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  • #277334
    Ed J
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    Quote (Jodi Lee @ Feb. 12 2012,10:16)
    Hi Ed J,

    Why don't you explain what it means?


    Hi Jodi,

    It means God's HolySpirit is Jesus' Father;
    Jesus is the ONLY begotten Son of God.
    (see Matt.1:18, 1:20 & Luke 1:35)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #278556
    Jodi Lee
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 12 2012,12:17)

    Quote (Jodi Lee @ Feb. 12 2012,10:16)
    Hi Ed J,

    Why don't you explain what it means?


    Hi Jodi,

    It means God's HolySpirit is Jesus' Father;
    Jesus is the ONLY begotten Son of God.
    (see Matt.1:18, 1:20 & Luke 1:35)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Ed J,

    How can you call Jesus a man then? How do you believe Jesus was just like us?

    You are teaching that Jesus was half human half god. How can you not see what such a false and complete pagan idea that is?  

    Jesus was 100% just like you and me BIOLOGICALLY. He was not half Holy Spirit, he had the Holy Spirit working in him, and he chose to follow that influence.

    #278560
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Jodi Lee @ Feb. 16 2012,14:13)
    Ed J,

    How can you call Jesus a man then?


    Hi Jodi,

    How can YOU call  Barak Obama  black?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #278561
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Jodi Lee @ Feb. 16 2012,14:13)
    Ed J,

    How do you believe Jesus was just like us?


    Hi Jodi,

    Because we were created in God' image as well. (see Gen.1:26)

    How many images of YHVH are there?   <– Please answer

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #278562
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Jodi Lee @ Feb. 16 2012,14:13)
    Ed J,

    You are teaching that Jesus was half human half god.


    Hi Jodi, that is what the information in the bible suggests.

                            Jesus lineage illustrated (as per the bible)

    “Son of Man”: 25%; Mary's mother's lineage was of the tribe of Levi. (Luke 1:5, 1:36)
    “Son of Man”: 25%: Mary's father's lineage was (Judah) through Nathan(son of David). (Luke 3:23-31)
    “Son of God”: 50%: Jesus' Father was the “HolySpirit”; NOT Joseph! (Mathew 1:18 / Mathew 1:20 / Luke 1:35)

    Birth: Jesus was 50% HolySpirit(God)(Matt.1:18 / Matt.1:20 / Luke 1:35), 25% Levite(Priest) and 25% Judah(King)!
    Baptism by John the baptizer, Jesus was filled with the HolySpirit(God) beyond measure! (John 3:34 / John 1:14)

    Here is why Jesus is called both the “Son of Man” and the “Son of God”…

                       Mother         Father
                        Mary         HolySpirit
                         50%           50%
                             \              /
                               \          /
                                 Jesus
                                /        \
                              /            \        
                            /                \
                  Son of Man     Son of God
                 (Mark 6:3)        (Luke 1:35)

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
    יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16),

    #278565
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 12 2012,01:32)
    Hi Jodi, here are the missing parts of YOUR formula…

                            Jesus lineage illustrated (as per the bible)

    “Son of Man”: 25%; Mary's mother's lineage was of the tribe of Levi. (Luke 1:5, 1:36)
    “Son of Man”: 25%: Mary's father's lineage was (Judah) through Nathan(son of David). (Luke 3:23-31)
    “Son of God”: 50%: Jesus' Father was the “HolySpirit”; NOT Joseph! (Mathew 1:18 / Mathew 1:20 / Luke 1:35)

    Birth: Jesus was 50% HolySpirit(God)(Matt.1:18 / Matt.1:20 / Luke 1:35), 25% Levite(Priest) and 25% Judah(King)!
    Baptism by John the baptizer, Jesus was filled with the HolySpirit(God) beyond measure! (John 3:34 / John 1:14)

    Here is why Jesus is called both the “Son of Man” and the “Son of God”…

                       Mother         Father
                        Mary         HolySpirit
                         50%           50%
                             \              /
                               \          /
                                 Jesus
                                /        \
                              /            \        
                            /                \
                  Son of Man     Son of God
                 (Mark 6:3)        (Luke 1:35)

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
    יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)


    Ed J,

    What or who is the Saintly Spirit?

    Does thee Saintly Spirit have a physical presence?

    Is a human being composed of both a flesh side and a spirit side?

    Are two components of the spirit side soul and spirit?

    #278576
    Ed J
    Participant

    HI Kerwin,

            body  +  soul  +  spirit   =   you wholly / Son
             
    1 Thess 5:23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and
    I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved
    blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #278577
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 16 2012,14:41)
    Ed J,

    What or who is the Saintly Spirit?

    Does thee Saintly Spirit have a physical presence?

    Is a human being composed of both a flesh side and a spirit side?

    Are two components of the spirit side soul and spirit?


    Hi Kerwin,

    What is:  'the Saintly Spirit?'??

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #278634
    shimmer
    Participant

    Jodi, good posts you made and points.  I agree with everything that you said apart from the genealogy of Jesus.  This would be through Mary's line would it not?

    Mary it says was a virgin and knew no man.  So if that's what the Scripture says then it must be true.  If God simply said 'Let there be light' and there was light, then a Virgin Birth is conceivable!

    #278678
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 12 2012,12:17)

    Quote (Jodi Lee @ Feb. 12 2012,10:16)
    Hi Ed J,

    Why don't you explain what it means?


    Hi Jodi,

    It means God's HolySpirit is Jesus' Father;
    Jesus is the ONLY begotten Son of God.
    (see Matt.1:18, 1:20 & Luke 1:35)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    i Ed,
    Monogenes does not quite translate in the way you show.

    #278679
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,
    Are you a man
    or are you half of your father and half of your mother?

    Jodi,
    The sperm of Joseph gets no mention in the bible.

    #278781
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 16 2012,11:16)
    HI Kerwin,

            body  +  soul  +  spirit   =   you wholly / Son
             
    1 Thess 5:23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and
    I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved
    blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Ed J.

    Your equation

    body + soul + spirit = you wholly / Son

    My response

    Jesus

    body(100% descended from David through Mary) + soul + spirit(100% reborn by the Spirit of God) = Jesus

    His spirit is born by God while his body is born of Mary.

    #278860
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 17 2012,03:36)

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 12 2012,12:17)

    Quote (Jodi Lee @ Feb. 12 2012,10:16)
    Hi Ed J,

    Why don't you explain what it means?


    Hi Jodi,

    It means God's HolySpirit is Jesus' Father;
    Jesus is the ONLY begotten Son of God.
    (see Matt.1:18, 1:20 & Luke 1:35)

    God bless
    Ed J


    i Ed,
    Monogenes does not quite translate in the way you show.


    Hi Nick, YOU need to take that up with God.

    You need to get yourself a real bible; theAKJV Bible”. (Posts)   <– Seventh, eighth, and ninth

    Psalm 12:6-7 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
    Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them
    (in the AKJV Bible) from this generation for ever.
    Isaiah 28:11 For with stammering lips and another tongue
    (that is English) will he speak to this people.

    1Cor.14:27 (AKJV) If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two(Hebrew, Aramaic),
    or at the most by three(Greek), and that by course; and let one (“AKJV Bible”) translate.


                                     God's Signature  
                                    Proof of God=117
    GOD(26) → The Bible(63) → AKJV Bible(74) → The LORD JEHOVAH(151)

            יהוה=26 (God's Name: YHVH pronounced YÄ-hä-vā)
            YHVH=63 (God's Name יהוה translated into English)
            Jesus=74 (God's Son's name in English is: “Joshua”)
            HolySpirit=151 (“FATHER: The Word”: in all believers)
            God The Father=117 (Representing “GOD”: יהוה האלהים)

    John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think
    ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #278861
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 17 2012,03:41)
    Hi Ed,
    Are you a man
    or are you half of your father and half of your mother?

    Jodi,
    The sperm of Joseph gets no mention in the bible.


    Hi Nick,

    My genetics are, are you suggesting that either Jesus' or yours are not?

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Feb. 16 2012,13:20)
    Ed J,

    Quote
    Your assumption is also proven to be Scientifically FALSE! (1Tm.6:20)
    You have never heard of “a Chimera” ?   <– Please read link

    I did check it out and read it all.  You must of just read the first part.  The second part said that her children did match her DNA of a cervical smear test.  Blood comes from both parents, always has and always will.

    God Bless
    Marlin


    Hi Marlin,

    Did you somehow miss the part where the article said that
    the mothers blood DNA did not match the child's [blood] DNA?

    Jesus(74) had “God Blood(74) running through his veins; we are both in agreement on this issue!


    BUT the Science of this case study is in agreement with my analogy, but runs contrary to your assertion:

    Point #1 The DNA of the mothers blood did NOT match the DNA of the Child's blood. (this supports my analogy)

    Point #2 The DNA of the Child was found to be present in the mother,
                   but MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE DNA was actually from the mother.
                   (this too supports my analogy, but it runs contrary to your assertion)
                   The Child had the Mothers DNA, but the Child's DNA did NOT match the Mothers blood.

    I'm glad that you did read all the way through the report,
    it's TOO bad, though, that you failed to draw the correct conclusion.


    What conclusions can we draw from this information?

    1. Jesus had “God Blood”, while Mary had Adam's blood.
    2. The Scientific study allows for Jesus to have Mary's DNA.
    3. You saying that point number 2 is not be possible is FALSE!
    4. The genealogy in Luke 3:23-31 can ONLY be a physical lineage.
    5. the report allows for Rom.1:3 to be “physical” as well as “spiritual”.

    Please dear brother learn from this information.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #278862
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,
    Isaac too was an only begotten[monogenes]son.[Heb 11.17]
    But he was not the ONLY begotten son of Abraham was he?

    #278863
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 17 2012,11:03)

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 16 2012,11:16)
    HI Kerwin,

            body  +  soul  +  spirit   =   you wholly / Son
             
    1 Thess 5:23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and
    I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved
    blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

    God bless
    Ed J


    Ed J.

    Your equation

    body  +  soul  +  spirit   =   you wholly / Son

    My response

    Jesus

    body(100% descended from David through Mary)  +  soul  +  spirit(100% reborn by the Spirit of God)   =   Jesus

    His spirit is born by God while his body is born of Mary.


    Hi Kerwin,

    Thanks for sharing your 'opinion' on this!
    I would suggest that you read my last post.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #278864
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 17 2012,18:53)
    Hi ED,
    Isaac too was an only begotten[monogenes]son.[Heb 11.17]
    But he was not the ONLY begotten son of Abraham was he?


    Hi Nick,

    Was he not the ONLY begotten of the promise that YHVH gave to Abraham concerning “HIS SEED”?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #278865
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ed,
    That is one possibility.
    So what of the greek meaning?

    #278889
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 17 2012,19:00)
    Hi ed,
    That is one possibility.
    So what of the greek meaning?


    Hi Nick,

    The meaning you are alluding to would explain Luke 3:38, would it not?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #279043
    Marlin1
    Participant

    Hi all,

    I see that there are four explanations possible.

    1.  Jesus was the natural seed of Joseph and Mary.

    2.  Jesus was the natural seed of Joseph only.

    3.  Jesus was the natural seed of Mary only.

    4.  Jesus of God only.

    1.  If Jesus was of Joseph and Mary.   (FALSE)
        a.  You are saved by the blood of a JEW.  (contrary to scripture)
        b.  Jesus was born in sin, shaped in iniquity, come to the world speaking lies.  (contrary to scripture)
        c.  Any man could have done what Jesus did.  (contrary to scripture)

    2.  If Jesus was of Joseph and not Mary.  (FALSE)
       
       a,b & c above would apply.

    3.  If Jesus was of Mary and not Joseph.  (FALSE)

        a,b,& c above would apply.

    4.   Jesus if of GOD.  (TRUE)

    Scripture says that Jesus was the 2nd Adam.  Just as the 1st Adam was created, so is the second.  Adam had the blood of God in his veins and so did Jesus.

    When they came and told Jesus that His mother and brothers had come to see Him.  What did He say.
    Who is my mother?  Who does the will of my father.

    Even on the cross Jesus did not error.
    Jesus looked down and said “Woman behold thy Son”.
    Woman not Mother…

    He was the created Blood of God,  We are saved by the creative Blood of God, not by the blood of any man.

    Jesus is not another god, He is God, God became Flesh.  God created a flesh temple, who was every bit a man, just like the first Adam.

    God Bless
    Marlin

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