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Quote (Ed J @ June 24 2013,11:48) Quote (2besee @ June 22 2013,22:40) Hi Abe,
This has been on my mind for a while:Jesus said:
But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send (Greek) in the name of me, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you.Do you think that the Holy Spirit now could be named Jesus?
I am trying to figure something out, I have more questions after that.
Thanks Abe.
Hi 2Besee,This is easy to understand once it's explained…
Jesus' name means: “YA is Salvation,” the
HolySpirit brings “The Salvation of YA.”God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Amen Ed,
Yes, I see that..Quote (terraricca @ June 18 2013,02:41) Quote (2besee @ June 17 2013,05:47) Terraricca, Quote the category rules:
“Group Discussions. Discussions among like-minded members only. No opposition. Invited members could be based on belief in a certain doctrine.”
You would only be here to accuse rather than to discuss, Terrarica..correct?
If you are interested, then click on the link provided regarding the epistles.
ok,I leave those discussions to the ones that it may be interested in it ,it is your time ,
I meant to say, thank you Terraricca. This is a discussion, rather than a debate and thank you for your respect in the matter.Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 21 2013,09:26)
Abe….. As far as the son of GOD goes, it's, much like a man , when his seed is discharged into a women and unites with her, he has extended himself to another life form, so it seems with the Spirit of God, IMO, If his seed (holy spirit abides in you, you are a son of God ) according to John. God the father has extended himself to us, by his Spirit, and being God is a spirt, we then are sharing our same body, just as Jesus was also. God's spirit begins to express itself in us and a changes in our nature begins to take place as we grow in the full measure of Christ. IMOHope that helped brother.
Peace and love to you and yours………………………..gene
Hi Gene,That was a VERY GOOD explanation! And here are just a few of many corroborating Bible verses (for the benefit of the readers):
(Isaiah 53:2, 53:10) “[Jesus] shall grow up before [YHVH] as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground:”
“[YHVH] shalt make [Jesus'] soul an offering for sin, [Jesus] shall see [God's seed] (“God's Seed” is “The Word”) (see Luke 8:11)
THE HOLY SPIRIT IS GOD'S SEED!
(And he that soweth God's Seed is “the Son of Man”)
(see Matthew 13:37)(Jesus said unto them) “WHAT IS THE KINGDOM OF GOD LIKE? and whereunto shall I resemble it?
(God's Kingdom) is like a grain of mustard SEED, which a man took, and cast into his garden; and it grew,
(see Acts 12:24) and waxed *a great tree; and the fowls of the air lodged in the branches of it.” (Luke 13:18-19)“So mightily grew “The Word”(HOLYSPIRIT) of God and prevailed.” (Acts 19:20)
Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
*A GREAT TREE is the “Tree of Life” (see Rev.22:1-3)So the Spirit of Christ was the Holy Spirit. Jesus the Nazarene BECAME the Christ, the anointed.
I am reading “Acts” at the moment.
Jesus Christ is in Heaven at God's right hand, and the Holy Spirit (the Spirit of Christ) was sent.Acts 9
When Paul had his vision.“Now as he journeyed he approached Damascus, and suddenly a light from heaven flashed about him. [4] And he fell to the ground and heard a voice saying to him, “Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me?”
[5] And he said, “Who are you, Lord?” And he said, “I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting.“Quote (2besee @ June 24 2013,12:56) So the Spirit of Christ was the Holy Spirit. Jesus the Nazarene BECAME the Christ, the anointed.
I am reading “Acts” at the moment.
Jesus Christ is in Heaven at God's right hand, and the Holy Spirit (the Spirit of Christ) was sent.
No 2Besee,JEHOVAH –> HolySpirit,
Jesus –> Spirit of Christ“The Word” of God is the HolySpirit of God, and
the robe that the HolySpirit is wearing is the spirit of Christ,
called Jesus of Nazareth (in the flesh) and Jesus Christ (in the spirit).
It's the meaning of: “their [spiritual blood] shall be sprinkled upon my garments” (Isa 63:3)
I will stain all my raiment* Jesus Christ is*
“Owner of owners and Leader of leaders. (see 1Timothy 6:15)**And GOD's HolySpirit is**
“The OWNER of owners and the LEADER of leaders. (see Rev.19:16)Hope this helps
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)Quote (Ed J @ June 24 2013,14:49) Quote (2besee @ June 24 2013,12:56) So the Spirit of Christ was the Holy Spirit. Jesus the Nazarene BECAME the Christ, the anointed.
I am reading “Acts” at the moment.
Jesus Christ is in Heaven at God's right hand, and the Holy Spirit (the Spirit of Christ) was sent.
No 2Besee,JEHOVAH –> HolySpirit,
Jesus –> Spirit of Christ“The Word” of God is the HolySpirit of God, and
the robe that the HolySpirit is wearing is the spirit of Christ,
called Jesus of Nazareth (in the flesh) and Jesus Christ (in the spirit).
It's the meaning of: “their [spiritual blood] shall be sprinkled upon my garments” (Isa 63:3)
I will stain all my raiment* Jesus Christ is*
“Owner of owners and Leader of leaders. (see 1Timothy 6:15)**And GOD's HolySpirit is**
“The OWNER of owners and the LEADER of leaders. (see Rev.19:16)Hope this helps
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
Hi 2Besee,“Glory to Glory” (2Cor.3:18)
“Surely thou(ZION) shalt clothe thee with them all, as with an
ornament, and bind them on thee, as a bride(Rev.21:9) doeth.” (Isaiah 49:18)
“Zion” represents God's “HolySpirit” – now do you understand the meaning of Isaiah 49:13-18?
The spirit of Christ was married to the spirit of GOD (God's HolySpirit) in holy-SPIRITUAL-matrimony.Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHi 2Besee,
As the coats of skins which (God sacrificed to get) clothed Adam and Eve – to cover their sin,
God's HolySpirit clothes us (God sacrificed Jesus) – from the effects of sin that can plague one's life.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Reason for Edit: GrammarQuote (2besee @ June 23 2013,14:41) Thank you kerwin that was what I was looking for. Getting back on track now!! Abe,
” You are not in the flesh but in the Spirit — if it is so, that THE SPIRIT OF GOD dwells in you. But if any man doesn't have the SPIRIT OF CHRIST, he is not his.”
There you see the Spirit of God and the Spirit of Christ, and we know from scripture that there is only one spirit.
1 Corinthians 3:16 “Don't you know that you yourselves are God's temple and that God's Spirit lives in you?”
1 Corinthians 6:17 'But he who unites himself with the Lord is one with him in spirit.'
1 Corinthians 6:19 'Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own.'
Here is the spirit of Christ in the prophets of old:
1 Peter 1:10-12.
'The prophets who prophesied of the grace that was to be yours searched and inquired about this salvation; they inquired what person or time was INDICATED BY THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST WITHIN when predicting the sufferings of Christ and the subsequent glory. It was revealed to them that they were serving not themselves but you, in the things which have now been announced to you by those who preached the good news to you through the Holy Spirit sent from heaven, things into which angels long to look.'
Hi 2b,1 Peter 1:10-12.
'The prophets who prophesied of the grace that was to be yours searched and inquired about this salvation; they inquired what person or time was INDICATED BY THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST WITHIN when predicting the sufferings of Christ and the subsequent glory. It was revealed to them that they were serving not themselves but You, in the things which have now been announced to You by those who preached the good news to You through the Holy Spirit sent from heaven, things into which angels long to look.’
The Promise of the Spirit of the *Holy* from of the Father.
5037 [e]teτεandPrtcl
1860 [e]epangelianἐπαγγελίαν[the] promiseN-AFS
3588 [e]touτοῦof theArt-GNS
4151 [e]pneumatosπνεύματοςSpiritN-GNS
3588 [e]touτοῦ–Art-GMS
40 [e]hagiouἁγίουHoly,Adj-GNS
2983 [e]labōnλαβὼνhaving receivedV-APA-NMS
3844 [e]paraπαρὰfromPrep *from*
3588 [e]touτοῦtheArt-GMS *of the*
3962 [e]patrosπατρὸςFather, *Father**Holy*
[40 (hágios) implies something “set apart” and therefore “different (distinguished/distinct)” – i.e. “other,” because special to the Lord.]
NASB Translation
Holy (92), holy (62), Holy of Holies (1), holy one (5), holy ones (1), holy place (7), most holy (1), saint (1), *saints (59)*, saints' (1), sanctuary (2).Rom.11:16 For if the Firstfruits be Holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches.
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There you see the Spirit of God and the Spirit of Christ, and we know from scripture that there is only one spirit.One Spirit. God is Spirit. Spirit OF Spirit.
Any questions, please ask?
We’ll go slow, OK.
Peace brother…
Quote (Ed J @ June 24 2013,11:10) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 21 2013,09:26)
Abe….. As far as the son of GOD goes, it's, much like a man , when his seed is discharged into a women and unites with her, he has extended himself to another life form, so it seems with the Spirit of God, IMO, If his seed (holy spirit abides in you, you are a son of God ) according to John. God the father has extended himself to us, by his Spirit, and being God is a spirt, we then are sharing our same body, just as Jesus was also. God's spirit begins to express itself in us and a changes in our nature begins to take place as we grow in the full measure of Christ. IMOHope that helped brother.
Peace and love to you and yours………………………..gene
Hi Gene,That was a VERY GOOD explanation! And here are just a few of many corroborating Bible verses (for the benefit of the readers):
(Isaiah 53:2, 53:10) “[Jesus] shall grow up before [YHVH] as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground:”
“[YHVH] shalt make [Jesus'] soul an offering for sin, [Jesus] shall see [God's seed] (“God's Seed” is “The Word”) (see Luke 8:11)
THE HOLY SPIRIT IS GOD'S SEED!
(And he that soweth God's Seed is “the Son of Man”)
(see Matthew 13:37)(Jesus said unto them) “WHAT IS THE KINGDOM OF GOD LIKE? and whereunto shall I resemble it?
(God's Kingdom) is like a grain of mustard SEED, which a man took, and cast into his garden; and it grew,
(see Acts 12:24) and waxed *a great tree; and the fowls of the air lodged in the branches of it.” (Luke 13:18-19)“So mightily grew “The Word”(HOLYSPIRIT) of God and prevailed.” (Acts 19:20)
Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
*A GREAT TREE is the “Tree of Life” (see Rev.22:1-3)
EdJ.That would contradict this scripture.
***Without him was not anything made that was made***.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ June 24 2013,19:51) Quote (Ed J @ June 24 2013,11:10) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 21 2013,09:26)
Abe….. As far as the son of GOD goes, it's, much like a man , when his seed is discharged into a women and unites with her, he has extended himself to another life form, so it seems with the Spirit of God, IMO, If his seed (holy spirit abides in you, you are a son of God ) according to John. God the father has extended himself to us, by his Spirit, and being God is a spirt, we then are sharing our same body, just as Jesus was also. God's spirit begins to express itself in us and a changes in our nature begins to take place as we grow in the full measure of Christ. IMOHope that helped brother.
Peace and love to you and yours………………………..gene
Hi Gene,That was a VERY GOOD explanation! And here are just a few of many corroborating Bible verses (for the benefit of the readers):
(Isaiah 53:2, 53:10) “[Jesus] shall grow up before [YHVH] as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground:”
“[YHVH] shalt make [Jesus'] soul an offering for sin, [Jesus] shall see [God's seed] (“God's Seed” is “The Word”) (see Luke 8:11)
THE HOLY SPIRIT IS GOD'S SEED!
(And he that soweth God's Seed is “the Son of Man”)
(see Matthew 13:37)(Jesus said unto them) “WHAT IS THE KINGDOM OF GOD LIKE? and whereunto shall I resemble it?
(God's Kingdom) is like a grain of mustard SEED, which a man took, and cast into his garden; and it grew,
(see Acts 12:24) and waxed *a great tree; and the fowls of the air lodged in the branches of it.” (Luke 13:18-19)“So mightily grew “The Word”(HOLYSPIRIT) of God and prevailed.” (Acts 19:20)
Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
*A GREAT TREE is the “Tree of Life” (see Rev.22:1-3)
EdJ.That would contradict this scripture.
***Without him was not anything made that was made***.
wakeup.
Without “Him” – God's HolySpirit was not anything made that was made.Quote (Ed J @ June 24 2013,17:21) Hi 2Besee, As the coats of skins which (God sacrificed to get) clothed Adam and Eve – to cover their sin,
God's HolySpirit clothes us (God sacrificed Jesus) – from the effects of sin that can plague one's life.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hi Wakeup,No complaint about this post?
Quote (Ed J @ June 24 2013,14:49) Quote (2besee @ June 24 2013,12:56) So the Spirit of Christ was the Holy Spirit. Jesus the Nazarene BECAME the Christ, the anointed.
I am reading “Acts” at the moment.
Jesus Christ is in Heaven at God's right hand, and the Holy Spirit (the Spirit of Christ) was sent.
No 2Besee,JEHOVAH –> HolySpirit,
Jesus –> Spirit of Christ“The Word” of God is the HolySpirit of God, and
the robe that the HolySpirit is wearing is the spirit of Christ,
called Jesus of Nazareth (in the flesh) and Jesus Christ (in the spirit).
It's the meaning of: “their [spiritual blood] shall be sprinkled upon my garments” (Isa 63:3)
I will stain all my raiment* Jesus Christ is*
“Owner of owners and Leader of leaders. (see 1Timothy 6:15)**And GOD's HolySpirit is**
“The OWNER of owners and the LEADER of leaders. (see Rev.19:16)Hope this helps
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
Hi Wakeup,No complaint about this post either?
Hi Abe, So the Spirit of Christ is the Holy Spirit, yes? What do you think. I think it is.
What about when Jesus appeared to Paul in vision.Yes thank you Abe, slow is better.
Hi 2Besee,
As I have shown you before – the “HolySpirit” cannot be Jesus, and here's why:
The Father of Spirits is God's HolySpirit
“Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us,
and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in
subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?” (Heb 12:9)1. “Father of Spirits”
2. The spirits that the Father of Spirits is Father of.Since YHVH is a Spirit and Christ is his Son, that means
that the “spirit of Christ” is number 2; WHO IS NUMBER 1? (<– please answer)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEd, I did not say that Jesus was the Holy Spirit 'as such'. I said that I believe that the Holy Spirit is also called the Spirit of Christ, and is also called the Spirit of the Son…which was IN Jesus of Nazareth.
I was curious about the vision that Paul had of Jesus speaking to him – that is all. But I see that that was a vison, which is different.I know what I believe right up to the ascension of Jesus to heaven. But from then on is where I would like to study more.
Quote Since YHVH is a Spirit and Christ is his Son, that means that the “spirit of Christ” is number 2; WHO IS NUMBER 1? (<– please answer) The Father, Almighty God.
Quote (2besee @ June 25 2013,08:36) Ed, I did not say that Jesus was the Holy Spirit 'as such'. I said that I believe that the Holy Spirit is also called the Spirit of Christ, and is also called the Spirit of the Son…which was IN Jesus of Nazareth.
I was curious about the vision that Paul had of Jesus speaking to him – that is all. But I see that that was a vison, which is different.I know what I believe right up to the ascension of Jesus to heaven. But from then on is where I would like to study more.
Hi 2Besee,“GOD” is a spirit (ref. John 4:24); are you suggesting that
the spirit Christ is the Father of GOD, who “IS” a spirit?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
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