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I think we should do both, and in listening to Him we should also seek to understand what he meant by certain self descriptives He used.
What do you think He meant when he called Himself the “Son of God”?
Quote (Is 1:18 @ Feb. 11 2007,01:43) I think we should do both, and in listening to Him we should also seek to understand what he meant by certain self descriptives He used. What do you think He meant when he called Himself the “Son of God”?
Hi Is 1.18,
Perhaps you should ask why God called him His Son on several occasions.Perhaps you should ask why God called him (Jesus) God.
Heb 1:8 But of the Son He says, “YOUR THRONE, O GOD, IS FOREVER AND EVER, AND THE RIGHTEOUS SCEPTER IS THE SCEPTER OF HIS KINGDOM.
Heb 1:9 “YOU HAVE LOVED RIGHTEOUSNESS AND HATED LAWLESSNESS; THEREFORE GOD, YOUR GOD, HAS ANOINTED YOU WITH THE OIL OF GLADNESS ABOVE YOUR COMPANIONS.”
Heb 1:10 And, “YOU, LORD, IN THE BEGINNING LAID THE FOUNDATION OF THE EARTH, AND THE HEAVENS ARE THE WORKS OF YOUR HANDS;
This is the same God in Gen 1:3 Then God said, “Let there be light”; and there was light.
Gen 1:4 God saw that the light was good; and God separated the light from the darkness.
Gen 1:5 God called the light day, and the darkness He called night. And there was evening and there was morning, one day.
Gen 1:6 Then God said, “Let there be an expanse in the midst of the waters, and let it separate the waters from the waters.”Psa 33:6 By the word of the LORD the heavens were made, And by the breath of His mouth all their host.
Psa 33:7 He gathers the waters of the sea together as a heap; He lays up the deeps in storehouses.
Psa 33:8 Let all the earth fear the LORD; Let all the inhabitants of the world stand in awe of Him.
Psa 33:9 For He spoke, and it was done; He commanded, and it stood fast.The same God in John 1:1-3 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 He was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being.He Jesus is God the creator!
Now I am not saveing Jesus is God the Father. I am saying He is God The CREATOR, GOD THE SAVIOR. and God THE SON FOR GOD IS ONE GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Isa 44:6 “Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the LORD of hosts: 'I am the first and I am the last, And there is no God besides Me.
Isa 44:7 'Who is like Me? Let him proclaim and declare it; Yes, let him recount it to Me in order, From the time that I established the ancient nation. And let them declare to them the things that are coming And the events that are going to take place.
Isa 44:8 'Do not tremble and do not be afraid; Have I not long since announced it to you and declared it? And you are My witnesses. Is there any God besides Me, Or is there any other Rock? I know of none.'”Hi boh,
Do you think he was a God of our God?
Did Jesus not remind the Pharisees that men are also called gods in scripture and of course angels are called gods[ps 97etc]and even satan is called the god of this world so you should not confuse thioose who are CALLED gods with our ONE TRUE GOD who is the God of jesus.However if you are not yet one of the US of 1 cor 8 or you may enjoy the intellectual circus that includes the trinity roundabout but commonsense says you should keep it simple and practical that for us there is one God, the Father.
Jesus name above all names.
Every knee to bow to Him.
Every tongue will confess Jesus Christ is Lord.
Php 2:6 who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped,
Php 2:7 but emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men.
Php 2:8 Being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross.
Php 2:9 For this reason also, God highly exalted Him, and bestowed on Him the name which is above every name,
Php 2:10 so that at the name of Jesus EVERY KNEE WILL BOW, of those who are in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
Php 2:11 and that every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
Jesus name is above all names even the name of Jehovah. Jesus shared the Same name as God sents He is God and was Equal with God in the beginning. It says in Php that He (Jesus) Know we would not understand so He but emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men. So as a man He WAs LOWER than GOD and EVEN the ANGel The one He Created!!!
It is Because Of are sin that we are Lower than the Angels we Will soon be OVER THEM AND JUDGEING them when we are with CHRIST, on His return!!! So It like the Prince and the Poper story!!! Jesus was still God on EARTh But subjected HIM self to BE one of us. The only deferents was He followed the LAW with PERFECTION!!!!!!!! and because of that We have LIFE. He THAN HUMBLED HIM SELF TO DIE FOR US. NOW GOD DIDNT DIE REMEEMBER MAN CAN ONLY KILL THE BODY NOT SOUL AND SPIRIT!!! GOD CAN ONLY KILL SOUL AND SPIRIT.
SO WE THE SINNER KILLED JESUS HE PAYED THE PRICE FOR US OF BEING ETURNALLY SEPERATED FROM GOD ELOHIYM . THAT IS THE DEATH THAT WE SHOULD FEAR NOT THE DEATH OF ARE BODYS. JESUS REAL AGANY WAS NOT THAT HIS BODY WAS DIEING IT WAS THE BREAF SEPERATION FROM GOD THE FATHER WHEN HE JESUS BORE ARE SINS. GOD THE FATHER REDEEMED JESUS FOR ARE SINS.Isa 44:6 So says Jehovah, the King of Israel, and His redeemer Jehovah of Hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and besides Me there is no God.
Isa 44:7 And who, as I, shall call, and shall declare it and set it in order for Me, since I placed the people of old? And the things that are coming, and shall come, let them declare to them.
Isa 44:8 Fear not, nor be afraid; have I not told you and made you hear since then? So you are My witnesses. Is there a God besides Me? Yea, there is none. I have not known a Rock.SO ONE JEHOVAH SAVES THE OTHER JEHOVAH.
iF YOU YOU DONT BELIEVE GOD IS JESUS YOU HAVE NO SAVIOR BECAUSE GOD SAYS HE IS THE ONLY SAVIOR AND GOD AND ROCK, GOD KNOW OF NO OTHER SAVIOR. READ ISA 43 FOR YOUR SELF.SEE IF WHAT I HAVE SAID AND PROCLAIM TO YOU IS TRUE JESUS IS GOD THE SAVIOR AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN BECAUSE THEIR IS NO ONE ELSE THAT CAN BE ACORDING TO JEHOVAH GOD.
Isa 43:10 You are My witnesses, says Jehovah, and My servant whom I have chosen; that you may know and believe Me, and understand that I am He. Before Me no God was formed, nor shall there be after Me.
Isa 43:11 I, I am Jehovah; and there is none to save besides Me.
Isa 43:12 I have declared, and have saved, and I have shown, when there was no strange god among you; therefore you are My witnesses, says Jehovah, that I am God.
Isa 43:13 Yea, before the day was, I am He; and no one delivers out of My hand; I will work, and who will reverse it?
Isa 45:21 Declare and bring near; yea, let them take counsel together. Who has declared this of old? Who has told it from then? Is it not I, Jehovah? And there is no other God besides Me; a just God and a Savior; there is none beside Me.Psa 82:6 I said, “You are gods, And all of you are sons of the Most High.
Joh 10:34 Jesus answered them, “Has it not been written in your Law, 'I SAID, YOU ARE GODS'?
Joh 10:35 “If he called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken),
Psa 82:1 A Psalm of Asaph. God stands in the congregation of the mighty; in the midst of the gods He judges.
(Jesus is not just a god Because He Judges all, in fact He is the God that stands in the congregation judging the so call religious leaders.)Psa 82:2 How long will you judge unjustly and lift up the faces of the wicked? Selah.
Psa 82:3 Defend the poor and fatherless; do justice to the afflicted and needy.
Psa 82:4 Deliver the poor and needy; save them out of the hand of the wicked.
Psa 82:5 They neither know nor will understand; they walk on in darkness; all the foundations of the earth are shaken.
Psa 82:6 I have said, You are gods; and all of you sons of the Most High.
{They are like gods because they judge.}
Psa 82:7 But you shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.
Psa 82:8 Arise, O God, judge the earth; for You shall inherit in all nations.
Why does God call them gods.
1.Because they have become mighty that people look to them before God!
2. They (the religious leader) stand in the judgement seat of God!
3. They judge unjustly though!
4. They support the wicked and lift them up as good.
Then God says to stop judging and defend but they walk in darkness and dont understand the light.
In fact God says, to save the poor out of the hands of the wicked, the very one the hold up as good but are in fact wicked.Joh 5:22 For the Father judges no man, but has committed all judgment to the Son,
JESUS IS EQUAL TO THE FATHER BEFORE HE CAME AND AFTER HE DIED FOR US. WHEN HE WAS MAN HE KNOW WE WOULD NOT UNDER STAND HIS EQUALTY WITH GOD EVEN KNOW HE WAS IN THE FORM OF GOD. SO HE JESUS EMPTY HIM SELF AND HUMBLED HIMSELF EVEN TO BE COME LIKE US AND BEING UNDER THE LAW. THAT IS WHY HE BECAME LOWER THAN GOD THE FATHER AND THE ANGEAL. FOR A TIME THAN AT HIS DEATH HE ASKED THE FATHER TO GIVE HIM THE SAME GLORY HE HAD BEFORE HE CAME. AS BEING THE CREATOR OF ALL THE AND THE PRAISE HE DISERVE AS GOD.
THIS WAS THE GLORY OF JESUS HE HAD WITH THE FATHER BEFORE HE CAME TO EARTH!
Psa 148:1 Praise the LORD! Praise the LORD from the heavens; Praise Him in the heights!
Psa 148:2 Praise Him, all His angels; Praise Him, all His hosts!
Psa 148:3 Praise Him, sun and moon; Praise Him, all stars of light!
Psa 148:4 Praise Him, highest heavens, And the waters that are above the heavens!
Psa 148:5 Let them praise the name of the LORD, For He commanded and they were created.
{THIS IS THE WORD OF THE LORD (I.E JESUS)}
Psa 148:6 He has also established them forever and ever; He has made a decree which will not pass away.
Psa 148:7 Praise the LORD from the earth, Sea monsters and all deeps;
Psa 148:8 Fire and hail, snow and clouds; Stormy wind, fulfilling His word;
Psa 148:9 Mountains and all hills; Fruit trees and all cedars;
Psa 148:10 Beasts and all cattle; Creeping things and winged fowl;
Psa 148:11 Kings of the earth and all peoples; Princes and all judges of the earth;
Psa 148:12 Both young men and virgins; Old men and children.
Psa 148:13 Let them praise the name of the LORD, For His name alone is exalted; His glory is above earth and heaven.
Psa 148:14 And He has lifted up a horn for His people, Praise for all His godly ones; Even for the sons of Israel, a people near to Him. Praise the LORD!WE WILL ALL WORSHIP THE SON LIKE WE WORSHIP THE FATHER.
Joh 5:23 so that all should honor the Son, even as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him.Hi boh,
Yes Jesus is the Son of God who has been given all authority by God.
It is wiser build on these simple facts than to try to build something on the sand of trinity.JESUS WAS NOT A SO CALLED god BECAUSE HE WILL BE GOD JUDGEING THEM AND THEY WILL DIE LIKE MEN IN THEIR SINS.
NOW ALSO REMEMBER JESUS COULD NOT BE LOMPED IN WITH THEM BECAUSE HE DIDNT COME TO JUDGE BUT TO SAVE THE WORLD!!!!
WHEN HE RETURNS WE WILL SEE THE GOD OF THE OLD TESTAMENT AND ALL HIS RATH THE ONE THAT JUDGES ALL MEN IS JESUS.
Joh 5:22 For the Father judges no man, but has committed all judgment to the Son,Hi boh,
Is it not amazing the unity Christ has with God?
What a team!
You want to join with them or philosophise?yOU ARE MISSING THE PIONT THEIR IS ONLY ONE GOD BUT THEY ARE BOTH CALLED GOD BY THE HOLY SPIRIT BECAUSE HE WAS USED TO WRIGHT THE BIBLE AND HUMAN WROUGT THAT JESUS WAS GOD AND MOST OF ALL GOD SAID JESUS IS GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I SAY JESUS IS GOD BECAUSE HE HAS REVEILD THIS TO ME FROM HIS WORD A HAVE NOT LIED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IF YOU SAY I LIED YOU ARE CALLING GOD A LIER AND THE TRUETH IS NOT IN YOU!!!!!!!! DID GOD CALL THE SON GOD IN HEB 1:8 DID GOD SAY THE WORD WAS WITH HIM AT THE BEGINNING AND THAT HE WAS GOD!!!! AND DIDNT GOD SAY HE WAS THE ONLY GOD HE KNOW IN ISAIAH LONG AFTER THE BEGINNIG IS GOD A LIER NO HE IS NOT BECAUSE THEY WHERE BOTH ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THEY SAID LET US MAKE MAN IN ARE IMAGE, ACCORDING TO OUR LIKENESS.
THIER IS MORE THAN 1 HEAR OR GOD TALKS TO HIM SELF DOES THIS SOUND FAMILUR GOD PRAYED TO GOD. I SAY TO YOU THAT HE MANIFIST HIM SELF AS A LEAST MORE THAN ONE BECAUSE GOD DOES NOT TALK TO HIMSELF AND HE WAS NOT TALKING TO AN ANGEL BECAUSE IT SAYS IN GEN 1:27 AND GOD CREATED US IN THE IMAGE OF GOD MEANING WE WOULD RULE THE EARTH AS HE IS THE RULER OF EVERY THING. AFTER THE SIN GOD SAID LOOK MAN HAS BECOME ONE OF US.
GOD SAID HE IS ONE I BELIEVE IT EVEN KNOW I WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND IT TELL I MEAT HIM!
BUT I DO KNOW MY CREATOR GOD ELOHIYM AND THE GOD HE MADE ALL THINGS THOUGH THE WORD THE LOGOS THAT BECAME FLEASH AND DWELT AMONG US. HE CAME TO HIS OWEN BUT THEY DIDNT KNOW HIM OR ELES THEY WOULD NOT HAVE KILLED THEIR CREATOR.
YES THEIR GOD. BECAUSE GOD WAS THE CREATOR !!!!! IS IT IMPORTANT TO KNOW THIS TO KNOW GOD AND HIS MERCY THAT GOD THE CREATOR DIED FOR US. I WILL NOT DENIE MY GOD THE ONE THAT CREATED ME WILL YOU.Hi boh,
No Jesus is the Son of Our creator God and was used by God in creation as His instrument.
God did not come to earth and die.
God cannot die.
So turn back from this fanciful foray into the marshes of folly because the pretty butterflies of speculation are not worth sinking in the mire chasing them.YOU ALL SAY I BELIEVE IN A MAN MADE philosophise BUT I HAVE NOT STUDY THE TRINITY BUT I BELEIVE IN THE WORD OF GOD AND IT SAYS THAT THEIR IS ONE GOD AND READ THAT JESUS IS A TRUE GOD AND SAYS HE IS THE CREATOR AND GOD SAID THAT HIS SON WAS GOD. I BELIEVE IN GOD THE ALMIGHTY THAT HE IS ONE THERE IS NO OTHER BEFORE AND AFTER HIM.
Isa 43:10 You are My witnesses, says Jehovah, and My servant whom I have chosen; that you may know and believe Me, and understand that I am He. Before Me no God was formed, nor shall there be after Me.
Isa 43:11 I, I am Jehovah; and there is none to save besides Me.
Isa 43:12 I have declared, and have saved, and I have shown, when there was no strange god among you; therefore you are My witnesses, says Jehovah, that I am God.NOT THAT GOD DOES NOT KNOW THIER ARE FALES god AND SO CALLED god, HE IS SAYING HE KNOWS ONLY ONE TRUE GOD AND HE IS IT.
Hi boh,
Jesus is the truth.
Jesus told the Jews the Father was their God. He was not lying surely?Jn 8.54
54Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God:He said the Father was the one true God?
He was not lying surely?Jn 17.3
” 3And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. 'Go back to simplicity before the tide comes in and the waters wash over your head.
2Cor 11
” 1Would to God ye could bear with me a little in my folly: and indeed bear with me.2For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.
3But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
4For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him. “
Heb 1:9 You have loved righteousness and hated iniquity, therefore God, Your God, has anointed You with the oil of gladness above Your fellows.”
Heb 1:10 And, “You, Lord, have laid the foundation of the earth in the beginning, and the heavens are the works of Your hands.
Heb 1:11 They shall perish, but You will remain. And they shall all become old as a garment,
GOD SAYS GOD LAID THE FOUNDATION OF THE EARTH. iT WAS THOUGH THE WORD THE LOGOS THAT HE DID HIS WORK YES BUT GOD GIVE HIM THE CREIDIT AS SHOULD WE
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