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Quote (Is 1:18 @ Feb. 12 2007,04:42) Quote (Becauce of Him @ Feb. 12 2007,04:04) You still will not answer me about how God the Father calls Him God not Lord
Hi Boh,
The Father also calls Him Lord in Heb 1:10, which is even more emphatic since it could only mean YHWH…..Nice posting BTW, you have produced a lot of scripture in order to verify your position, too bad none of it has really been addressed….
Hi Isa 1.18,
So God called Christ…Himself??
A unique view.ZEC 14:9 And Jehovah must become king over all the earth. In that day Jehovah will prove to be one, and his name one.
Rev 11:15 NWTAnd the seventh angel blew his trumpet. And loud voices occurred in heaven, saying: “The kingdom of the world did become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he will rule as king forever and ever.”
Notice Jehovah to be One after everthing is said and done!!!!!!!! they truely are ONE!!!!!! They will Have ONE name that should take the confusion out of it!!!!!!!!Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 12 2007,04:45) So God called Christ…Himself??
A unique view.
…yes, well I know it doesn't make sense from your henotheistic viewpoint, but that does not invalidate it…we should not superimpose our presuppositions onto scripture, but rather let it speak for itself.If I hear you wright you dont think God can Be two. and be God.So God can not be Hear on earth talking to God in Heaven. And when I say God I mean YHWH Jehovah! Well It Happened!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gen 19:24 Then Jehovah rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire, from Jehovah out of the heavens.
It says Jehovah made it rain sulphur from Jehovah in heaven.
Two Jehovahsno confusion read the word Gen 19:24. It ok if you are Born again the Holy Spirit will teach you all things.
The question they asked him No more
Mat 22:46 And no man was able to answer him a word, neither durst any [man] from that day forth ask him any more [questions].
I am glad to be found asking with others?
May we overcome in truthSon of Man?
SON OF God?
The Father knoweth
Mar 13:32 But of that day and [that] hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.
Mat 22:42 Saying, What think ye of Christ? whose son is he? They say unto him, [The Son] of David.
Mat 22:43 He saith unto them, How then doth David in spirit call him Lord, saying,The Father also calls Him Lord in Heb 1:10,
The Lord said to my Lord?
Mat 22:44 The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool?
Mat 22:45 If David then call him Lord, how is he his son?
Mat 22:46 And no man was able to answer him a word, neither durst any [man] from that day forth ask him any more [questions].Hbr 1:13 But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool?
Psa 2:7 I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou [art] my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
Hbr 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?Mar 8:38 Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.
Mat 22:45 If David then call him Lord, how is he his son?
Resurrection of life Hbr 10:9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.
Hbr 10:5 ¶ Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:Tts 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
Jud 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
Quote (Becauce of Him @ Feb. 12 2007,06:44) no confusion read the word Gen 19:24. It ok if you are Born again the Holy Spirit will teach you all things.
Hi boh,
The Spirit does not speak on His own initiative but takes you back to the scriptures. There is no trinity taught in scripture.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 12 2007,09:11) Quote (Becauce of Him @ Feb. 12 2007,06:44) no confusion read the word Gen 19:24. It ok if you are Born again the Holy Spirit will teach you all things.
Hi boh,
The Spirit does not speak on His own initiative but takes you back to the scriptures. There is no trinity taught in scripture.
Doesn't scripture say that Jesus is God?Heb 1:8 but of the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever; And the sceptre of uprightness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
Heb 1:9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; Therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee With the oil of gladness above thy fellows.But what else does scripture say? …Therefore God, thy God…
The Trinity doctrine states that the Son is equal with the Father. However scripture states that the Son's God is Jehovah our God.
Why is Jesus called God by the Father? Because Jesus has the Holy Spirit without measure. He is the only begotten of the Father full of God but not God the Father. You are not your father but you are like unto your father.
Jesus is God and His God is my God.
God are Savior appeared to man!
Tit 3:4 But when the kindness and love of God our Savior toward man appeared,
Tit 3:4 nwt However, when the kindness and the love for man on the part of our Savior, God, was manifested,Is this your Savior that was Manifested! This is my GOD AND SAVIOR
Hi boh,
Have you still not grasped that God saves, and is expressed in the fulness of deity through His Son?So we come full circle to what God said back in Isaiah 43:10 “YOU are my witnesses,” is the utterance of Jehovah, “even my servant whom I have chosen, in order that YOU may know and have faith in me, and that YOU may understand that I am the same One. Before me there was no God formed, and after me there continued to be none. 11 I—I am Jehovah, and besides me there is no savior.”
12 “I myself have told forth and have saved and have caused [it] to be heard, when there was among YOU no strange [god]. So YOU are my witnesses,” is the utterance of Jehovah, “and I am God. 13 Also, all the time I am the same One; and there is no one effecting deliverance out of my own hand. I shall get active, and who can turn it back?”
I tell you today you have a strange god among you. Because two you Jesus is god Not GOD.
I am Jehovah, and besides me there is no savior.”Jehovah say:That YOU may know and have faith in me, and that YOU may understand that I am the same One.
So do you have faith in Jehovah if you did you would understand He is the same ONE!!!!!
There is no one effecting deliverance out of my own hand. Did another god a fales god deliver you out of His hand!!
Jesus has to be this God or He is no Savior because their is only One SAvior.Hi boh,
So to stop going round in circles if you are in Christ then 1 Cor 8 applies to you.
No confusion of men's voices but the voice of the Shepherd through Paul.Yes Jesus SAVES because He is GOD JEHOVAH READ ISAIAH. ASK THE HOLY SPIRIT TO REVEIL HOW GOD IS. THEN YOU WELL KNOW HIM THOUGH THE PERSON OF JESUS. JESUS SAID IF YOU HAVE SEEN ME YOU HAVE SEEN THE FATHER!!!! SEE JESUS AS HE IS SON OF MAN AND SON OF GOD. HE WAS MAN BECAUSE HE WAS A SON OF A MAN. HE IS GOD BECAUSE HE IS THE SON OF GOD.
Hi boh,
Sadly you are deceived.
You deny the Son of God saying he is his own father.
Matthew 10:33
But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.So because i am in christ dose that make us Gods? or does that make us in union with Christ. COME on you know it mean this. I have never said YOU must folwow me i am the way the truth and the way. Joh 14:6 Jesus said to him, I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life; no one comes to the Father but by Me. listen to jesus say because he is a god you can get to the Father through him. This can only be said by a TRUE GOD not a god.
I am not denying Him as the son of MAN,THE SON OF GOD, MY LORD AND MASTER, THE MIGHTY GOD,THE PRINCE OF PEACE,ETERNAL FATHER WONDERFUL COUNSELOR, THE ROCK
BUT YOU DENY HIM AS MIGHTY GOD NOTICE CAPITAL G ETERANAL FATHER THE ONLY ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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