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  • #279051
    Ed J
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    Hi Marlin,

    Possibility #5: Matthew 1:18, 1:20.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #279059
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 17 2012,13:54)

    Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 17 2012,11:03)

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 16 2012,11:16)
    HI Kerwin,

            body  +  soul  +  spirit   =   you wholly / Son
             
    1 Thess 5:23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and
    I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved
    blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

    God bless
    Ed J


    Ed J.

    Your equation

    body  +  soul  +  spirit   =   you wholly / Son

    My response

    Jesus

    body(100% descended from David through Mary)  +  soul  +  spirit(100% reborn by the Spirit of God)   =   Jesus

    His spirit is born by God while his body is born of Mary.


    Hi Kerwin,

    Thanks for sharing your 'opinion' on this!
    I would suggest that you read my last post.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Ed J,

    The mother in the case study you directed me to was a chimera.  A chimera is the sad result of two human beings combining to form one human being.  One obviously dies and her soul departs to Sheol.  I do not see how this dreadful result of sin being in this world supports your case.

    Here is a case partenogenesis being artificially induced in human beings.   Parthenogenisis is a form of reproduction where the mother is the sole contributor of genetic material.

    Did God create DNA?

    #279065
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Feb. 18 2012,15:09)
    Hi all,

    I see that there are four explanations possible.

    1.  Jesus was the natural seed of Joseph and Mary.

    2.  Jesus was the natural seed of Joseph only.

    3.  Jesus was the natural seed of Mary only.

    4.  Jesus of God only.

    1.  If Jesus was of Joseph and Mary.   (FALSE)
        a.  You are saved by the blood of a JEW.  (contrary to scripture)
        b.  Jesus was born in sin, shaped in iniquity, come to the world speaking lies.  (contrary to scripture)
        c.  Any man could have done what Jesus did.  (contrary to scripture)

    2.  If Jesus was of Joseph and not Mary.  (FALSE)
       
       a,b & c above would apply.

    3.  If Jesus was of Mary and not Joseph.  (FALSE)

        a,b,& c above would apply.

    4.   Jesus if of GOD.  (TRUE)

    Scripture says that Jesus was the 2nd Adam.  Just as the 1st Adam was created, so is the second.  Adam had the blood of God in his veins and so did Jesus.

    When they came and told Jesus that His mother and brothers had come to see Him.  What did He say.
    Who is my mother?  Who does the will of my father.

    Even on the cross Jesus did not error.
    Jesus looked down and said “Woman behold thy Son”.
    Woman not Mother…

    He was the created Blood of God,  We are saved by the creative Blood of God, not by the blood of any man.

    Jesus is not another god, He is God, God became Flesh.  God created a flesh temple, who was every bit a man, just like the first Adam.

    God Bless
    Marlin


    all good

    this is false;Jesus is not another god, He is God, God became Flesh. God created a flesh temple, who was every bit a man, just like the first Adam.

    God Bless
    Marlin

    #279067
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 18 2012,09:33)
    Did God create DNA?


    Hi Kerwin,

    I would suggest that YHVH created the “Y” chromosome
    necessary for Jesus to be male, plus the “God Blood”
    necessary for the redemption of our souls sins.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #279068
    Ed J
    Participant

    HI Kerwin,

    The scientific article lines up with what the bible says concerning Jesus.
    You don't have to believe it if you don't want to, BUT THE FACTS REMAIN!!

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #279069
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Kerwin,

    Most people say what they believe, but
    they should believe what the bible says.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #279082
    kerwin
    Participant

    Ed J,

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    I would suggest that YHVH created the “Y” chromosome
    necessary for Jesus to be male,

    God miraculesly altered the X Chromosome to a Y Chromosome when he miraculesly formed Jesus from the flesh of Mary.  That is called genetic engineering.  

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    plus the “God Blood”
    necessary for the redemption of our souls sins.

    I have no idea what has led you to believe that God has blood as he is the Creator and not the creator.  Jesus saves us because he is innocent of sin and yet died revealing this world to be corrupt.  That is why it is written that those that believe will not be condemned with the world, 1 Corinthians 11:32 and the Prince of this world stands condemned, John 16:11.

    #279099
    Marlin1
    Participant

    Ed J,

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    Possibility #5: Matthew 1:18, 1:20.

    So you believe that the Holy Ghost is not God own Spirit?

    Marlin

    #279124
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 18 2012,09:54)

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Feb. 18 2012,15:09)
    Hi all,

    I see that there are four explanations possible.

    1.  Jesus was the natural seed of Joseph and Mary.

    2.  Jesus was the natural seed of Joseph only.

    3.  Jesus was the natural seed of Mary only.

    4.  Jesus of God only.

    1.  If Jesus was of Joseph and Mary.   (FALSE)
        a.  You are saved by the blood of a JEW.  (contrary to scripture)
        b.  Jesus was born in sin, shaped in iniquity, come to the world speaking lies.  (contrary to scripture)
        c.  Any man could have done what Jesus did.  (contrary to scripture)

    2.  If Jesus was of Joseph and not Mary.  (FALSE)
       
       a,b & c above would apply.

    3.  If Jesus was of Mary and not Joseph.  (FALSE)

        a,b,& c above would apply.

    4.   Jesus if of GOD.  (TRUE)

    Scripture says that Jesus was the 2nd Adam.  Just as the 1st Adam was created, so is the second.  Adam had the blood of God in his veins and so did Jesus.

    When they came and told Jesus that His mother and brothers had come to see Him.  What did He say.
    Who is my mother?  Who does the will of my father.

    Even on the cross Jesus did not error.
    Jesus looked down and said “Woman behold thy Son”.
    Woman not Mother…

    He was the created Blood of God,  We are saved by the creative Blood of God, not by the blood of any man.

    Jesus is not another god, He is God, God became Flesh.  God created a flesh temple, who was every bit a man, just like the first Adam.

    God Bless
    Marlin


    all good

    this is false;Jesus is not another god, He is God, God became Flesh.  God created a flesh temple, who was every bit a man, just like the first Adam.

    God Bless
    Marlin


    Hi T,
    If he is God then who is the God Who is IN HIM reconciling the world to Himself?

    #279125
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,
    God blood?
    These fantasies are drawn from your version?

    #279126
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 17 2012,18:44)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 17 2012,03:36)

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 12 2012,12:17)

    Quote (Jodi Lee @ Feb. 12 2012,10:16)
    Hi Ed J,

    Why don't you explain what it means?


    Hi Jodi,

    It means God's HolySpirit is Jesus' Father;
    Jesus is the ONLY begotten Son of God.
    (see Matt.1:18, 1:20 & Luke 1:35)

    God bless
    Ed J


    i Ed,
    Monogenes does not quite translate in the way you show.


    Hi Nick, YOU need to take that up with God.

    You need to get yourself a real bible; theAKJV Bible”. (Posts)   <– Seventh, eighth, and ninth

    Psalm 12:6-7 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
    Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them
    (in the AKJV Bible) from this generation for ever.
    Isaiah 28:11 For with stammering lips and another tongue
    (that is English) will he speak to this people.

    1Cor.14:27 (AKJV) If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two(Hebrew, Aramaic),
    or at the most by three(Greek), and that by course; and let one (“AKJV Bible”) translate.


                                     God's Signature  
                                    Proof of God=117
    GOD(26) → The Bible(63) → AKJV Bible(74) → The LORD JEHOVAH(151)

            יהוה=26 (God's Name: YHVH pronounced YÄ-hä-vā)
            YHVH=63 (God's Name יהוה translated into English)
            Jesus=74 (God's Son's name in English is: “Joshua”)
            HolySpirit=151 (“FATHER: The Word”: in all believers)
            God The Father=117 (Representing “GOD”: יהוה האלהים)

    John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think
    ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Hi Ed,
    It does not refer to the language used but to the number of speakers. Order must rule.

    The AKJV is a fanciful addition by you here.

    #279127
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,
    It seems you use circular self justifications in your doctrines.
    The AKJV seems to play an important part.
    But it seems to be heavily of man

    #279128
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,
    Yes Adam was a created son of God.
    No need for man's additions.

    Your love of the AKJV and the magic numbers blinds you to further growth in understanding IMO

    #279141
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Feb. 18 2012,14:06)
    Ed J,

    Quote
    Possibility #5:   Matthew 1:18, 1:20.

    So you believe that the Holy Ghost is not God own Spirit?

    Marlin


    Hi Matlin,

    The “HolySpirit” is God's Spirit, for God is Spirit. (see Luke 1:35 and John 4:24)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #279142
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 18 2012,18:12)
    Hi Ed,
    God blood?
    These fantasies are drawn from your version?


    Hi Nick, who is the “HE” and “HIS” in this verse, Nick?  Are you an overseer of God? Do you feed the flock?

    YOU don't have to believe the record of the bible if you don't want to, but I won't put mans ideas above God's!
    “Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the HolySpirit (Acts 20:28)
    hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.”

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #279178
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,
    I knew it was that akjv verse that had tripped you up.
    His son was truly His son but not with different blood nature.
    Adam was also His son and we inherit the blood he was made with.

    #279192
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 18 2012,16:15)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 18 2012,18:12)
    Hi Ed,
    God blood?
    These fantasies are drawn from your version?


    Hi Nick, who is the “HE” and “HIS” in this verse, Nick?  Are you an overseer of God?  Do you feed the flock?

    YOU don't have to believe the record of the bible if you don't want to, but I won't put mans ideas above God's!
    “Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the HolySpirit (Acts 20:28)
    hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.”

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Ed J.

    Here is the NIV versions translation of the same verse.  

    Acts 20:28

    New International Version (NIV)
    28 Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God,[a] which he bought with his own blood.
    Footnotes:

    a)    Acts 20:28 Many manuscripts of the Lord
    b)    Acts 20:28 Or with the blood of his own Son.

    The manuscripts themselves disagree on whether it is written “Church of God” or “Church of the Lord”.

    The translators disagree on whether blood or Son is the appropriate translation.

    Is that the only witness you have to support the idea that the Creator has blood?

    That idea sounds like it comes from those that believe Jesus is God. The Anglicans are Trinitarians.

    #279194
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,
    You restrict yourself to one human choice of manuscripts.
    No manuscripts are perfect and we have no originals.

    #279240
    Marlin1
    Participant

    Ed J, In this we agree, The Holy Spirit is God's own Spirit. And we also agree that we are saved by the blood of God.

    Marlin

    #283079
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Marlin,Lk 1.31
    “And behold you will conceive in your womb..”
    Lk 2.21
    “..his name was then callled Jesus, the name given by the angel before he was conceived in the womb..”

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