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Berean……you need to try to understand the timeline of events, given in Rev 17, then it will help you understand much about revelations, try to see that John was “transported in time” to the End of the Thousand year period, of the kingdom of Jesus and the Saint’s.
This might help , go reread what Jesus said about his return, what would be happening then, it does not fit what people are saying about what is to take place before his return.The coming of Jesus.
Luk 21: 25……And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; (these are celestial events) , and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity (why are all the nations of the world distressed and “perplexed”? , because something is coming through our solar system, causing this to happen). “the sea and the waves roaring ; (grant tsunamis ) “men’s hearts failing them (heart attacks why?) ” for the fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken”. (The powers of heaven are the gravitational pulls that lock the planets in there orbits, “it” shall be shaken and cause our planet to wobble creating giant waves or tsunamis which shall kill many. Then shall they see the son of man coming in the could with power and great glory.Berean it is these things that are going to take the world by surprise , because no one is actually telling people that that is going to happen right before Jesus returns, instead their telling people about what is written in revelation is what is going to happen right before Jesus returns , so the whole world will be caught by surprise when Jesus returns , but we don’t have to be.
peace and love to you and yours……..geneProclaimer…..Here is the difference between you and me, I am here trying to show others how “I ” see, the interruption of the book of revelations among other things, you on the other hand are here to accuse me of being a liar, and saying I am saying false things about book of Revelations , which you or anyone else have never proved I have yet, nor proved what I said was wrong.
Gene, even this is a lie. First you purposefully drew the wrong conclusion about me saying that there are many things in the Abyss. Before that, I gave you a scripture and you continue to ignore it completely. And earlier, Berean gave you a clear scripture too and you have yet to give an answer for that. These scriptures and others clearly prove your teaching is false. Despite all this, you continue to double down on your teaching which has been thoroughly disproved.
And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
and they worshiped the “dragon” which gave power unto the beast.
Further, you have made many accusations over the years that are false. You have a tendency to draw the opposite conclusion from scripture and also what we say. This is a sign of the antichrist spirit. It opposes or is the opposite to the anointing. I have found you to be incredibly dishonest over the years and I do not trust you. We wait for your answer on these three scriptures. But if you still ignore these, I will put you on the Hot Seat.
Proclaimer……. just as I wait for your answers to the scriptures I quoted about Rev 17, as far as dishonesty goes , why haven’t you dealt with those scriptures yet? Those scriptures you quoted changes nothing about what I have posted regarding in Rev 17, nor Daniel 2 , about John speaking from the point of view of the days after the thousand year reign of Jesus and the Saint’s, He was not speaking about what was going to happen before Jesus returned , but after and at the end of the Sixth kingdom to come on this earth , the kingdom of Jesus Christ and the Saint’s> . That was and still is the main issue here, but you as always tried to divert from the main subject matter of what a person says and the evidence he or she produces , just as you have with others here including Jodi, and others you have deemed false teachers, truth is you yourself would not except anything they said unless it lined up with what you believe. Your wrong Proclaimer simple as that IMO.
Peace and love to you and yours……..gene
Satan is also preparing his return, disguised as an angel of light, he will try to counterfeit the return of Christ, and he will almost seduce there.
Proclaimer……. just as I wait for your answers to the scriptures I quoted about Rev 17, as far as dishonesty goes , why haven’t you dealt with those scriptures yet?
Two good reasons for that.
- I read your posts till I find the first error. Usually that is the first thing you say. I don’t bother reading everything you say because there would never be enough time to correct it all.
- You usually post other scriptures to negate the scriptures we give you. You then expect us to look at your scripture. Fair enough, but you should first reply regarding the one we gave you. Another scripture doesn’t make the scriptures we quoted go away. And surely you would be interested in any scripture that proves you wrong. It provides a chance to receive more light.
In light of all this, I think the Hot Seat format will suit this discussion better. That way we have to reply regarding the scriptures we quote. And one at a time. I will let you know when this is set up.
Hi to all,
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This is not an isolated case. Sadly, drug counterfeiting has become an increasing problem in our society. The Food and Drug Administration checked out an average of five cases a year back in the 1990s, but now there are over 20 investigations a year. With more sophisticated technology, counterfeiters sometimes succeed in introducing counterfeit drugs into the system.
For example, Procrit, which fights anemia and fatigue in cancer and AIDS patients, was counterfeited in 2002. Tap water that had not been sterilized was used to water down the original drug until it was only one-twentieth of its original strength. Not only was it weakened, it also posed a threat of infection from contaminated water. Epogen, a drug that is used to treat severe anemia, was also recently counterfeited. And there are others. These watered-down drugs could not be nearly as effective and did not help the patients who took them.
Likewise, some people water down the Water of Life. By teaching and preaching a “soft” or “cheap” gospel, they tamper with the medicine for people’s souls. Just like the watered-down medications, a diluted gospel is dangerous to spiritual health. One form of a diluted gospel says it is okay to keep sinning, because God always forgives the sinner. Paul addresses this argument by saying, “Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? Certainly not! How shall we who died to sin live any longer in it?” (Romans 6:1, 2). And Jesus said, “If you love Me, keep My commandments” (John 14:15).
The true, undiluted gospel of Jesus Christ is a call to obedience and discipleship.
KEY BIBLE TEXTS
For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Romans 1:16Good message Berean.
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Berean…….Satan is not returning to this earth he has been and is here, Satan does not come back to the earth until he has be removed for a thousand years , then he returns back after he is released from the bottomless pit.
Watchout that when Jesus returns you won’t get him mixed up with him being Satan, be careful , because this is what those false prophets are saying , by saying the “Antichrist” is coming first,
Go listen to whatJesus said his return was going to be like, it,s nothing like what all these prophets are saying, the have the timeline of Rev 17 mixed up, the prophesying about what is going to take place after the thousand year reign of Jesus and the Saints, when Satan is released from the bottomless pit, and returns to this earth for a short time 3 1/2 years.
Peace and love to you and yours……gene
Gene
Satan the Dragon will Come just Before the Lord Jésus To trie To deceiv if possible the elects, in The Time OF thé Plagues( the sixth)
And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
[13] And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of THE DRAGON, and out of the mouth of the BEAST, and out of the mouth of the FALSE PROPHET.
[14] For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.[15] Behold, I(Jesus) come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
Berean….The great day of who?, Almighty God. That’s not Jesus Christ. He is not the almighty that great day is when, God the Father returns to this earth , and Jesus turns over the his kingdom to God the Father, most of all those thing they are saying, takes place after the thousand year reign of Jesus and the Saint’s on this earth.
Berean listen to the timeline given in Rev 17 , that the only way to get it right brother. All these people who are following these false prophets will be caught of guard, because those things are not what takes place when Jesus returns,
Jesus clearly told us what is going to take place, believe what he said would happen, what he told his deciples because that is what is going to happen, right before he returns.
Peace and love to you and yours……….gene
Gene
The whole New Testament tells us about the return of JESUS
THE LAST MESSAGE IN THE APOCALYPSE IS:
He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
THIS IS THE HOPE OF ALL CHRISTIANS
Berean…..Yes Jesus told us specific things that will happen, just Pryor to his return. I have posted them., many times here. But they are not what these false prophets are saying, because they have gotten mixed up the return of Jesus , with the return of God Almighty, Jesus’s return is a “Celestial” event and will take place exact as he said to the deciples and us.
That is why it is so important to understand the. Timeline given in Rev 17 , it is so important to understand it.
Most all of what these modern day prophets are saying happens at the end of the thousand year regin of Jesus Christ and the Saint’s.
Peace and love to you and yours……gene
Gene
THE NEXT GREAT EVENT IS THE ADVENT OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST IN HIS GLORY AND THE GLORY OF HIS FATHER.
BEFORE THAT….
MATHEW 24
[14] And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
THEN
END OF THE PROBATION,S TIME
THEN THE SEVEN PLAGUES JUST BEFORE THE ADVENT OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST…
Berean……the gospel shall be preached in all nations as a witness, during the millennial reIgn of Jesus Christ and the Saints, AND THEN SHALL THE END COME, WHEN GOD THE FATHER RETURNS TO THIS EARTH. That’s the end of all thing, and God the father creates all things new Again.
I am telling you the truth The end is not when Jesus returns to this earth, it happens at the end of his and the saint’s reign on this earth.
peace and love to you and your……….geneHi Gene. You said
the gospel shall be preached in all nations as a witness, during the millennial reIgn of Jesus Christ and the Saints, AND THEN SHALL THE END COME.
Let’s analyze that.
“The gospel shall be preached….in all nations….as a witness…”
This is happening now and has been happening since Jesus Christ… Is that true?
“during.. the millennial… reign of Christ..”
(read as: thousand of years. Approximately 2000 years)…
“and then shall the end come”.
Yep. Maybe even in our lifetime.
Gene
Jesus is coming back very SOON
Do you believe that?Yes.
Satan is also preparing his return, disguised as an angel of light, he will try to counterfeit the return of Christ, and he will almost seduce there.
Yep.
Yes Miia
THIS IS Now everybody Need to beleive the true EVERLASTING GOSPEL
Revelation 14
[6] And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
[7] Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
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