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Proclaimer: I am guessing had you lived before the 50s that you would be against the old style vaccines.
I was born in 1964, and I am against ALL vaccines. Nefarious people are injecting us with God knows what. I’m actually against all “Western Medicine” where companies concoct unnatural crap in labs and then promote that crap on TV commercials in deceitful ways.
“Are you sometimes tired and sometimes have an upset stomach? Then you need our new chemical concoction!”
Then they go on to softly and quietly tell you all the side effects – most of which are way worse then being tired or having an upset stomach. It’s a big money making scam.
Proclaimer: That said, it is possible that mRNA may have problems years from now.
We don’t have to wait years from now. Deaths from these Covid vaccines are ALREADY many times the total number of deaths from every vaccine ever created put together!
Proclaimer: Yes, it could have or even likely came from that lab. Yes, Fauci funded it either directly or indirectly it seems. As for it purposefully being released on the world. Well yes China let it escape their shores on purpose after it was released inside their own country. But it could have accidently leaked from the lab and China let it out to the rest of the world because they didn’t want to fall behind the rest of the world. So they allowed the world to have it too so we would all be in the same boat.
It was created in that lab – with money designated by Fauci. And when they (the CCP) purposely released it in Wuhan, they forbade local residents from traveling to any other province in China – while simultaneously urging them to travel to other countries. It’s also come to light that they released it during some “War Games” that had soldiers from many other nations competing against each other. Each soldier took it back to his country when the games were over.
The CCP perpetrated an act of biological war against the world, and if there is any justice, they will be held accountable.
Proclaimer: None of what you are saying here though is direct evidence against the vaccines.
I’ve posted a lot of damning evidence against the vaccines. Here is some more – laid out by one of our US Senators who is only reading data derived from scientific study. You should watch the video, but here is the summary…
Here’s the video… https://rumble.com/vn7900-sen.-ron-johnson-63-deaths-in-fully-vaccinated-in-england-cdcs-vaers-over-1.html
Proclaimer: I’ve never said that governments are not corrupt or that there is not a cabal of politicians, media, Social Media, and world organisations that work together to provide lying narratives to the world. I believe this exists. It’s partly driven by money partly by keeping themselves in power, and partly because they think they need to control the destiny of the world.
Why then would you promote the lies? Why wouldn’t you instead come right out and say that you don’t even know that this vaccine helped anyone in any way, or that it won’t do harm to anyone, and that nobody has any right to FORCE this experimental gene-altering biological weapon on anyone? Instead, you and Gene and Adam came on this thread toeing the company line, talking about how good these injections are and how we should all get them.
Odd behavior for someone who understands that whatever you hear on MSM is most likely the very opposite of truth.
The doctor at the 12:05 mark of this video says that the first injection lowers a person’s white blood cells by 50%. The second takes it down another 25%. The third booster has 82 bacterial strands in it that will attack your body when it’s natural white blood cell army is 75% depleted. And the fourth booster contains strands of HIV.
I can’t verify this info, but the second doctor (who is hearing this for the first time) says that the white blood cell depletion part aligns with what she sees in her own practice. She says healthy people with normal T-cell counts get the vax and all of a sudden have a drastic reduction in those T-cells. Like I said, I can’t verify, but this sounds pretty bad – and would align with the cabal’s 2030 Agenda.
https://rumble.com/vn5zl7-vax-blackmailed-nurse-fights-back.html
Proclaimer: Medsafe’s assessment is that there is no indication that these cases are in any way similar to the TTS cases reported with the other COVID-19 vaccines. This assessment was endorsed by New Zealand’s COVID-19 Vaccine Independent Safety Monitoring Board (CV-ISMB) on 22 April 2021… Following review by CARM and the CV-ISMB, none of these cases was considered to be related to vaccination.
Farmer: Mr. Fox, I’ve heard some reports that a few hens have gone missing from the henhouse you’re guarding. Is this true?
Fox: No sir. Those reports are false. I personally did a head count just an hour ago, and all hens are present and accounted for.
Farmer: Great! Good thing I’ve got you guarding my henhouse, Mr. Fox.
Gene: It has been proven that those who have had the shots are far more unlikely to die from the COVID virus.
Actually, the new UK study I just posted above shows the opposite, Gene. It says that 63% of the deaths were fully vaccinated, and only 28% were unvaccinated.
Here’s the report if you want to read it for yourself… https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1018547/Technical_Briefing_23_21_09_16.pdf
And before Proclaimer says, “Well Mike, that’s because there are more people in the vaxxed group, so naturally they’ll have the higher number of deaths”, remember that the vax is supposed to PREVENT exactly this. If the vax actually worked, the vaxxed would account for virtually 0% of the deaths, and the unvaxxed for virtually 100%.
Instead, the vaxxed deaths are almost THREE TIMES HIGHER than the unvaxxed. 😳
Mike…..Please explain how a completely dead molecular compound, AS VACCINES ARE, can in anyway change our DNA, IT CAN’T by the way, YOUR big problem is you simply do not understand how vaccines actually work. Plus they are only effective for a fairly short time 1 year approx, you really don’t understand the actual science behind vaccines at all, and that in my opinion is clouding the truth. It has been proven over many, many, years these vaccines have greatly reduced death, in every pandemic so far, even in many other flue related illness , like pneumonia, influenza , shingles, polio, tetanus, rabies, etc, which has been proven over and over for 70 years as I recall,
If you know how they Change our DNA, PLEASE EXPLAIN IT TO US, I would like to know how these dead compounds can do that?peace and love to you and yours………gene
In that video above, Senator Ron Johnson even points out that nations like the UK and Israel provide the actual data for these studies, and asks why we can’t get the straight data from the CDC in America.
And YouTube just announced that the will now ban any video talking about any vaccine. Why? Easy. They don’t want the truth out there. They don’t want Americans to see the actual data and find out that the vax IS the variant! The vax IS what’s killing more people than Covid – which has a survivability rate of 99.98%.
And why don’t they want us to see that raw data that proves these facts? Money – and power of us worthless eaters. This has never been about a flu with a death rate of 0.02%. This has always been about an election and about bringing in the New World Order that enslaves us.
Wake up!
Gene: If you know how they Change our DNA, PLEASE EXPLAIN IT TO US, I would like to know how these dead compounds can do that?
Gene, the following is from the CDC: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/different-vaccines/mRNA.html?s_cid=11344:mrna%20vaccine:sem.ga:p:RG:GM:gen:PTN:FY21
“… mRNA vaccines are a new type of vaccine to protect against infectious diseases. To trigger an immune response, many vaccines put a weakened or inactivated germ into our bodies. Not mRNA vaccines. Instead, they teach our cells how to make a protein…
COVID-19 mRNA vaccines give instructions for our cells to make a harmless piece of what is called the “spike protein.”
First, COVID-19 mRNA vaccines are given in the upper arm muscle. Once the instructions (mRNA) are inside the muscle cells, the cells use them to make the protein piece.”
Can you see it now, Gene? You’re talking about old vaccines, which supposedly put a weakened or inactivated germ into our bodies. Now notice how they say this is NOT the case with mRNA vaccines. Do you see that? Do you understand that this is the first time an mRNA vax has ever been injected into human beings?
So what do mRNA vaccines do instead, Gene? Can you read the CDC’s own words saying that these “vaccines” TEACH our bodies how to make spike proteins that our bodies wouldn’t have made before?
Understand? These are not “vaccines” in any sense of the word. They are genetic instructions that tell our DNA to make things in our bodies that our bodies were never intended by God to make.
What do you think about that, Gene? Do you think it’s right to reprogram God’s DNA program so that our bodies produce stuff that God never intended them to produce?
And to make it worse, there are already hundreds of cases of people “shedding” these illegitimately made spike proteins – which then cause problems for other people. There are cases of many pregnant women who didn’t get the vax, but have had a miscarriage after coming into close contact with someone who did get the vax.
What if the unvaccinated are being poisoned by the vaccinated through the shedding of these spike proteins that their bodies are now making? Instead of dying from Covid, I might die from having dinner with someone who was vaccinated!
The point is that we don’t know what this gene-altering godforsaken crap will do to any of us, and I just wish that more people would think and research for themselves instead of BLINDLY believing and trusting anyone who they consider to be a “government authority”. Now we all might end up in the same mess because of the blind sheep who do whatever a person in a white lab coat tells them to do. My God, if Fauci went on TV and said you can prevent Covid by sticking a light bulb up your butt, there’d still be 50% of the world who’d do it! 😳 Stupid people!
And all for what? A freaking FLU with a 99.98% survivability rate? I’m embarrassed to even be part of the human race at times like this.
Proclaimer: Gene, in your last post, you actually sound reasonable. Congratulations.
Says the guy who claims to know that the government cabal lies to us for money and power. Well now that I’ve educated Gene and showed him that this isn’t a “vaccine” by any stretch of the imagination, but instead foreign coded instructions that cause our bodies to produce stuff God didn’t cause our bodies to produce, what say you? Does Gene still sound reasonable to you, now that you know he was preaching something that wasn’t even true?
And what do you think about having DNA instructions injected into your body that didn’t come from God? Still think it was a good idea to allow men to play God with your body in an EXPERIMENT that has never been tried before?
Proclaimer: He makes some good points.
Of course he does, because he’s talking common sense to an evil person whose job it is to STOP people from using their own common sense. If it is already FACT that natural immunity from having survived this flu is WAY better than any imagined protection you get from the vax, then why wouldn’t those in charge talk about that? Why wouldn’t their mandates exclude those who already had Covid and recovered?
Why would this evil POS say he isn’t aware of these many studies, when he is supposed to be the point man on this “deadly pandemic”? Because he’s LYING. He knows full well that the vax is crap, and that natural herd immunity has already happened. But saying these things doesn’t make Big Pharma more billions – of which he takes his own kickback. Nor does it help to euthanize most of the world’s population – which is their ultimate goal.
So who do YOU want to emulate, Proclaimer? Dr. Rand, who speaks from a place of God-given common sense, actual science, actual medicine, and actual data? Or Dr. Deep State, who is happy to play fast and loose with our lives because it benefits him on a personal level?
I’m trying to emulate the former. It seems as if you starting to lean that way too. I welcome you to the battle. Glad to have you fighting the good fight with us.
Miia: “According to the NZ government website”?
Did you know that the other day, Jacinda Ardern made a Facebook post “Let’s discuss vaccine side effects”, or something like that. Largest amount of replies she had ever seen, and thousands of posts were deleted by her, or someone who manages her FB page. All the deleted posts were regarding severe side effects and deaths by NZers. So much for transparency, aye? And the fact you quoted the government website, despite what Mike and I have said tells me that you do not want to hear anything more. That’s fine. I will say no more here.
Miia, there was a local ABC news station that posted on FB asking people to share their Covid stories and how the vax helped them or saved them or whatever. They were really expecting to get some stories like that. Instead, they got thousands of replies from people who lost very healthy friends and family from getting the vax. The post was still up there as of last week, with more and more vaccine injuries and deaths being reported from actual people telling their own stories.
And yes, it’s clear that posting info from the fox who’s guarding the henhouse means nothing to any rational person.
But please don’t leave. Proclaimer seems to be coming around because of the things we are sharing. And who knows, maybe he’ll pass these things on to others in his circle, who’ll either pass them along or maybe won’t take the vax now that they know this stuff. Remember what Jesus said…
Luke 11:5-8… Then Jesus said to them, “Suppose you have a friend, and you go to him at midnight and say, ‘Friend, lend me three loaves of bread; friend of mine on a journey has come to me, and I have no food to offer him.’ And suppose the one inside answers, ‘Don’t bother me. The door is already locked, and my children and I are in bed. I can’t get up and give you anything.’ I tell you, even though he will not get up and give you the bread because of friendship, yet because of your shameless persistence he will surely get up and give you as much as you need.”
Don’t give up. Keep knocking.
Miia: Well, us so called “conspiracy theorists” have so far been a hundred percent correct. Can’t you see we are trying to save lives? We will just wait and see. Two years. I give it two years for the full effects to be seen. I hope I am wrong! I really do.
Noah was also a “conspiracy theorist”… until it started raining.
Unfortunately, I think we’ll start to see terrible effects in the upcoming flu season. There is now evidence that the “vax” decreases God’s natural immune system army inside our bodies. I think people who would have gotten the flu this coming season and had little or no effects from it will now end up in the hospital or worse. But like you, I really hope I’m wrong.
The good news is that up to 50% of the vaxxes given (in America at least) were reportedly placebos… nothing but saline solution. And at least one nurse was arrested for giving people nothing but placebos instead of the vax she was supposed to be giving them. Hopefully there are a bunch more like her who just haven’t been caught.
Miia: Paramedics, firefighters and police (canada) in a silent protest against mandatory covid vaccines. They face losing their jobs. A year ago they were considered heroes.
Senator Rand, who Proclaimer linked, brought up the same thing to Dr. Deep State. He pointed out that the nurses, doctors and first responders who are about to lose their jobs for not being vaxxed are the same heroes who worked tirelessly through the initial surge last year – with no vaccine. Many of them have already gotten Covid and have natural immunity. There is no logical reason for them to get the jab. And it’s pure tyranny for a government to try to force them to get something against their will.
This German doctor has started a bunch of lawsuits…
I pray that they are successful.
Pope Francis Calls for Global Governance to Combat Covid-19 and the Climate Crisis
September 28, 2021 by Andy RomanOn Monday, September 27, 2021, Pope Francis addressed the participants in the Plenary Assembly of the Pontifical Academy for Life and called on them to support international initiatives that create global governance against the risk of new epidemics. The Pope spoke about the “serious issues that have emerged in the past two years” due to the “Covid-19 pandemic” and pointed to his encyclical, Laudato Si’, to highlight the problems afflicting society:
“The theme you have chosen for these days of work is particularly topical: that of public health on the horizon of globalization. In fact, the pandemic crisis has made “both the cry of the earth and the cry of the poor” resound even more strongly (Laudato Si’ #49). We cannot be deaf to this double cry, we must listen to it well!” [1]
“The pandemic crisis has highlighted how profound is the ‘interdependence‘ (Laudato Si’ #84) both between us and between the human family and the ‘common home‘ (Laudato Si’ #164) Our societies, especially in the West, have tended to forget this interconnectedness.” [1]
So what is Pope Francis’ solution? He wants to create a global framework that will have authority over “all the inhabitants of the planet.” The Pope continued:“Therefore, international initiatives should be supported – I am thinking for example of those recently promoted by the G20 – aimed at creating a global governance for the health of all the inhabitants of the planet, that is to say a set of clear and internationally agreed rules, respectful of human dignity. Indeed, the risk of new pandemics will continue to be a threat for the future as well.” [1]
This “global governance” envisioned by Pope Francis will not only address the pandemic. The Pope is also calling for global governance in other areas:“In this period of time it is therefore urgent to reverse this harmful trend, and it is possible to do so through the synergy between different disciplines. Knowledge of biology and hygiene, medicine and epidemiology is needed, but also economics and sociology, anthropology and ecology. [1]
The Pope is calling for a global political body that will have the power to create legislation on a global scale so that it can reverse the harmful effects of climate change. This global political body will also change our economy. The Vatican is mixing faith with politics and is basically asking governments to come together and implement Catholic social doctrine. Pope Francis wants to mobilize political leaders around his message so that they can pass laws that will transform our global economic structure to a “green” system of justice as outlined in Laudato Si’.Pope Francis addressing the Plenary Assembly of the Pontifical Academy for Life on September 27, 2021.
This is what we see in Bible prophecy. The beast is leading a global campaign and is asking the kings of the earth to unite and support his policies. We are told what will happen:“These (kings) have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.” Revelation 17:13.
Prophecy says that the nations will bow down to the beast. This means that world governments will heed the Pope’s call to save the planet. One by one the nations will limit coal and other fossil fuels. They will push for green energy and embrace the whole climate change movement that is being spearheaded by Rome for one purpose – to implement Laudato Si’. Laudato Si’ calls for “Sunday” to be the “law of weekly rest” to save the environment.Revelation 13 and 17 describe a global religious power that will seek to dominate the political powers of the earth and be the head of this New World Order. If these prophetic words do not apply to Rome, then who do they refer to? Rome is immersed in politics and wants to create a world government. What the Pope asks has nothing to do with the gospel or the salvation of souls, but it does have everything to do with a Sunday law.
“By false representations and angry appeals they will stir up the passions of the people … they will resort to oppressive enactments … To secure popularity and patronage, legislators will yield to the demand for a Sunday law” (Testimonies, Vol. 5, p. 451).
Sources[1] https://www.vatican.va/content/francesco/it/speeches/2021/september/documents/20210927-assemblea-pav.html
Logical thinking.
Think about it. The Amish don’t get polio vaccines, and never have. Why haven’t they been completely wiped out by polio?
Logical thinking.
Maybe because they are more isolated from the world coupled the world being vaccinated anyway.
Isn’t that the exact strategy being used today?
Doesn’t that support the idea to be like the Amish by self-isolating?
And if the world outside got vaccinated, then can you see that this benefited them despite not getting the vaccine. It’s called herd immunity.
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