Compound unity scriptural database

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2 Thessalonians 1:1
Paul, Silas and Timothy, To the church of the Thessalonians in God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ:

This scripture shows that the church of the Thessalonians was part of the compound unity made up of Jehovah, Jesus and them.

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Eph 5:5
For this you know with certainty, that no immoral or impure person or covetous man, who is an idolater, has an inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God.

The kingdom is a compound unity which belongs to Christ AND God together. They own the kingdom of which believer's inherit. Believer's do not inherit the Father as someone said, but believer's inheritance is in the kingdom of Christ AND God.

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Col 1:9 For this reason also, since the day we heard of it, we have not ceased to pray for you and to ask that you may be filled with the knowledge of His will in all spiritual wisdom and understanding, 10so that you will walk in a manner worthy of the Lord, to please Him in all respects, bearing fruit in every good work and increasing in the knowledge of God; 11strengthened with all power, according to His glorious might, for the attaining of all steadfastness and patience; joyously 12giving thanks to the Father, who has qualified us to share in the inheritance of the saints in Light.

13For He rescued us from the domain of darkness, and transferred us to the kingdom of His beloved Son, 14in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.

Here we see that believers are called 'saints' in the compound unity called the kingdom which belongs to God's beloved Son. BTW, Believer's are never said to be theos/gods in the kingdom as some here on HN believe they will become and likewise, Jesus is never ever called a 'saint.' Jesus is the Lord which the saints are to walk in a manner worthy of the Jesus, to please Him in all respects, bearing fruit in every good work and increasing in the knowledge of God.

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Daniel 7:18
But the saints of the Most High will receive the kingdom and will possess it forever—yes, for ever and ever.’

Daniel 7:22
until the Ancient of Days came and pronounced judgment in favor of the saints of the Most High, and the time came when they possessed the kingdom.

Daniel 7:27
Then the sovereignty, power and greatness of the kingdoms under the whole heaven will be handed over to the saints, the people of the Most High. His kingdom will be an everlasting kingdom, and all rulers will worship and obey him.

These scriptures show that the Kingdom not only belongs to the Father and the Son, but also to the Saints.  All of them together form a compound unity that will rule over the coming Kingdom.  In verse 27, it seems as though the compound unity of the Father and the Saints is called by a SINGULAR prououn, suggesting that perhaps the Saints are also a part of our Godhead.  

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In response to what Mike just posted go here, second post down:
https://heavennet.net/cgi-bin….y308965

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Jeremiah 16:5 For thus said Jehovah: Do not enter the house of a mourning-feast, Nor go to lament nor bemoan for them, For I have removed My peace from this people, An affirmation of Jehovah, The kindness and the mercies.

Here is an example of a singular demonstrative pronoun, 'this,' with a compound unity designated as 'people.'

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Matthew 15:8
“‘This people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from me;

Again we see an example of a singular demomstrative pronoun, 'this.' with a compound unity designated as 'people.'

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Isaiah 54:5
“For your husband is your Maker, Whose name is the LORD of hosts; And your Redeemer is the Holy One of Israel, Who is called the God of all the earth.

Very interesting fact about the above scripture is this:

“For thy Maker is thine husband – Both these words, 'maker' and 'husband,' in the Hebrew are in the plural number. But the form is evidently the pluralis excellentiae – a form denoting majesty and honor”

Now, if both of these words are plural but are not translated as plural, how many more of these plural words were changed to the singular in the OT.  As I become aware of them, I will put them up here.

This commentator justifies this by saying that the plural words represent a plural of excellence.  I suggest that it may represent a compound unity of God being more than one person doing a singular action as we see in this thread.  John Gill sees this possiblilty in his commentary.

Read Barnes' commentary and Gill's commentary on the plural forms as being the original, here:
http://bible.cc/isaiah/54-5.htm

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Psalm 149:2
Here is another with a plural word that was translated as a singular.

King James Bible
Let Israel rejoice in him that made him: let the children of Zion be joyful in their King.

If the plural form were left intact, this verse should read:
Let Israel rejoice in his Makers: let the children of Zion be joyful in their King.

Gill's commentary in part:

Let Israel rejoice in him that made him,…. Or, “in his Makers” (i), Father, Son, and Spirit; as in Job 35:10; see also Ecclesiastes 12:1; for all three Persons had a concern in the creation of man at first, “let us make man”, &c. Genesis 1:26; and have in the formation of every individual man; of the Israelites as men, and of them as a body politic and ecclesiastic, being raised up, constituted, and formed by the Lord in their civil and church state, and therefore had reason to rejoice in him, Deuteronomy 32:6; and so have all the spiritual Israel of God, whom he has chosen, redeemed, and called; every Israelite indeed, all who are the workmanship of God, the people he has formed for himself, and to show forth his praise: these should rejoice in God the Father, who has chosen them in Christ, blessed them with all spiritual blessings in him, sent him to redeem them, has justified them by his righteousness, pardoned their sins through his blood, adopted them and made them heirs of glory; and in the Son of God their Redeemer, they should rejoice in his person, in his righteousness, sacrifice, and fulness; and in the Holy Spirit, who has regenerated and sanctified them, is their Comforter, and the earnest of their future glory;

Also, the King James translator notes says:
“King James Translators' Notes

in him…: Heb. in his Makers”
from here:
http://bible.cc/psalms/149-2.htm

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Here is another from the OT where the plural verb is translated as a singular verb:

King James Bible
And Joshua said unto the people, Ye cannot serve the LORD: for he is an holy God; he is a jealous God; he will not forgive your transgressions nor your sins.

According to the Hebrew, it appears that this verse should say:
And Joshua said unto the people, Ye cannot serve the LORD: for the holy ONES are HE;…

Gill says:
“In the Hebrew text it is, “for the Holy Ones are he”: which may serve to illustrate and confirm the doctrine of the trinity of, persons in the unity of the divine Essence, or of the three divine holy Persons, holy Father, holy Son, holy Spirit, as the one God, see Isaiah 6:3, “

The notes on the KJ translator notes:
“holy God: Heb. holy Gods”

from here:
http://bible.cc/joshua/24-19.htm

Is this not interesting…hmmmm.

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Another OT verse where the plural 'Gods' is translated as the singular and so also the predicate which is plural is translated as the singular

Gen 20:10 And Abimelech said to Abraham, “What have you encountered, that you have done this thing?” 11Abraham said, “Because I thought, surely there is no fear of God in this place, and they will kill me because of my wife. 12“Besides, she actually is my sister, the daughter of my father, but not the daughter of my mother, and she became my wife; 13and it came about, when God caused me to wander from my father’s house, that I said to her, ‘This is the kindness which you will show to me: everywhere we go, say of me, “He is my brother.”’”

If the plural form were translated in v. 13, it would read:
and it came about, when the Gods caused me to wander…

Clarke's Commentary on the Bible

When God caused me to wander – Here the word אלהים Elohim is used with a plural verb, (התעו hithu, caused me to wander), which is not very usual in the Hebrew language, as this plural noun is generally joined with verbs in the singular number. Because there is a departure from the general mode in this instance, some have contended that the word Elohim signifies princes in this place, and suppose it to refer to those in Chaldea, who expelled Abraham because he would not worship the fire; but the best critics, and with them the Jews, allow that Elohim here signifies the true God. Abraham probably refers to his first call.

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John Gill:
And it came to pass, when God caused me to wander from my father's house,…. In Ur of the Chaldees, from whence God called him to go forth; which laid him under an obligation to depart from thence, and move from place to place, and go he knew not where, as in Hebrews 11:8; or “the Gods”, as it is in the plural number, and so the verb in construction with it; not the idol gods, the gods of the Gentiles, as the Targum of Jonathan, who interprets the words thus,”and it was when the worshippers of idols sought to cause men to err, and I went from my father's house;''but the true God, as Jarchi, Aben Ezra, and Ben Melech acknowledge, and is by many Christian interpreters understood of the three Persons in the Godhead:

http://bible.cc/genesis/20-13.htm

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Here we have again an instance where the translators changed the form from plural to singular, the verb is also plural:

King James Bible
And what one nation in the earth is like thy people, even like Israel, whom God went to redeem for a people to himself, and to make him a name, and to do for you great things and terrible, for thy land, before thy people, which thou redeemedst to thee from Egypt, from the nations and their gods?

Gill explains:
Gill's Exposition of the Entire Bible

And what one nation in the earth is like thy people, even like Israel,…. For the knowledge and worship of the true God among them, for laws and or given them, and for blessings of goodness bestowed upon them:

whom God went to redeem for a people to himself; the words are plural, “whom the gods went to redeem”; the Targum is,”they that were sent from the Lord,''meaning Moses and Aaron, of whom Jarchi interprets them, of the first of which it is said, “I have made thee a god unto Pharaoh”, Exodus 7:1; but Kimchi and R. Isaiah understand it of the true God, only suppose, as the former, that the plural expression is used for the sake of honour and glory; whereas, no doubt, respect is had to the three divine Persons in the Trinity, who were all concerned in the redemption of Israel, see Isaiah 63:9, where mention is made of the Lord, and of the Angel of his presence, and of his holy Spirit, as engaged therein:

from here:
http://bible.cc/2_samuel/7-23.htm

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Here is another of those verses in the OT that has a plural translated as a singular:

Ecclesiates 12:1 Remember also your Creator in the days of your youth, before the evil days come and the years draw near when you will say, “I have no delight in them”;

Here, the word 'Creator' is actually a plural word in the original Hebrew.

A couple of commentaries say:
Gill's Exposition of the Entire Bible
Remember now thy Creator in the days of thy youth,…. Or “Creators” (b); as “Makers”, Job 35:10; for more than one were concerned, as in the creation of all things in general, so of man in particular, Genesis 1:26; and these are neither more nor fewer than three; and are Father, Son, Spirit; the one God that has created men, Malachi 2:10; the Father, who is the God of all flesh, and the Father of spirits; the former both of the bodies and souls of men, Jeremiah 31:27; the Son, by whom all things are created; for he that is the Redeemer and husband of his church, which are characters and relations peculiar to the Son, is the Creator, Isaiah 43:1; and the Holy Spirit not only garnished the heavens, and moved upon the face of the waters, but is the Maker of men, and gives them life, Job 33:4.

Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary
Creator-“Remember” that thou art not thine own, but God's property; for He has created thee (Ps 100:3). Therefore serve Him with thy “all” (Mr 12:30), and with thy best days, not with the dregs of them (Pr 8:17; 22:6; Jer 3:4; La 3:27). The Hebrew is “Creators,” plural, implying the plurality of persons, as in Ge 1:26; so Hebrew, “Makers” (Isa 54:5).

http://bible.cc/ecclesiastes/12-1.htm

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Look at these two verses together through the eyes of God, in His fullness, being a unity of the Father and the Son as the one Jehovah.

Romans 11:33 Oh, the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are His judgments and unfathomable His ways! 34For WHO HAS KNOWN THE MIND OF THE LORD, OR WHO BECAME HIS COUNSELOR? 35Or WHO HAS FIRST GIVEN TO HIM THAT IT MIGHT BE PAID BACK TO HIM AGAIN? 36For from Him and through Him and to Him are all things. To Him be the glory forever. Amen.

1 Cor 8:6 yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.

Regarding the Son:
Col 1:16 For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities– all things have been created through Him and for Him.

Regarding the Word that was in the beginning with God:
John 1:3 All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being.

Romans 11 seems to talk about Jehovah in the fullest sense and 1 Cor 8:6 seems to talk about the members within the unity of the fullness of Jehovah.

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Numbers 21:2

And Israel vowed a vow to the LORD and said, “If you will indeed give this people into my hand, then I will devote their cities to destruction.”

Here a compound unity called “Israel” uses singular pronouns such as 'my' and 'I.'

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I just came across Jeremiah 10:10 which has 'living' in the plural next to 'elohim' which is in the plural and the 'He' which is singular:

But Yahweh is the true God; he is the living God, and an everlasting King: at his wrath the earth trembles, and the nations are not able to withstand his indignation.

Here is what John Gill has to say about that:

But the Lord is the true God,…. In opposition to all nominal and fictitious deities, which are not by nature God, only by name, and in the foolish imagination of the people: or, “the Lord God is truth” (t); that cannot lie, is true to his covenant and promises, and will never deceive those that worship and serve him, and rely upon him:

he is the living God; that has life in himself, and is the author and giver of life to others; to all men natural life, to some men spiritual and eternal life; whereas the gods of the Gentiles have no life in themselves; are either dead men, or lifeless and inanimate things, stocks and stones, and can give no life to others. The words are in the plural number, “he is the living Gods”; not for the sake of honour and glory, as Kimchi observes; but as denoting a trinity of Persons in the unity of the divine essence: for though the words , “living Gods”, that is, living divine Ones, or Persons, are in the plural number, yet “he”, is in the singular; which is worthy of observation. The Syriac version renders it, “the God of the living”; and so an Oxford Arabic MS, see Matthew 22:32.

From: http://bible.cc/jeremiah/10-10.htm

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Here is another verse where 'living God' is in the plural for each word in the Hebrew yet 'voice' is singular as well as the verb 'speaking'.

Deut 5:26
For who of all flesh is he who hath heard the voice of the living God speaking out of the midst of the fire like us — and doth live?

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John 3:16

NET Bible (©2006)
For this is the way God loved the world: He gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life.

The word 'everyone' has the sense of plurality but is written in the singular as well as the verbs that go with it.

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Oh why not throw one in there and break up the one person discussion.

Here we have a compounded unity of three. A classic Trinity. A new Trinity. A new religion is born perhaps?

“I charge you, in the sight of God and Christ Jesus and the elect angels, to keep these instructions without partiality, and to do nothing out of favoritism.”

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“About eight days after Jesus said this, he took Peter, John and James with him and went up onto a mountain to pray.”

One Man but 3 persons perhaps?

More food for thought.

“The two Witnesses.”

One Witness, 2 persons? A Binity?

The mystery deepens.

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