Criticism of Muhammad

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  • #175836
    bodhitharta
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    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 05 2010,14:33)

    Quote (karmarie @ Feb. 01 2010,18:11)

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 01 2010,14:36)
    Jesus returned at Pentecost


    Ed, so where is Jesus now?


    Hi Karmarie,

    At the Father's right hand.

    Ed J


    Is he returning again?

    #175859
    kejonn
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    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 31 2010,21:12)
    It doesn't just deny that Jesus died on the cross it explains that he didn't die on the cross because ALLAH saved him from death according to the prophecy that the Messiah would not rot in the grave. They certainly did plot to Kill the Messiah but ALLAH also plotted and HE is the best at those who make plans.

    According to the NT, Lazarus didn't rot in his grave either, and Jesus supposedly revived him.

    But the fact is, all of the NT claims that Jesus did indeed die. No death, no resurrection, no Christianity. I thought you said Christians who believed this were fine?

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    Islam is Christianity is Judaism when practiced properly.

    What is the proper way to practice any of it? Stop eating pork? Stop eating lobster? Wait, Peter said it was not about what went in, but what went out.

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    Pay attention Judaism is the name of the tribe of Judah of those that remained faithful to the Torah, Christianity is the following of the Jewish Messiah whom we call Jesus Christ and Islam is both the religion of Abraham that became Judaism and is the religion of Christians that follow Christ and submit to God as Christ did. Islam is submission to God in peace.


    But according to Christianity, this Jewish messiah died. According to Islam, he didn't. Not exactly an agreement going on here.

    1Co 15:3  For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received: that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the Scriptures,
    1Co 15:4  that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day in accordance with the Scriptures,

    #175942
    Stu
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 02 2010,06:27)

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    Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 01 2010,07:41)
    B'hai is similar to what I'm saying as speaking about progressive revelation however B'hai is not really a new religion but is based in Islam and should have simply not become a sect as that is prohibited.


    How can it be 'prohibited' if there is no compulsion in religion?

    Stuart


    We are talking about two different things here, There is no compulsion in religion and ultimately religion itself should be unified with no sects or divisions.


    So why did you use the word 'prohibited' then?

    Stuart

    #175971
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Stu @ Feb. 06 2010,00:10)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 02 2010,06:27)

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    Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 01 2010,07:41)
    B'hai is similar to what I'm saying as speaking about progressive revelation however B'hai is not really a new religion but is based in Islam and should have simply not become a sect as that is prohibited.


    How can it be 'prohibited' if there is no compulsion in religion?

    Stuart


    We are talking about two different things here, There is no compulsion in religion and ultimately religion itself should be unified with no sects or divisions.


    So why did you use the word 'prohibited' then?

    Stuart


    It is prohibited in order of unity, think “math”

    If I say 2+3=5 then to subtract 2 from 3 would be prohibited in that formula

    #175973
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (kejonn @ Feb. 05 2010,16:17)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 31 2010,21:12)
    It doesn't just deny that Jesus died on the cross it explains that he didn't die on the cross because ALLAH saved him from death according to the prophecy that the Messiah would not rot in the grave. They certainly did plot to Kill the Messiah but ALLAH also plotted and HE is the best at those who make plans.

    According to the NT, Lazarus didn't rot in his grave either, and Jesus supposedly revived him.

    But the fact is, all of the NT claims that Jesus did indeed die. No death, no resurrection, no Christianity. I thought you said Christians who believed this were fine?

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    Islam is Christianity is Judaism when practiced properly.

    What is the proper way to practice any of it? Stop eating pork? Stop eating lobster? Wait, Peter said it was not about what went in, but what went out.

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    Pay attention Judaism is the name of the tribe of Judah of those that remained faithful to the Torah, Christianity is the following of the Jewish Messiah whom we call Jesus Christ and Islam is both the religion of Abraham that became Judaism and is the religion of Christians that follow Christ and submit to God as Christ did. Islam is submission to God in peace.


    But according to Christianity, this Jewish messiah died. According to Islam, he didn't. Not exactly an agreement going on here.

    1Co 15:3  For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received: that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the Scriptures,
    1Co 15:4  that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day in accordance with the Scriptures,


    Did you notice it says:

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    in accordance with the Scriptures

    I agree it does say that according to the scriptures but the scriptures can only be written according to what someone honestly believed to have happened or be true.

    If you read the gospels they will tell you that it is there account of what happened

    Luke 1
    1Forasmuch as many have taken in hand to set forth in order a declaration of those things which are most surely believed among us,

    But Jesus himself proves my point about these scriptures

    Luke 20:41-46 (King James Version)

    41And he said unto them, How say they that Christ is David's son?

    42And David himself saith in the book of Psalms, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,

    43Till I make thine enemies thy footstool.

    44David therefore calleth him Lord, how is he then his son?

    45Then in the audience of all the people he said unto his disciples,

    46Beware of the scribes, which desire to walk in long robes, and love greetings in the markets, and the highest seats in the synagogues, and the chief rooms at feasts;

    Jesus in the scriptures is called son of David, Jesus inside the same scriptures say that the scriptures are not to be taken simply at face value but to be studied because the nature of the scribes.

    The scribes have always tried to please those in the best position so there work must be studied to be understood.

    #175991
    Stu
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 06 2010,05:19)

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    Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 01 2010,07:41)
    B'hai is similar to what I'm saying as speaking about progressive revelation however B'hai is not really a new religion but is based in Islam and should have simply not become a sect as that is prohibited.


    How can it be 'prohibited' if there is no compulsion in religion?

    Stuart


    We are talking about two different things here, There is no compulsion in religion and ultimately religion itself should be unified with no sects or divisions.


    So why did you use the word 'prohibited' then?

    Stuart


    It is prohibited in order of unity, think “math”

    If I say 2+3=5 then to subtract 2 from 3 would be prohibited in that formula


    But who claims that unity is a requirement? Maths is a tool, not an imam.

    Stuart

    #176001
    bodhitharta
    Participant

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    Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 01 2010,07:41)
    B'hai is similar to what I'm saying as speaking about progressive revelation however B'hai is not really a new religion but is based in Islam and should have simply not become a sect as that is prohibited.


    How can it be 'prohibited' if there is no compulsion in religion?

    Stuart


    We are talking about two different things here, There is no compulsion in religion and ultimately religion itself should be unified with no sects or divisions.


    So why did you use the word 'prohibited' then?

    Stuart


    It is prohibited in order of unity, think “math”

    If I say 2+3=5 then to subtract 2 from 3 would be prohibited in that formula


    But who claims that unity is a requirement?  Maths is a tool, not an imam.

    Stuart


    you don't even like division

    #176038
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 06 2010,09:27)
    you don't even like division


    your god likes division

    Luke12:51: Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:
    .

    #176040
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 06 2010,13:09)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 06 2010,09:27)
    you don't even like division


    your god likes division

    Luke12:51: Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:
    .


    Are you saying that Jesus is Satan, ED?

    Jesus is the one talking in that verse.

    #176048
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 05 2010,15:05)

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    What is Satan's title again?


    Job 40:4: Behold, I am vile; what shall I answer thee?  I will lay mine hand upon my mouth.
    vile means evil, 'satan is vile'!

    1 Timothy 1:15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation,
    that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

    you don't even like division


    your god likes division

    Luke12:51: Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:
    .


    Jesus is the one talking in that verse.


    Is not 'i am' your god?

    #176054
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 06 2010,13:43)

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    What is Satan's title again?


    Job 40:4: Behold, I am vile; what shall I answer thee?  I will lay mine hand upon my mouth.
    vile means evil, 'satan is vile'!

    1 Timothy 1:15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation,
    that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

    you don't even like division


    your god likes division

    Luke12:51: Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:
    .


    Jesus is the one talking in that verse.


    Is not 'i am' your god?


    Actually there is only ONE GOD and HE is THE GOD/ALLAH/YHVH/YHWH/JEHOVAH/YAHWEH/ELOHIM…

    You are deep in your own homemade mysticism. How many people do you think are named ED in the world?

    I think yu saw your name in the bible and just lost it, What about all the people name David or Elijah, Michael or Aaron…etc? Should women named Mary feel especially chosen?

    #176067
    Ed J
    Participant

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    What is Satan's title again?


    Job 40:4: Behold, I am vile; what shall I answer thee?  I will lay mine hand upon my mouth.
    vile means evil, 'satan is vile'!

    1 Timothy 1:15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation,
    that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

    you don't even like division


    your god likes division

    Luke12:51: Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:
    .


    Jesus is the one talking in that verse.


    Is not 'i am' your god?


    You dodged my question: is 'i am' your god?

    #176076
    karmarie
    Participant

    I still dont get you on that Ed.

    If the answer was – yes 'i am' is my God, you would say..?

    #176145
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (karmarie @ Feb. 06 2010,20:35)
    I still dont get you on that Ed.

    If the answer was – yes 'i am' is my God, you would say..?


    He would say that “Satan” is your God but he would be wrong because “I am” is a statement that can be applied with anyone including God.

    He is just really trying to say that in the Bible when Moses asks who shall I say has sent me the verse says:

    And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
    Exodus 3:13-15

    ED is simply saying that this is a mistranslation and should read:

    I will be what I will be (or something in that order) and he is right but he is still lacking the point of him being right

    This should explian thoroughly

    ———–

    Commentary on the passage in Exodus 3:13-15.

    vs. 13] And Moses said unto G-d: “Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel and shall say unto them, 'The G-d of your fathers hath sent me unto you,' and they shall say to me, 'What is his name?' what shall I say unto them?”

    [Comm.] Here marks the beginning of all instruction on what is in a name. A name reveals a person's essence. It is the same with G-d. His name reveals to man His essence. If we were to look carefully at what transpired here, in these verses, the scripture begins by Moses asking to know G-d's name. But how does G-d answer Moses in return?

    vs. 14] And G-d said unto Moses, “I shall be that which I shall be” (Heb. אהיה אשר אהיה). And he said, “Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel , 'I shall be (Heb. אהיה) hath sent me unto you.' “

    [Comm.] According to the Zohar (Section “Acharei Mos”), the first words, “I shall be,” or what is written in Hebrew as אהיה, is a generalization, which words are immediately followed by the specification, “that which I shall be.” Meaning, whatever name G-d is called by (whatever that might be, since it is now only an unknown identity and presumed name), that name will become his essence. Hence: “that which I shall be” (albeit, everything at this point is still ambiguous). This is what was implied by the second set of words, “that which I shall be,” or what is written in Hebrew as אשר אהיה, and, as noted, is a specified statement to what began as a general statement.

    The Greek LXX has translated אהיה אשר אהיה in Exo. 3:14 as meaning, “I am the one being” (Gr. εγώ είμι ό ών), or “I am the (one) who (is).” Bear in mind here that the Greek text is subjected to the Hebrew text, and not vice-versa, for since the Greek LXX comes to describe what was written in the Hebrew original, it cannot be better than the Hebrew original. As we all know, sometimes, when words are translated from one language into another, the sheer force and beauty of the original language is lost in the translation. In our Greek translation, unfortunately, nowhere can it be understood by the words “I am the one being” that in the original Hebrew language there was written there a generalization followed by a specification, only to disclose afterwards what that specification really is, viz. the Tetragammaton (that ineffable name which we are not permitted to utter, neither copy down in writing). Nor can it be known by the English (KJV: I am that I am) that the original Hebrew was written first with a generalization followed by a specification, only then to disclose once and for all what was implied by that specification!

    vs. 15] And G-d said moreover unto Moses, “Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, 'The LO-RD G-d of your fathers, the G-d of Abraham, the G-d of Isaac, and the G-d of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name forever, and this is my memorial unto all generations.' “

    [Comm.] G-d gradually led up to his name, but in the meantime, disclosed unto Moses that a name is a reflection of a thing's essence, saying “I shall be” (erroneously translated as “I am”). The long awaited answer finally arrives. G-d's name is the LO-RD (i.e., the Tetragrammaton), which is also his essence: viz., “He that was, who is, and who is to be,” or in other words, “he who is eternal;” or, in the words of the Targum Yerushlami (ibid.): “He that said to the world “to be,” and the world “was.” (Meaning, the words “to be” and “was,” even though said here in relation to the creation, are still the essence of his name).

    Note: Hebrew is called the Holy Tongue because of its being the language given to the first man, as also the language with which G-d conversed with the fathers. It was not in vain that, in Hebrew, a horse is called “sus” (סוס) because it is inclined to be of a joyous and gay disposition (Heb. שָׂשׂ); a dog is called “caleb” (כלב) because it is inclined to be “all heart” (Heb. כולו לב); a vulture is called “nesher” because of its appearance, which seems to have “shed its feathers” (Heb. נֹשֶׁר); man is called “adam” because he was made from the red earth (Heb. אדמה), etc. etc.

    http://www.globalyeshiva.com/forum….-3-1315
    ———————————-

    I will also like to add that God always expresses his Nature because no one named God like we are named for instance:

    Exodus 34:5-7 (King James Version)

    5And the LORD descended in the cloud, and stood with him there, and proclaimed the name of the LORD.

    6And the LORD passed by before him, and proclaimed, The LORD, The LORD God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abundant in goodness and truth,

    7Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear the guilty; visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children's children, unto the third and to the fourth generation.

    Now you can see from that long proclamation, God is expressing HIS nature.

    Now as far as ED goes him saying that “I am” is Satan he may just mean false interpretation is Satanic or something like that.

    Now the statement “I am” has misled many because in the NT Jesus makes the statement before Abraham was “I am” and many trinitarians and oneness believers will point to that and say that Jesus is saying he is God when in fact Jesus statement has nothing to do with Exodus 3:14-15

    From this view I would agree with ED but I have already stated that the scriptures are corrupted and hence clarity comes with The Quran which ED still stubbornly rejects

    #176146
    bodhitharta
    Participant

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    What is Satan's title again?


    Job 40:4: Behold, I am vile; what shall I answer thee?  I will lay mine hand upon my mouth.
    vile means evil, 'satan is vile'!

    1 Timothy 1:15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation,
    that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

    you don't even like division


    your god likes division

    Luke12:51: Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:
    .


    Jesus is the one talking in that verse.


    Is not 'i am' your god?


    You dodged my question: is 'i am' your god?


    What does that mean?

    #176181
    Ed J
    Participant

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    What is Satan's title again?


    Job 40:4: Behold, I am vile; what shall I answer thee?  I will lay mine hand upon my mouth.
    vile means evil, 'satan is vile'!

    1 Timothy 1:15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation,
    that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

    you don't even like division


    your god likes division

    Luke12:51: Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:
    .


    Jesus is the one talking in that verse.


    Is not 'i am' your god?


    You dodged my question: is 'i am' your god?


    What does that mean?


    Why do you continue to dodge my question?

    #176199
    bodhitharta
    Participant

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    What is Satan's title again?


    Job 40:4: Behold, I am vile; what shall I answer thee?  I will lay mine hand upon my mouth.
    vile means evil, 'satan is vile'!

    1 Timothy 1:15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation,
    that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

    you don't even like division


    your god likes division

    Luke12:51: Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:
    .


    Jesus is the one talking in that verse.


    Is not 'i am' your god?


    You dodged my question: is 'i am' your god?


    What does that mean?


    Why do you continue to dodge my question?


    I really don't wnow what you mean. How can two words be God?

    “I am” What or Who?

    #176202
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 07 2010,11:06)

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    Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 06 2010,09:27)

    What is Satan's title again?


    Job 40:4: Behold, I am vile; what shall I answer thee?  I will lay mine hand upon my mouth.
    vile means evil, 'satan is vile'!

    1 Timothy 1:15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation,
    that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

    you don't even like division


    your god likes division

    Luke12:51: Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:
    .


    Jesus is the one talking in that verse.


    Is not 'i am' your god?


    You dodged my question: is 'i am' your god?


    What does that mean?


    Why do you continue to dodge my question?


    I really don't wnow what you mean. How can two words be God?

    “I am” What or Who?


    Then quit labelingGODwith that 'title'=66…IN ANY SENTENCE STRUCTURE!

    #176208
    bodhitharta
    Participant

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    What is Satan's title again?


    Job 40:4: Behold, I am vile; what shall I answer thee?  I will lay mine hand upon my mouth.
    vile means evil, 'satan is vile'!

    1 Timothy 1:15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation,
    that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

    you don't even like division


    your god likes division

    Luke12:51: Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:
    .


    Jesus is the one talking in that verse.


    Is not 'i am' your god?


    You dodged my question: is 'i am' your god?


    What does that mean?


    Why do you continue to dodge my question?


    I really don't wnow what you mean. How can two words be God?

    “I am” What or Who?


    Then quit labelingGODwith that 'title'=66…IN ANY SENTENCE STRUCTURE!


    You just labeled God with the word “God” and that word is tainted and loaded with the fact it can be used in a plural form such as “gods” which there are none so why not use pure tongues such as Arabic “ALLAH” which means The God and there is no plural form or use YHVH with no pronunciation, however using YHVH you may cause some to profane the name of ALLAH so it is best to say ALLAH if you want to be pure.

    Hebrew is not a pure tongue anymore, Arabic is still a pure language

    #176218
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 07 2010,12:11)

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    Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 06 2010,09:27)

    What is Satan's title again?


    Job 40:4: Behold, I am vile; what shall I answer thee?  I will lay mine hand upon my mouth.
    vile means evil, 'satan is vile'!

    1 Timothy 1:15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation,
    that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

    you don't even like division


    your god likes division

    Luke12:51: Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:
    .


    Jesus is the one talking in that verse.


    Is not 'i am' your god?


    You dodged my question: is 'i am' your god?


    What does that mean?


    Why do you continue to dodge my question?


    I really don't wnow what you mean. How can two words be God?

    “I am” What or Who?


    Then quit labelingGODwith that 'title'=66…IN ANY SENTENCE STRUCTURE!


    You just labeled God with the word “God” …or use YHVH with no pronunciation

    Hebrew is not a pure tongue


    YHVH is God's Name(יהוה) transliterated into English; transliterated means sounds(phonics).
    Prob.3:33: The 'curse'=66 of the LORD(YHVH) is in the house of the wicked: but he blesseth the habitation of the just.
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    allah=66 is a 'title'=66 NOT A NAME!
    2Cor.4:4 In whom the god(Guess who?) of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not
         lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

                      YHVH is GOD=117 YHVH is the Light=117

    יהוה is pronounced with its exact preciseness as “YÄ-hä-vā”; where ä sounds like that of the word “ah” and the other ā sounds
    like that of the vowel in the word “hay”. So when you see the tetragrammation YHVH, the proper pronunciation is YÄ-hä-vā.
    (Psalm 45:17) This point is made because the correct pronunciation was thought to be lost, which led only to translators’ interpretations.

    PSALM 117is[The Bible's Center], AND the “[smallest chapter]” of the [LARGEST BOOK]!

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of…
    117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD)YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! (Psalm 45:17)
    Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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