soul”? I am asking for both the passages and your point of view on them. I have yet to find them.
Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 12 2012,12:02) T, Why do you believe past actions “are registered onto the soul”? I am asking for both the passages and your point of view on them. I have yet to find them.
Kwhy would it not be written on the tablets of your live
Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 13 2012,07:31) Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 12 2012,12:02) T, Why do you believe past actions “are registered onto the soul”? I am asking for both the passages and your point of view on them. I have yet to find them.
Kwhy would it not be written on the tablets of your live
T,I do not the know the answer of your question but I do know that I have not found where a person's soul is a recorder for there actions.
Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 14 2012,13:39) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 13 2012,07:31) Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 12 2012,12:02) T, Why do you believe past actions “are registered onto the soul”? I am asking for both the passages and your point of view on them. I have yet to find them.
Kwhy would it not be written on the tablets of your live
T,I do not the know the answer of your question but I do know that I have not found where a person's soul is a recorder for there actions.
Kwhy according to scriptures can a soul be dead and yet still be alive
Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 14 2012,19:27) Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 14 2012,13:39) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 13 2012,07:31) Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 12 2012,12:02) T, Why do you believe past actions “are registered onto the soul”? I am asking for both the passages and your point of view on them. I have yet to find them.
Kwhy would it not be written on the tablets of your live
T,I do not the know the answer of your question but I do know that I have not found where a person's soul is a recorder for there actions.
Kwhy according to scriptures can a soul be dead and yet still be alive
T,Perhaps the answer is in the true statement that “the souls of the dead are alive”
Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 15 2012,02:17) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 14 2012,19:27) Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 14 2012,13:39) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 13 2012,07:31) Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 12 2012,12:02) T, Why do you believe past actions “are registered onto the soul”? I am asking for both the passages and your point of view on them. I have yet to find them.
Kwhy would it not be written on the tablets of your live
T,I do not the know the answer of your question but I do know that I have not found where a person's soul is a recorder for there actions.
Kwhy according to scriptures can a soul be dead and yet still be alive
T,Perhaps the answer is in the true statement that “the souls of the dead are alive”
Kit all depend on what you mean his ALIVE
Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 16 2012,16:08) T, As you say, it does does depend on what you mean by both “dead” and “alive”.
kso what is
1) dead
2) alive
Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 18 2012,11:03) Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 16 2012,16:08) T, As you say, it does does depend on what you mean by both “dead” and “alive”.
kso what is
1) dead
2) alive
T,Jehovah has declared that the soul can only be destroyed in the fiery pit, and I know of no exceptions he made to that rule. The body can be destroyed by man, or a number of other ways.
The body rests in the earth and the soul dwells in Sheol/Hades awaiting judgment day.
Even when a soul is called a dead soul the soul is alive but it is called a dead soul because it is the soul of the dead.
Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 18 2012,13:59) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 18 2012,11:03) Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 16 2012,16:08) T, As you say, it does does depend on what you mean by both “dead” and “alive”.
kso what is
1) dead
2) alive
T,Jehovah has declared that the soul can only be destroyed in the fiery pit, and I know of no exceptions he made to that rule. The body can be destroyed by man, or a number of other ways.
The body rests in the earth and the soul dwells in Sheol/Hades awaiting judgment day.
Even when a soul is called a dead soul the soul is alive but it is called a dead soul because it is the soul of the dead.
KQuote Even when a soul is called a dead soul the soul is alive but it is called a dead soul because it is the soul of the dead. GOOD ,and it is dead in relation of the works that it can do
T,
It is my belief that a man is Spiritually dead when his works are of the flesh and so not of the Spirit. Both the soul and body are alive at that time because no one sins when they are dead, Romans 6:7.
Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 19 2012,04:26) T, It is my belief that a man is Spiritually dead when his works are of the flesh and so not of the Spirit. Both the soul and body are alive at that time because no one sins when they are dead, Romans 6:7.
Ki disagree on this because we can not live otherwise than in the flesh ,
so it his the works of the flesh versa the works of the spirit that is the key
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