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Gene,
God provides the plants.
Years ago I had chronic hypertension, tachracardia and chest pain, including forced hospitalisation for it. Outside my door was a hybiscus bush, and I brought my BP down by drinking hybiscus tea (which worked as good in studies as ACE inhabitors I think it was), and I reduced my caffeine intake and took magnesium. My BP has remained steady for years and is perfect (115/60).
For covid, I ordered Wormwood seeds (the plants are just starting to grow), which is what they used in Africa (kills internal parasites and viruses). We also have outside a sweet variety of grapefruit which can make a natural form of Quinine.
So, prepared yes.
I think only a minority of Christianity sees Covid as God’s punishment, and from what I have so far seen it is mainly evangelical Christians against the vaccine.
I think they are people from all walks of life. The only people I personally know who are not getting vaccinated are not Christians. I still believe it is there choice. But there is always the argument that not being vaccinated makes it dangerous for everyone else.
I get both sides of the argument. Freedom vs giving up your rights in the name of making it better for everyone.
That said, if everyone complied and we eradicated Covid-19, then governments around the world would probably feel compelled to make scanning or tracking of citizens mandatory from now on for its other benefits. So resistance is also good because it makes governments think twice about trying something like this out. I’m pretty sure that full compliance would lead to the abuse of freedom. It’s the same kind of arguments with guns. If the populace has them, then governments will think twice before going rogue. If they do not have them, then a dictator can step in. History shows us this.
The argument against vaccines here is ignoring some basic facts IMO. First off, vaccines are never 100% safe. For most people yes, but there will always be those who react badly. If you gave peanuts to every person in the world, there would be some horror stories out there right?
But the argument for vaccines is that it is way less dangerous than the virus itself. It’s as simple as that. I would rather go to battle with a shield than without one, even if there was a tiny chance that the shield itself could harm me. It’s really about recognizing that we will all get Covid-19 in the end just as we do the flue and a cold. And in order to get the virus down to that level, humans need to fight the virus and gain natural immunity. Vaccines are one way of doing this. It takes the violent battle waiting us and gives us some training. Once we are vaccinated or have gained natural immunity, it will wane, but we will fight it again and possibly again like we do with the flu. But for the most part, it will just be an inconvenience like the flu. Yes, I know the flu can kill too.
Here’s an opinion to consider:
Proclaimer,
The arguement is not against vaccines. The media falsely portrays those against the covid vaccine as being “anti vaxxers” but that’s not true. I vaccined my son against meningitis even though it is not funded here, because I did not want him to get meningitis. The covid vaccine is a whole new technology, much different than the old ones. Google, FB etc hide the truth.
Some are RNA vaccines, but not all. Without checking it out, I think AstraZeneca is an old school vaccine.
Hi bro Adam.
I think only a minority of Christianity sees Covid as God’s punishment, and from what I have so far seen it is mainly evangelical Christians against the vaccine.
Yes, it is sad so many have lost their lives, but this life is only short compared to heaven and eternity. I was ready to die if I got covid too. Jesus died for the sins of the world.
Please watch this ten minute video which is (almost) exactly how I see it.
Hi Sis Karmarie, thanks for your reply to my post. Sorry the video you posted was with very low voice and it’s on Vegetarianism than COVID Vaccine. I have not seen anything adverse due to COVID Vaccine in India. These social media videos are simply speculations. So please be cautious.
Proclaimer,
I think they are people from all walks of life. The only people I personally know who are not getting vaccinated are not Christians.
There are indeed. However I was responding to Adam’s comment about Christianity.
I personally know eleven people who are not getting the vaccine (there’s probably more but I haven’t asked them all). Of those eleven, only five openly identify as Christian. I am part of a NZ Facebook group of Christians who are not getting it, there are over a thousand of us.
I still believe it is there choice. But there is always the argument that not being vaccinated makes it dangerous for everyone else.
Why would it make it dangerous if the vaccine worked (and protected you against the un-vaccinated)? Why the need for boosters already? Why is it not working against the Delta variant? What of future variants? Why would you inject a poison into you that is not doing what it claims, continuously?
That said, if everyone complied and we eradicated Covid-19, then governments around the world would probably feel compelled to make scanning or tracking of citizens mandatory from now on for its other benefits. So resistance is also good because it makes governments think twice about trying something like this out. I’m pretty sure that full compliance would lead to the abuse of freedom. It’s the same kind of arguments with guns. If the populace has them, then governments will think twice before going rogue. If they do not have them, then a dictator can step in. History shows us this.
Yep. We are not conspiracy theorists. We are the resistance!
Hi Sis Karmarie, thanks for your reply to my post. Sorry the video you posted was with very low voice and it’s on Vegetarianism than COVID Vaccine.
Hey bro. The video was reg my opinion on why Covid happened /punishment view – someone who said it how I mostly would say it.
I have not seen anything adverse due to COVID Vaccine in India.
There is a HUGE covering up all over the world. People die from covid vaccines probably by the hundreds daily, but it is falsely labelled as natural causes. Give it two years. Two years. And we will see if they can cover it up any longer because it will get worse. Long term effects will be worse. They will know that the unvaccinated are not sick, and try and cover that up too. That’s why they want 100% vaccination, IMO
Oh and did you know there is a clause on all covid vaccines that the manufacturers etc. are not liable for damages?
Adam, that video by the Jamaican guy was made in 2019 or early 2020.
Here is another video as to why I believe God is punishing us. Firstly, the torture and mistreatment of animals in China, etc. and the worldwide treatment /slaughter of animals for consumption. I believe God had enough. I watched this video in late 2019 (after weeks of similar videos on FB), and I was so so angry, I was crying more than I had ever cried, I cried to God and so did many many many people. He had enough. Humans crossed the line, imo.
Warning though it is disturbing.
I had been watching videos on facebook my cousin kept posting, and they were absolutely disgusting. This video, however was the final straw for me.
This is some thing nasty and inhuman. Please don’t watch such videos they make you vomit. I even blame these video makers who want to show us such nasty clips to promote their alleged Vegetarianism. I request you don’t promote such propaganda here. I don’t know how this is related to the so called Mark of the Beast?
Adam, I was simply giving my PERSONAL view on what caused covid. And that I don’t think it is a good idea to try to protect ourselves with an injected vaccine, that is all!
“Whoever wants to save their life will lose it, but whoever loses their life for me will find it.” – Matthew 16:25
It is the disgusting reality Adam, as are slaughterhouses. Has NOTHING to do with promoting anything.
Revelation 9:20.
The rest of mankind who were not killed by these plagues still did not repent of the work of their hands; they did not stop worshiping demons, and idols of gold, silver, bronze, stone and wood—idols that cannot see or hear or walk. Nor did they repent of their murders, their sorceries, their sexual immorality or their thefts.
Adam, I was simply giving my PERSONAL view on what caused covid. And that I don’t think it is a good idea to try to protect ourselves with an injected vaccine, that is all!
“Whoever wants to save their life will lose it, but whoever loses their life for me will find it.” – Matthew 16:25
Hello Sis Karmarie, I know COVID may be man-made Pandemic but Vaccine again is scientific to save lives. Why bring God into such man-made calamities?
I think you are misguided by these so called apologetic propaganda.
Miia Wrote
Revelation 9:20.
The rest of mankind who were not killed by these plagues still did not repent of the work of their hands; they did not stop worshiping demons, and idols of gold, silver, bronze, stone and wood—idols that cannot see or hear or walk. Nor did they repent of their murders, their sorceries, their sexual immorality or their thefts.
In principle, Miia, you’re right …
I think you are misguided by these so called apologetic propaganda.
I have no idea what you mean by that Adam, lol.
I thought you did not believe the book of Revelations was relevant to today?
Could you please remove post #890453 that I posted (about 8 posts above this one). Probably too disturbing for a public forum, thank you Admin.
Hi Berean.
Revelation 9:20.
The rest of mankind who were not killed by these plagues still did not repent of the work of their hands; they did not stop worshiping demons, and idols of gold, silver, bronze, stone and wood—idols that cannot see or hear or walk. Nor did they repent of their murders, their sorceries, their sexual immorality or their thefts.
In principle, Miia, you’re right …
It is what the scriptures say. Plagues are sent to get men to repent.
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