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  • #221955
    bodhitharta
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    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2010,22:00)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 30 2010,03:33)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2010,15:23)
    bod

    you seems to not know were the truth lays ,we all have to go to Christ the son of God to be saved from our sins.

    Muhammad will not save himself and no body else,

    Jn 3:19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.
    Jn 3:20 Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed.
    Jn 3:21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God.”

    THE TRUTH BEING THE TRUTH OF JEHOVAH GOD AND THE LIGHT BEING THE LIGHT OF CHRIST,

    ALL RELIGION WHO DO NOT PERFORM IN THAT DIRECTION ARE IN THE DARK.

    Pierre


    God saves through whomever or whatever means HE chooses are you now giving God guidance as to what HE can and cannot do?


    bod

    you reject the scriptures .you are Muslim.

    scriptures are not for you ,

    you are but a sceptic :D  :D

    Pierre


    The scriptures are to be studied, most things you seem to understand about them is only what you have heard or have been taught. I have studied for over 20 years.

    You don't see how every good Christian is a Muslim because you don't know what a Muslim is but even every good Jew is a Muslim.

    You won't understand though because you don't even want to understand

    #221962
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 30 2010,12:16)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2010,22:00)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 30 2010,03:33)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2010,15:23)
    bod

    you seems to not know were the truth lays ,we all have to go to Christ the son of God to be saved from our sins.

    Muhammad will not save himself and no body else,

    Jn 3:19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.
    Jn 3:20 Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed.
    Jn 3:21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God.”

    THE TRUTH BEING THE TRUTH OF JEHOVAH GOD AND THE LIGHT BEING THE LIGHT OF CHRIST,

    ALL RELIGION WHO DO NOT PERFORM IN THAT DIRECTION ARE IN THE DARK.

    Pierre


    God saves through whomever or whatever means HE chooses are you now giving God guidance as to what HE can and cannot do?


    bod

    you reject the scriptures .you are Muslim.

    scriptures are not for you ,

    you are but a sceptic :D  :D

    Pierre


    The scriptures are to be studied, most things you seem to understand about them is only what you have heard or have been taught. I have studied for over 20 years.

    You don't see how every good Christian is a Muslim because you don't know what a Muslim is but even every good Jew is a Muslim.

    You won't understand though because you don't even want to understand


    bod

    it clearly appears that you are a Muslim 100% you are showing all the virtue of that religion and also have all the characteristics of it.

    your learning in the bible is limited to your views in the Koran,

    so you only see your own reflection in it,

    your deceit is to try to convinced other to become like you,

    this is scary.

    Pierre

    #221986
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 30 2010,06:20)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 30 2010,12:16)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2010,22:00)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 30 2010,03:33)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2010,15:23)
    bod

    you seems to not know were the truth lays ,we all have to go to Christ the son of God to be saved from our sins.

    Muhammad will not save himself and no body else,

    Jn 3:19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.
    Jn 3:20 Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed.
    Jn 3:21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God.”

    THE TRUTH BEING THE TRUTH OF JEHOVAH GOD AND THE LIGHT BEING THE LIGHT OF CHRIST,

    ALL RELIGION WHO DO NOT PERFORM IN THAT DIRECTION ARE IN THE DARK.

    Pierre


    God saves through whomever or whatever means HE chooses are you now giving God guidance as to what HE can and cannot do?


    bod

    you reject the scriptures .you are Muslim.

    scriptures are not for you ,

    you are but a sceptic :D  :D

    Pierre


    The scriptures are to be studied, most things you seem to understand about them is only what you have heard or have been taught. I have studied for over 20 years.

    You don't see how every good Christian is a Muslim because you don't know what a Muslim is but even every good Jew is a Muslim.

    You won't understand though because you don't even want to understand


    bod

    it clearly appears that you are a Muslim 100% you are showing all the virtue of that religion and also have all the characteristics of it.

    your learning in the bible is limited to your views in the Koran,

    so you only see your own reflection in it,

    your deceit is to try to convinced other to become like you,

    this is scary.

    Pierre


    No, I have studied the Bible for 20 years and the Quran has confirmed what I had already learned and or suspected to be true.

    I am more than ready to learn anything and I am more than willing to share what I have learned, I have said over and over let's not just shout out assertions but instead let's present our cases in a proper manner

    #222016
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 30 2010,16:31)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 30 2010,06:20)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 30 2010,12:16)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2010,22:00)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 30 2010,03:33)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2010,15:23)
    bod

    you seems to not know were the truth lays ,we all have to go to Christ the son of God to be saved from our sins.

    Muhammad will not save himself and no body else,

    Jn 3:19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.
    Jn 3:20 Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed.
    Jn 3:21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God.”

    THE TRUTH BEING THE TRUTH OF JEHOVAH GOD AND THE LIGHT BEING THE LIGHT OF CHRIST,

    ALL RELIGION WHO DO NOT PERFORM IN THAT DIRECTION ARE IN THE DARK.

    Pierre


    God saves through whomever or whatever means HE chooses are you now giving God guidance as to what HE can and cannot do?


    bod

    you reject the scriptures .you are Muslim.

    scriptures are not for you ,

    you are but a sceptic :D  :D

    Pierre


    The scriptures are to be studied, most things you seem to understand about them is only what you have heard or have been taught. I have studied for over 20 years.

    You don't see how every good Christian is a Muslim because you don't know what a Muslim is but even every good Jew is a Muslim.

    You won't understand though because you don't even want to understand


    bod

    it clearly appears that you are a Muslim 100% you are showing all the virtue of that religion and also have all the characteristics of it.

    your learning in the bible is limited to your views in the Koran,

    so you only see your own reflection in it,

    your deceit is to try to convinced other to become like you,

    this is scary.

    Pierre


    No, I have studied the Bible for 20 years and the Quran has confirmed what I had already learned and or suspected to be true.

    I am more than ready to learn anything and I am more than willing to share what I have learned, I have said over and over let's not just shout out assertions but instead let's present our cases in a proper manner


    bod

    you say that you have been study the word of God for 20 years,and the only thing you came up with is becoming a Muslim,

    so i assume that your views in scriptures are not very fulfilling
    since you have left the truth for the pagan Koran,

    and remember THE BIBLE IS THE WORD OF GOD.

    AND THE KORAN ARE THE WORDS OF A MAN CALLED MUHAMMAD,A MERE MAN,WITH MURDERS AND BLOOD ON HIS HANDS,

    IT IS CHRIST WHO IS THE TRUE SHEPHERD ,THERE IS NO ONE ELSE,BUT IN 20 YEARS OF STUDY THE SCRIPTURES YOU SHOULD AT THE LEAST LEARN THAT MUTCH.

    and do not mix up a Jew is a Jew,and a Christian is a Christian,
    and so it is with a Muslim the are Muslims.no connection between them,

    only in your mind of confusion,bananas ,oranges.apples ect are what they are,can not mix them or you end up with a fruit salad,

    and so lies and truth will be mix and all is lost.

    for your info i have study most of the main world religions,

    Pierre

    Pierre

    #222021
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 30 2010,11:59)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 30 2010,16:31)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 30 2010,06:20)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 30 2010,12:16)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2010,22:00)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 30 2010,03:33)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2010,15:23)
    bod

    you seems to not know were the truth lays ,we all have to go to Christ the son of God to be saved from our sins.

    Muhammad will not save himself and no body else,

    Jn 3:19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.
    Jn 3:20 Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed.
    Jn 3:21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God.”

    THE TRUTH BEING THE TRUTH OF JEHOVAH GOD AND THE LIGHT BEING THE LIGHT OF CHRIST,

    ALL RELIGION WHO DO NOT PERFORM IN THAT DIRECTION ARE IN THE DARK.

    Pierre


    God saves through whomever or whatever means HE chooses are you now giving God guidance as to what HE can and cannot do?


    bod

    you reject the scriptures .you are Muslim.

    scriptures are not for you ,

    you are but a sceptic :D  :D

    Pierre


    The scriptures are to be studied, most things you seem to understand about them is only what you have heard or have been taught. I have studied for over 20 years.

    You don't see how every good Christian is a Muslim because you don't know what a Muslim is but even every good Jew is a Muslim.

    You won't understand though because you don't even want to understand


    bod

    it clearly appears that you are a Muslim 100% you are showing all the virtue of that religion and also have all the characteristics of it.

    your learning in the bible is limited to your views in the Koran,

    so you only see your own reflection in it,

    your deceit is to try to convinced other to become like you,

    this is scary.

    Pierre


    No, I have studied the Bible for 20 years and the Quran has confirmed what I had already learned and or suspected to be true.

    I am more than ready to learn anything and I am more than willing to share what I have learned, I have said over and over let's not just shout out assertions but instead let's present our cases in a proper manner


    bod

    you say that you have been study the word of God for 20 years,and the only thing you came up with is becoming a Muslim,

    so i assume that your views in scriptures are not very fulfilling
    since you have left the truth for the pagan Koran,

    and remember THE BIBLE IS THE WORD OF GOD.

    AND THE KORAN ARE THE WORDS OF A MAN CALLED MUHAMMAD,A MERE MAN,WITH MURDERS AND BLOOD ON HIS HANDS,

    IT IS CHRIST WHO IS THE TRUE SHEPHERD ,THERE IS NO ONE ELSE,BUT IN 20 YEARS OF STUDY THE SCRIPTURES YOU SHOULD AT THE LEAST LEARN THAT MUTCH.

    and do not mix up a Jew is a Jew,and a Christian is a Christian,
    and so it is with a Muslim the are Muslims.no connection between them,

    only in your mind of confusion,bananas ,oranges.apples ect are what they are,can not mix them or you end up with a fruit salad,

    and so lies and truth will be mix and all is lost.

    for your info i have study most of the main world religions,

    Pierre

    Pierre


    I have to ask you is your most important reason to debate to try to simply disagree no matter what or do you want to actually seriously discuss these matters?

    I asked you about this verse:

    But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
    Matthew 15:23-25

    I asked you if this was 100% True and you did not answer will you please answer now is what Jesus saying here True or False?

    I also asked you how is the Bible the Word of God and If so why isn't the Quran?

    And my third question was which Bible/Canon is the word of God the one with 66 books, 73 books or the one with over 80 books. I asked which One and you didn't answer.

    If you want a serious discussion answer those questions just saying you don't like Islam is not a discussion it is a statement of opinion and that's okay if that's the way you feel but if you want an honest discussion you'll have to do better than that.

    #222027
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Facts about the Ethiopian Bible

    The Old Testament• The King James bible contains 39 books in the old testament. The Ethiopian bible contains a total of 51 books. The only book of the old testament found in the King James bible, which is not in the Ethiopian bible is the book of Lamentations. There are however 13 books in the Ethiopian bible which are not to be found in the King James bible. It is not surprising the Ethiopian bible contains almost the entire old testament from the King James bible, since Ethiopia had a very strong Jewish presence. The books of the old testament which appear in the Ethiopian bible but not the King James are:

    Jubilee
    Enoch
    2 Ezra
    Ezra Sutuel
    Tobit
    Judith
    1 Maccabees
    2 Maccabees
    3 Maccabees
    Tegsats
    Book of Joshua the son of Sirac
    The book of Josephas the son of Bengorion
    New Testament• The Ethiopian new testament contains the same 27 books of the new testament from Matthew through the book of Revelation. Unlike the King James bible, however, the Ethiopian bible continues past Revelations with an additional eight books. These books include;
    Sirate Tsion (the book of order)
    Tizaz (the book of Herald)
    Abtilis
    The 1st book of Dominos
    The 2nd book of Dominos
    The book of Clement
    Didascalia
    Canon of the Ethiopian Church• While many of the books found in the old testament of the Ethiopian bible are absent in the King James version, there are some interesting facts surrounding these books. One such example are the books of Enoch and Jubilee which are ancient Jewish texts. While they do not appear in the old testament of the King James bible, they are quoted in the King James new testament. Ethiopian scripture is based on some of the most ancient transcripts and records in existence, which gives the Ethiopian bible a broader content than any other version of the bible, and some feel a truer and more complete telling of the word of God.

    Read more: What Is the Ethiopian Bible? | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/about_5453706_ethio … z13nrGeUZ1

    #222048
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 30 2010,19:58)
    Facts about the Ethiopian Bible

    The Old Testament• The King James bible contains 39 books in the old testament. The Ethiopian bible contains a total of 51 books. The only book of the old testament found in the King James bible, which is not in the Ethiopian bible is the book of Lamentations. There are however 13 books in the Ethiopian bible which are not to be found in the King James bible. It is not surprising the Ethiopian bible contains almost the entire old testament from the King James bible, since Ethiopia had a very strong Jewish presence. The books of the old testament which appear in the Ethiopian bible but not the King James are:

    Jubilee
    Enoch
    2 Ezra
    Ezra Sutuel
    Tobit
    Judith
    1 Maccabees
    2 Maccabees
    3 Maccabees
    Tegsats
    Book of Joshua the son of Sirac
    The book of Josephas the son of Bengorion
    New Testament• The Ethiopian new testament contains the same 27 books of the new testament from Matthew through the book of Revelation. Unlike the King James bible, however, the Ethiopian bible continues past Revelations with an additional eight books. These books include;
    Sirate Tsion (the book of order)
    Tizaz (the book of Herald)
    Abtilis
    The 1st book of Dominos
    The 2nd book of Dominos
    The book of Clement
    Didascalia
    Canon of the Ethiopian Church• While many of the books found in the old testament of the Ethiopian bible are absent in the King James version, there are some interesting facts surrounding these books. One such example are the books of Enoch and Jubilee which are ancient Jewish texts. While they do not appear in the old testament of the King James bible, they are quoted in the King James new testament. Ethiopian scripture is based on some of the most ancient transcripts and records in existence, which gives the Ethiopian bible a broader content than any other version of the bible, and some feel a truer and more complete telling of the word of God.

    Read more: What Is the Ethiopian Bible? | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/about_5453706_ethio … z13nrGeUZ1


    bod

    yea first the Koran now false men made books,

    no wander you got weird ideas ,

    you are totaly carnal,no concept of what is spiritual,

    Pierre

    #222065
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 30 2010,13:43)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 30 2010,19:58)
    Facts about the Ethiopian Bible

    The Old Testament• The King James bible contains 39 books in the old testament. The Ethiopian bible contains a total of 51 books. The only book of the old testament found in the King James bible, which is not in the Ethiopian bible is the book of Lamentations. There are however 13 books in the Ethiopian bible which are not to be found in the King James bible. It is not surprising the Ethiopian bible contains almost the entire old testament from the King James bible, since Ethiopia had a very strong Jewish presence. The books of the old testament which appear in the Ethiopian bible but not the King James are:

    Jubilee
    Enoch
    2 Ezra
    Ezra Sutuel
    Tobit
    Judith
    1 Maccabees
    2 Maccabees
    3 Maccabees
    Tegsats
    Book of Joshua the son of Sirac
    The book of Josephas the son of Bengorion
    New Testament• The Ethiopian new testament contains the same 27 books of the new testament from Matthew through the book of Revelation. Unlike the King James bible, however, the Ethiopian bible continues past Revelations with an additional eight books. These books include;
    Sirate Tsion (the book of order)
    Tizaz (the book of Herald)
    Abtilis
    The 1st book of Dominos
    The 2nd book of Dominos
    The book of Clement
    Didascalia
    Canon of the Ethiopian Church• While many of the books found in the old testament of the Ethiopian bible are absent in the King James version, there are some interesting facts surrounding these books. One such example are the books of Enoch and Jubilee which are ancient Jewish texts. While they do not appear in the old testament of the King James bible, they are quoted in the King James new testament. Ethiopian scripture is based on some of the most ancient transcripts and records in existence, which gives the Ethiopian bible a broader content than any other version of the bible, and some feel a truer and more complete telling of the word of God.

    Read more: What Is the Ethiopian Bible? | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/about_5453706_ethio … z13nrGeUZ1


    bod

    yea first the Koran now false men made books,

    no wander you got weird ideas ,

    you are totaly carnal,no concept of what is spiritual,

    Pierre


    So you don't accept the entire Bible? You accept the one you like?

    #222090
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 30 2010,21:35)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 30 2010,13:43)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 30 2010,19:58)
    Facts about the Ethiopian Bible

    The Old Testament• The King James bible contains 39 books in the old testament. The Ethiopian bible contains a total of 51 books. The only book of the old testament found in the King James bible, which is not in the Ethiopian bible is the book of Lamentations. There are however 13 books in the Ethiopian bible which are not to be found in the King James bible. It is not surprising the Ethiopian bible contains almost the entire old testament from the King James bible, since Ethiopia had a very strong Jewish presence. The books of the old testament which appear in the Ethiopian bible but not the King James are:

    Jubilee
    Enoch
    2 Ezra
    Ezra Sutuel
    Tobit
    Judith
    1 Maccabees
    2 Maccabees
    3 Maccabees
    Tegsats
    Book of Joshua the son of Sirac
    The book of Josephas the son of Bengorion
    New Testament• The Ethiopian new testament contains the same 27 books of the new testament from Matthew through the book of Revelation. Unlike the King James bible, however, the Ethiopian bible continues past Revelations with an additional eight books. These books include;
    Sirate Tsion (the book of order)
    Tizaz (the book of Herald)
    Abtilis
    The 1st book of Dominos
    The 2nd book of Dominos
    The book of Clement
    Didascalia
    Canon of the Ethiopian Church• While many of the books found in the old testament of the Ethiopian bible are absent in the King James version, there are some interesting facts surrounding these books. One such example are the books of Enoch and Jubilee which are ancient Jewish texts. While they do not appear in the old testament of the King James bible, they are quoted in the King James new testament. Ethiopian scripture is based on some of the most ancient transcripts and records in existence, which gives the Ethiopian bible a broader content than any other version of the bible, and some feel a truer and more complete telling of the word of God.

    Read more: What Is the Ethiopian Bible? | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/about_5453706_ethio … z13nrGeUZ1


    bod

    yea first the Koran now false men made books,

    no wander you got weird ideas ,

    you are totaly carnal,no concept of what is spiritual,

    Pierre


    So you don't accept the entire Bible? You accept the one you like?


    bod

    you know you study the bible for 20 years,???

    i used to have a carpenter working for me and the day i hired him he told me he has 30 years experience in the trade,so i hired him and wen i sew him work i fired him the next day because i realise he only ad one year experience repeated 30 times.

    i believe you are similar to that carpenter,

    you have no clue of anything at all ,

    Pierre

    #222112
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 30 2010,15:58)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 30 2010,21:35)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 30 2010,13:43)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 30 2010,19:58)
    Facts about the Ethiopian Bible

    The Old Testament• The King James bible contains 39 books in the old testament. The Ethiopian bible contains a total of 51 books. The only book of the old testament found in the King James bible, which is not in the Ethiopian bible is the book of Lamentations. There are however 13 books in the Ethiopian bible which are not to be found in the King James bible. It is not surprising the Ethiopian bible contains almost the entire old testament from the King James bible, since Ethiopia had a very strong Jewish presence. The books of the old testament which appear in the Ethiopian bible but not the King James are:

    Jubilee
    Enoch
    2 Ezra
    Ezra Sutuel
    Tobit
    Judith
    1 Maccabees
    2 Maccabees
    3 Maccabees
    Tegsats
    Book of Joshua the son of Sirac
    The book of Josephas the son of Bengorion
    New Testament• The Ethiopian new testament contains the same 27 books of the new testament from Matthew through the book of Revelation. Unlike the King James bible, however, the Ethiopian bible continues past Revelations with an additional eight books. These books include;
    Sirate Tsion (the book of order)
    Tizaz (the book of Herald)
    Abtilis
    The 1st book of Dominos
    The 2nd book of Dominos
    The book of Clement
    Didascalia
    Canon of the Ethiopian Church• While many of the books found in the old testament of the Ethiopian bible are absent in the King James version, there are some interesting facts surrounding these books. One such example are the books of Enoch and Jubilee which are ancient Jewish texts. While they do not appear in the old testament of the King James bible, they are quoted in the King James new testament. Ethiopian scripture is based on some of the most ancient transcripts and records in existence, which gives the Ethiopian bible a broader content than any other version of the bible, and some feel a truer and more complete telling of the word of God.

    Read more: What Is the Ethiopian Bible? | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/about_5453706_ethio … z13nrGeUZ1


    bod

    yea first the Koran now false men made books,

    no wander you got weird ideas ,

    you are totaly carnal,no concept of what is spiritual,

    Pierre


    So you don't accept the entire Bible? You accept the one you like?


    bod

    you know you study the bible for 20 years,???

    i used to have a carpenter working for me and the day i hired him he told me he has 30 years experience in the trade,so i hired him and wen i sew him work i fired him the next day because i realise he only ad one year experience repeated 30 times.

    i believe you are similar to that carpenter,

    you have no clue of anything at all ,

    Pierre


    Lol…. That was funny but it does not apply to me, why do you think I am wrong?

    #222116
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 30 2010,23:40)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 30 2010,15:58)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 30 2010,21:35)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 30 2010,13:43)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 30 2010,19:58)
    Facts about the Ethiopian Bible

    The Old Testament• The King James bible contains 39 books in the old testament. The Ethiopian bible contains a total of 51 books. The only book of the old testament found in the King James bible, which is not in the Ethiopian bible is the book of Lamentations. There are however 13 books in the Ethiopian bible which are not to be found in the King James bible. It is not surprising the Ethiopian bible contains almost the entire old testament from the King James bible, since Ethiopia had a very strong Jewish presence. The books of the old testament which appear in the Ethiopian bible but not the King James are:

    Jubilee
    Enoch
    2 Ezra
    Ezra Sutuel
    Tobit
    Judith
    1 Maccabees
    2 Maccabees
    3 Maccabees
    Tegsats
    Book of Joshua the son of Sirac
    The book of Josephas the son of Bengorion
    New Testament• The Ethiopian new testament contains the same 27 books of the new testament from Matthew through the book of Revelation. Unlike the King James bible, however, the Ethiopian bible continues past Revelations with an additional eight books. These books include;
    Sirate Tsion (the book of order)
    Tizaz (the book of Herald)
    Abtilis
    The 1st book of Dominos
    The 2nd book of Dominos
    The book of Clement
    Didascalia
    Canon of the Ethiopian Church• While many of the books found in the old testament of the Ethiopian bible are absent in the King James version, there are some interesting facts surrounding these books. One such example are the books of Enoch and Jubilee which are ancient Jewish texts. While they do not appear in the old testament of the King James bible, they are quoted in the King James new testament. Ethiopian scripture is based on some of the most ancient transcripts and records in existence, which gives the Ethiopian bible a broader content than any other version of the bible, and some feel a truer and more complete telling of the word of God.

    Read more: What Is the Ethiopian Bible? | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/about_5453706_ethio … z13nrGeUZ1


    bod

    yea first the Koran now false men made books,

    no wander you got weird ideas ,

    you are totaly carnal,no concept of what is spiritual,

    Pierre


    So you don't accept the entire Bible? You accept the one you like?


    bod

    you know you study the bible for 20 years,???

    i used to have a carpenter working for me and the day i hired him he told me he has 30 years experience in the trade,so i hired him and wen i sew him work i fired him the next day because i realise he only ad one year experience repeated 30 times.

    i believe you are similar to that carpenter,

    you have no clue of anything at all ,

    Pierre


    Lol…. That was funny but it does not apply to me, why do you think I am wrong?


    bod

    until now you have not show me any knowledge in scriptures,not even history of the bible,

    what did you learn in 20 years ???

    Pierre

    #222148
    bodhitharta
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    Facts about the Ethiopian Bible

    The Old Testament• The King James bible contains 39 books in the old testament. The Ethiopian bible contains a total of 51 books. The only book of the old testament found in the King James bible, which is not in the Ethiopian bible is the book of Lamentations. There are however 13 books in the Ethiopian bible which are not to be found in the King James bible. It is not surprising the Ethiopian bible contains almost the entire old testament from the King James bible, since Ethiopia had a very strong Jewish presence. The books of the old testament which appear in the Ethiopian bible but not the King James are:

    Jubilee
    Enoch
    2 Ezra
    Ezra Sutuel
    Tobit
    Judith
    1 Maccabees
    2 Maccabees
    3 Maccabees
    Tegsats
    Book of Joshua the son of Sirac
    The book of Josephas the son of Bengorion
    New Testament• The Ethiopian new testament contains the same 27 books of the new testament from Matthew through the book of Revelation. Unlike the King James bible, however, the Ethiopian bible continues past Revelations with an additional eight books. These books include;
    Sirate Tsion (the book of order)
    Tizaz (the book of Herald)
    Abtilis
    The 1st book of Dominos
    The 2nd book of Dominos
    The book of Clement
    Didascalia
    Canon of the Ethiopian Church• While many of the books found in the old testament of the Ethiopian bible are absent in the King James version, there are some interesting facts surrounding these books. One such example are the books of Enoch and Jubilee which are ancient Jewish texts. While they do not appear in the old testament of the King James bible, they are quoted in the King James new testament. Ethiopian scripture is based on some of the most ancient transcripts and records in existence, which gives the Ethiopian bible a broader content than any other version of the bible, and some feel a truer and more complete telling of the word of God.

    Read more: What Is the Ethiopian Bible? | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/about_5453706_ethio … z13nrGeUZ1


    bod

    yea first the Koran now false men made books,

    no wander you got weird ideas ,

    you are totaly carnal,no concept of what is spiritual,

    Pierre


    So you don't accept the entire Bible? You accept the one you like?


    bod

    you know you study the bible for 20 years,???

    i used to have a carpenter working for me and the day i hired him he told me he has 30 years experience in the trade,so i hired him and wen i sew him work i fired him the next day because i realise he only ad one year experience repeated 30 times.

    i believe you are similar to that carpenter,

    you have no clue of anything at all ,

    Pierre


    Lol…. That was funny but it does not apply to me, why do you think I am wrong?


    bod

    until now you have not show me any knowledge in scriptures,not even history of the bible,

    what did you learn in 20 years ???

    Pierre


    So the Ethiopian Bible with the oldest Canon in the world is False and the Catholic Bible with its 73 books is False?

    Wow! You don't believe in much do you?

    #222176
    terraricca
    Participant

    bod

    you say;So the Ethiopian Bible with the oldest Canon in the world is False and the Catholic Bible with its 73 books is False?

    Wow! You don't believe in much do you?

    ——————————–

    answer;;the scriptures are officially recognized with 66 books in it,and if you have study it you should know why,

    and the Koran will never be accepted as the written word of Jehovah God, WHY;Mk 16:16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.
    Mk 16:17 And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues;

    Jn 4:21 Jesus declared, “Believe me, woman, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem
    Jn 4:23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks.
    Jn 4:24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth.”

    Jn 5:46 If you believed Moses, you would believe me, for he wrote about me.
    Jn 5:47 But since you do not believe what he wrote, how are you going to believe what I say?”

    Jn 10:26 but you do not believe because you are not my sheep.

    Jn 13:19 “I am telling you now before it happens, so that when it does happen you will believe that I am He.(CHRIST)

    Jn 17:20 “My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message,
    Jn 17:21 that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me.

    THIS IS THE TRUE CHRIST OF JEHOVAH GOD,

    THE SCRIPTURES NEVER SAY THAT MUHAMMAD IS A PROPHET ONLY MUHAMMAD DID SAY THAT,

    Pierre

    #222220
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 31 2010,03:51)
    bod

    you say;So the Ethiopian Bible with the oldest Canon in the world is False and the Catholic Bible with its 73 books is False?

    Wow! You don't believe in much do you?

    ——————————–

    answer;;the scriptures are officially recognized with 66 books in it,and if you have study it you should know why,

    and the Koran will never be accepted as the written word of Jehovah God, WHY;Mk 16:16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.
    Mk 16:17 And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues;

    Jn 4:21 Jesus declared, “Believe me, woman, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem
    Jn 4:23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks.
    Jn 4:24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth.”

    Jn 5:46 If you believed Moses, you would believe me, for he wrote about me.
    Jn 5:47 But since you do not believe what he wrote, how are you going to believe what I say?”

    Jn 10:26 but you do not believe because you are not my sheep.

    Jn 13:19 “I am telling you now before it happens, so that when it does happen you will believe that I am He.(CHRIST)

    Jn 17:20 “My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message,
    Jn 17:21 that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me.

    THIS IS THE TRUE CHRIST OF JEHOVAH GOD,

    THE SCRIPTURES NEVER SAY THAT MUHAMMAD IS A PROPHET ONLY MUHAMMAD DID SAY THAT,

    Pierre


    Behold! the angels said: “O Mary! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be christ Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honour in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to Allah.
    ( سورة آل عمران , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #45)

    O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) an apostle of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His apostles. Say not “Trinity” : desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah. Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs.
    ( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #171)

    So we both agree that Jesus is the Christ but I have already told you that so would every Muslim.

    Muslims do not believe that Christ=God and the bible doesn't teach that Christ is God

    Muslims do not believe that God is Triune or 3 in 1 nor does the Bible teach these things.

    Now when you say the scriptures are officially recognized with 66 books I must ask officially recognized by who?

    #222226
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 31 2010,13:11)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 31 2010,03:51)
    bod

    you say;So the Ethiopian Bible with the oldest Canon in the world is False and the Catholic Bible with its 73 books is False?

    Wow! You don't believe in much do you?

    ——————————–

    answer;;the scriptures are officially recognized with 66 books in it,and if you have study it you should know why,

    and the Koran will never be accepted as the written word of Jehovah God, WHY;Mk 16:16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.
    Mk 16:17 And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues;

    Jn 4:21 Jesus declared, “Believe me, woman, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem
    Jn 4:23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks.
    Jn 4:24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth.”

    Jn 5:46 If you believed Moses, you would believe me, for he wrote about me.
    Jn 5:47 But since you do not believe what he wrote, how are you going to believe what I say?”

    Jn 10:26 but you do not believe because you are not my sheep.

    Jn 13:19 “I am telling you now before it happens, so that when it does happen you will believe that I am He.(CHRIST)

    Jn 17:20 “My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message,
    Jn 17:21 that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me.

    THIS IS THE TRUE CHRIST OF JEHOVAH GOD,

    THE SCRIPTURES NEVER SAY THAT MUHAMMAD IS A PROPHET ONLY MUHAMMAD DID SAY THAT,

    Pierre


    Behold! the angels said: “O Mary! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be christ Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honour in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to Allah.  
    (  سورة آل عمران  , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #45)

    O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) an apostle of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His apostles. Say not “Trinity” : desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah. Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs.  
    (  سورة النساء  , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #171)

    So we both agree that Jesus is the Christ but I have already told you that so would every Muslim.

    Muslims do not believe that Christ=God and the bible doesn't teach that Christ is God

    Muslims do not believe that God is Triune or 3 in 1 nor does the Bible teach these things.

    Now when you say the scriptures are officially recognized  with 66 books I must ask officially recognized by who?


    bod

    the Koran does not offer any thing that is not already written in the word of God,

    Muhammad came in 600 AD Joseph Smith came 1830 AD

    both are false prophet,you are one of there prozelites,

    God the creator as nothing to do with them.
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    The Ethiopian Church claims its earliest origins from the royal official said to have been baptized by Philip the Evangelist (not to be confused with Philip the Apostle), one of the seven deacons:

    “Then the angel of the Lord said to Philip, Start out and go south to the road that leads down from Jerusalem to Gaza. So he set out and was on his way when he caught sight of an Ethiopian. This man was a eunuch, a high official of the Kandake (Candace) Queen of Ethiopia in charge of all her treasure.” (Acts, 8:27)
    The passage continues by describing how Philip helped the Ethiopian treasurer understand a passage from Isaiah that the Ethiopian was reading. After the Ethiopian received an explanation of the passage, he requested that Philip baptize him, and Philip did so. The Ethiopic version of this verse reads “Hendeke” (ህንደኬ); Queen Gersamot Hendeke VII was the Queen of Ethiopia from ca. 42 to 52.

    Orthodox Christianity became the established church of the Ethiopian Axumite Kingdom under king Ezana in the 4th century through the efforts of a Syrian Greek named Frumentius, known in Ethiopia as Abba Selama, Kesaté Birhan (“Father of Peace, Revealer of Light”). As a youth, Frumentius had been shipwrecked with his brother Aedesius on the Eritrean coast. The brothers managed to be brought to the royal court, where they rose to positions of influence and converted Emperor Ezana to Christianity, causing him to be baptised. Ezana sent Frumentius to Alexandria to ask the Patriarch, St. Athanasius, to appoint a bishop for Ethiopia. Athanasius appointed Frumentius himself, who returned to Ethiopia as Bishop with the name of Abune Selama.

    From then on, until 1959, the Pope of Alexandria, as Patriarch of All Africa, always named an Egyptian (a Copt) to be Abuna or Archbishop of the Ethiopian Church.

    Pierre

    #222233
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 31 2010,06:38)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 31 2010,13:11)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 31 2010,03:51)
    bod

    you say;So the Ethiopian Bible with the oldest Canon in the world is False and the Catholic Bible with its 73 books is False?

    Wow! You don't believe in much do you?

    ——————————–

    answer;;the scriptures are officially recognized with 66 books in it,and if you have study it you should know why,

    and the Koran will never be accepted as the written word of Jehovah God, WHY;Mk 16:16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.
    Mk 16:17 And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues;

    Jn 4:21 Jesus declared, “Believe me, woman, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem
    Jn 4:23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks.
    Jn 4:24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth.”

    Jn 5:46 If you believed Moses, you would believe me, for he wrote about me.
    Jn 5:47 But since you do not believe what he wrote, how are you going to believe what I say?”

    Jn 10:26 but you do not believe because you are not my sheep.

    Jn 13:19 “I am telling you now before it happens, so that when it does happen you will believe that I am He.(CHRIST)

    Jn 17:20 “My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message,
    Jn 17:21 that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me.

    THIS IS THE TRUE CHRIST OF JEHOVAH GOD,

    THE SCRIPTURES NEVER SAY THAT MUHAMMAD IS A PROPHET ONLY MUHAMMAD DID SAY THAT,

    Pierre


    Behold! the angels said: “O Mary! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be christ Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honour in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to Allah.  
    (  سورة آل عمران  , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #45)

    O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) an apostle of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His apostles. Say not “Trinity” : desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah. Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs.  
    (  سورة النساء  , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #171)

    So we both agree that Jesus is the Christ but I have already told you that so would every Muslim.

    Muslims do not believe that Christ=God and the bible doesn't teach that Christ is God

    Muslims do not believe that God is Triune or 3 in 1 nor does the Bible teach these things.

    Now when you say the scriptures are officially recognized  with 66 books I must ask officially recognized by who?


    bod

    the Koran does not offer any thing that is not already written in the word of God,

    Muhammad came in 600 AD Joseph Smith came 1830 AD

    both are false prophet,you are one of there prozelites,

    God the creator as nothing to do with them.
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    v • d • e
    The Ethiopian Church claims its earliest origins from the royal official said to have been baptized by Philip the Evangelist (not to be confused with Philip the Apostle), one of the seven deacons:

    “Then the angel of the Lord said to Philip, Start out and go south to the road that leads down from Jerusalem to Gaza. So he set out and was on his way when he caught sight of an Ethiopian. This man was a eunuch, a high official of the Kandake (Candace) Queen of Ethiopia in charge of all her treasure.” (Acts, 8:27)
    The passage continues by describing how Philip helped the Ethiopian treasurer understand a passage from Isaiah that the Ethiopian was reading. After the Ethiopian received an explanation of the passage, he requested that Philip baptize him, and Philip did so. The Ethiopic version of this verse reads “Hendeke” (ህንደኬ); Queen Gersamot Hendeke VII was the Queen of Ethiopia from ca. 42 to 52.

    Orthodox Christianity became the established church of the Ethiopian Axumite Kingdom under king Ezana in the 4th century through the efforts of a Syrian Greek named Frumentius, known in Ethiopia as Abba Selama, Kesaté Birhan (“Father of Peace, Revealer of Light”). As a youth, Frumentius had been shipwrecked with his brother Aedesius on the Eritrean coast. The brothers managed to be brought to the royal court, where they rose to positions of influence and converted Emperor Ezana to Christianity, causing him to be baptised. Ezana sent Frumentius to Alexandria to ask the Patriarch, St. Athanasius, to appoint a bishop for Ethiopia. Athanasius appointed Frumentius himself, who returned to Ethiopia as Bishop with the name of Abune Selama.

    From then on, until 1959, the Pope of Alexandria, as Patriarch of All Africa, always named an Egyptian (a Copt) to be Abuna or Archbishop of the Ethiopian Church.

    Pierre


    You still did not answer my question who Oficially gets to decide which books should be put in or left out of the Bible?

    How do you KNOW that God did not send the Quran to Muhammad through Gabriel, what PROOF do you have?

    #222237
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 31 2010,14:19)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 31 2010,06:38)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 31 2010,13:11)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 31 2010,03:51)
    bod

    you say;So the Ethiopian Bible with the oldest Canon in the world is False and the Catholic Bible with its 73 books is False?

    Wow! You don't believe in much do you?

    ——————————–

    answer;;the scriptures are officially recognized with 66 books in it,and if you have study it you should know why,

    and the Koran will never be accepted as the written word of Jehovah God, WHY;Mk 16:16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.
    Mk 16:17 And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues;

    Jn 4:21 Jesus declared, “Believe me, woman, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem
    Jn 4:23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks.
    Jn 4:24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth.”

    Jn 5:46 If you believed Moses, you would believe me, for he wrote about me.
    Jn 5:47 But since you do not believe what he wrote, how are you going to believe what I say?”

    Jn 10:26 but you do not believe because you are not my sheep.

    Jn 13:19 “I am telling you now before it happens, so that when it does happen you will believe that I am He.(CHRIST)

    Jn 17:20 “My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message,
    Jn 17:21 that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me.

    THIS IS THE TRUE CHRIST OF JEHOVAH GOD,

    THE SCRIPTURES NEVER SAY THAT MUHAMMAD IS A PROPHET ONLY MUHAMMAD DID SAY THAT,

    Pierre


    Behold! the angels said: “O Mary! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be christ Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honour in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to Allah.  
    (  سورة آل عمران  , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #45)

    O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) an apostle of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His apostles. Say not “Trinity” : desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah. Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs.  
    (  سورة النساء  , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #171)

    So we both agree that Jesus is the Christ but I have already told you that so would every Muslim.

    Muslims do not believe that Christ=God and the bible doesn't teach that Christ is God

    Muslims do not believe that God is Triune or 3 in 1 nor does the Bible teach these things.

    Now when you say the scriptures are officially recognized  with 66 books I must ask officially recognized by who?


    bod

    the Koran does not offer any thing that is not already written in the word of God,

    Muhammad came in 600 AD Joseph Smith came 1830 AD

    both are false prophet,you are one of there prozelites,

    God the creator as nothing to do with them.
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    Metousiosis

    v • d • e
    The Ethiopian Church claims its earliest origins from the royal official said to have been baptized by Philip the Evangelist (not to be confused with Philip the Apostle), one of the seven deacons:

    “Then the angel of the Lord said to Philip, Start out and go south to the road that leads down from Jerusalem to Gaza. So he set out and was on his way when he caught sight of an Ethiopian. This man was a eunuch, a high official of the Kandake (Candace) Queen of Ethiopia in charge of all her treasure.” (Acts, 8:27)
    The passage continues by describing how Philip helped the Ethiopian treasurer understand a passage from Isaiah that the Ethiopian was reading. After the Ethiopian received an explanation of the passage, he requested that Philip baptize him, and Philip did so. The Ethiopic version of this verse reads “Hendeke” (ህንደኬ); Queen Gersamot Hendeke VII was the Queen of Ethiopia from ca. 42 to 52.

    Orthodox Christianity became the established church of the Ethiopian Axumite Kingdom under king Ezana in the 4th century through the efforts of a Syrian Greek named Frumentius, known in Ethiopia as Abba Selama, Kesaté Birhan (“Father of Peace, Revealer of Light”). As a youth, Frumentius had been shipwrecked with his brother Aedesius on the Eritrean coast. The brothers managed to be brought to the royal court, where they rose to positions of influence and converted Emperor Ezana to Christianity, causing him to be baptised. Ezana sent Frumentius to Alexandria to ask the Patriarch, St. Athanasius, to appoint a bishop for Ethiopia. Athanasius appointed Frumentius himself, who returned to Ethiopia as Bishop with the name of Abune Selama.

    From then on, until 1959, the Pope of Alexandria, as Patriarch of All Africa, always named an Egyptian (a Copt) to be Abuna or Archbishop of the Ethiopian Church.

    Pierre


    You still did not answer my question who Oficially gets to decide which books should be put in or left out of the Bible?

    How do you KNOW that God did not send the Quran to Muhammad through Gabriel, what PROOF do you have?


    bod

    answer;Dt 18:20 But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded him to say, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, must be put to death.”

    Pierre

    #222239
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 31 2010,08:04)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 31 2010,14:19)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 31 2010,06:38)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 31 2010,13:11)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 31 2010,03:51)
    bod

    you say;So the Ethiopian Bible with the oldest Canon in the world is False and the Catholic Bible with its 73 books is False?

    Wow! You don't believe in much do you?

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    answer;;the scriptures are officially recognized with 66 books in it,and if you have study it you should know why,

    and the Koran will never be accepted as the written word of Jehovah God, WHY;Mk 16:16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.
    Mk 16:17 And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues;

    Jn 4:21 Jesus declared, “Believe me, woman, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem
    Jn 4:23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks.
    Jn 4:24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth.”

    Jn 5:46 If you believed Moses, you would believe me, for he wrote about me.
    Jn 5:47 But since you do not believe what he wrote, how are you going to believe what I say?”

    Jn 10:26 but you do not believe because you are not my sheep.

    Jn 13:19 “I am telling you now before it happens, so that when it does happen you will believe that I am He.(CHRIST)

    Jn 17:20 “My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message,
    Jn 17:21 that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me.

    THIS IS THE TRUE CHRIST OF JEHOVAH GOD,

    THE SCRIPTURES NEVER SAY THAT MUHAMMAD IS A PROPHET ONLY MUHAMMAD DID SAY THAT,

    Pierre


    Behold! the angels said: “O Mary! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be christ Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honour in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to Allah.  
    (  سورة آل عمران  , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #45)

    O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) an apostle of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His apostles. Say not “Trinity” : desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah. Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs.  
    (  سورة النساء  , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #171)

    So we both agree that Jesus is the Christ but I have already told you that so would every Muslim.

    Muslims do not believe that Christ=God and the bible doesn't teach that Christ is God

    Muslims do not believe that God is Triune or 3 in 1 nor does the Bible teach these things.

    Now when you say the scriptures are officially recognized  with 66 books I must ask officially recognized by who?


    bod

    the Koran does not offer any thing that is not already written in the word of God,

    Muhammad came in 600 AD Joseph Smith came 1830 AD

    both are false prophet,you are one of there prozelites,

    God the creator as nothing to do with them.
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    The Ethiopian Church claims its earliest origins from the royal official said to have been baptized by Philip the Evangelist (not to be confused with Philip the Apostle), one of the seven deacons:

    “Then the angel of the Lord said to Philip, Start out and go south to the road that leads down from Jerusalem to Gaza. So he set out and was on his way when he caught sight of an Ethiopian. This man was a eunuch, a high official of the Kandake (Candace) Queen of Ethiopia in charge of all her treasure.” (Acts, 8:27)
    The passage continues by describing how Philip helped the Ethiopian treasurer understand a passage from Isaiah that the Ethiopian was reading. After the Ethiopian received an explanation of the passage, he requested that Philip baptize him, and Philip did so. The Ethiopic version of this verse reads “Hendeke” (ህንደኬ); Queen Gersamot Hendeke VII was the Queen of Ethiopia from ca. 42 to 52.

    Orthodox Christianity became the established church of the Ethiopian Axumite Kingdom under king Ezana in the 4th century through the efforts of a Syrian Greek named Frumentius, known in Ethiopia as Abba Selama, Kesaté Birhan (“Father of Peace, Revealer of Light”). As a youth, Frumentius had been shipwrecked with his brother Aedesius on the Eritrean coast. The brothers managed to be brought to the royal court, where they rose to positions of influence and converted Emperor Ezana to Christianity, causing him to be baptised. Ezana sent Frumentius to Alexandria to ask the Patriarch, St. Athanasius, to appoint a bishop for Ethiopia. Athanasius appointed Frumentius himself, who returned to Ethiopia as Bishop with the name of Abune Selama.

    From then on, until 1959, the Pope of Alexandria, as Patriarch of All Africa, always named an Egyptian (a Copt) to be Abuna or Archbishop of the Ethiopian Church.

    Pierre


    You still did not answer my question who Oficially gets to decide which books should be put in or left out of the Bible?

    How do you KNOW that God did not send the Quran to Muhammad through Gabriel, what PROOF do you have?


    bod

    answer;Dt 18:20 But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded him to say, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, must be put to death.”

    Pierre


    What other gods? ALLAH is not another God how many times must you be told this simple to understand FACT?

    All you are doing is disrespecting God Almighty through your ignorance of the truth. Is there another God of Israel?

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    terraricca
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    bod

    Dt 18:22 If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him.

    Pierre

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    terraricca
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    bod

    the only thing you try to do is to give room to your false prophet Muhammad,and that is a no no,you have to become to grip with that fact, Muhammad is not sent from God ,the God of Abraham and Jacob,Isaac and Jesus the true prophet.

    Muhammad is a lie,a self made conqueror and called himself prophet of his own god so he can do what he wants since he is the spoken men of is god. got it??
    you say;;;
    What other gods? ALLAH is not another God how many times must you be told this simple to understand FACT?

    All you are doing is disrespecting God Almighty through your ignorance of the truth. Is there another God of Israel?
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    Muhammad is not the prophet of Israel and the god of Islam is not the god of Israel,otherwise the Arab nations would have join Israel not fight it.got it ???

    Pierre

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