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The woman only heard second hand about the ban on eating fruit from the tree in the middle of the garden of Eden. God spoke to the man, who blamed the woman who blamed the serpent.The man was frightened because of his nakedness. Is this the origin of fear?He was blamed by God for listening to his wife!
Later God said
” See. The man has become like one of US knowing what is good and what is bad! Therefore he cannot be allowed to put out his hand to take fruit from the tree of life also, and thus eat of it and live forever” And so they were cast out of the garden.
The fruit from tree of life is a prize for the victors from the Church of Ephesus in Rev 2 .7. In Rev 22.2 there are at least two such trees producing fruit monthly as in Ez 47.12-medicine for the nations-and those who wash their robes have free access to them in v14.Hi reality,
Here are the trees of life. Rev 2 says they are in Paradise which suggests Paradise is on earth as all the other references are to earth I believe.Hi Nick. I'm new to the idea that there are people in the world other than Jehovah's Witnesses who believe that the righteous will live on a paradise earth. Sure there are a couple of groups, but in general, it's not a common belief somehow.
However, the idea that no human will ever go to heaven at any time is one that I still can't believe you hold to. Are there any topics in this forum that cover that?It's recently been asked what we have in common, what we agree on. I don't know that this thread will be of much help, but it bears the name “common ground.”
A couple of thoughts about love
Love is corrective : as many as I love I rebuke and chasten
Love needs a direction or it is just human emotion
Because they recieved not the love of the truth that they might be saved and for this reason God shall send them strong delusion that they should believe a lie.
Don't get me wrong I think God is love, love is the first and greatest commandment.
But just as knowledge doesn't gaurantee wisdom love for love sake doesn't hold any gaurantees.
Hope I don't get misunderstood with these comments…Common Ground
Seems the only way a common agreement comes on the Truth of God's Word is when it is Spiritually imparted. Mere intellectual study of the Words of God, although it is fine, remains human concept with as many divergent paths as you can imagine. But when the Spirit of God interprets the words it becomes life.
Denominations – which is nothing more than taking a name for yourself other than that of God, are nothing new – in Jesus time you had Saducee, Pharisee, Herodian …
Each claiming to believe the same God, each using the common ground of the Law and the Prophets.
Which is why I think it is important to do 2 things
Read the Bible
and Pray to God for understanding of its meaning by His Spirit.
Nick is right, we cannot just take any spirit and trust it is of God, we have to see that it is in line with the Word in what it is teaching.Hello,
I still think we should pick a day and everyone pray together on that day.
Test all Spirits. I just trust Jesus
Luk 11:11 And of which of you that is a father shall his son ask a loaf, and he give him a stone? or a fish, and he for a fish give him a serpent?
Luk 11:12 Or if he shall ask an egg, will he give him a scorpion?
Luk 11:13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?Quote (kenrch @ April 04 2006,02:48) Hello, I still think we should pick a day and everyone pray together on that day.
Test all Spirits. I just trust Jesus
Luk 11:11 And of which of you that is a father shall his son ask a loaf, and he give him a stone? or a fish, and he for a fish give him a serpent?
Luk 11:12 Or if he shall ask an egg, will he give him a scorpion?
Luk 11:13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?
I personnally believe we will never accomplish anything worthwhile unless it is of God, and how else do we know what is of God, unless we spend time with Him.I was trying to find the lowest common denominator, and could only come up with the obvious, that we all believe in God (but are unclear who that is exactly)
But then I came across the “creation and science” section, where there is a vote thread called: “Do you believe the evolution theory is true.The votes were:
2 Not sure
2 Yes
13 Not trueI'm guessing those “not sure's” or “yes's” were from athiests who don't really come on here very much.
But I'm wondering if there are people on here who believe in evolution and God at the same time.Hi,
This is what Paul called the basics. Can we agree on them yet?
Heb 6
” 1Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,2Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
3And this will we do, if God permit.”
Most religions that call themselves christian do not include all these things. All are zealous in their missions but zeal never was useful without truth.
The Salvation Army does not consider water baptism necessary and many do not include the baptism of the Spirit thus leading to communities without life.
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