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It is good to obey the commandments and the Spirit will lead and enable us to do so. But we should not think that doing so makes us in any way righteous as we already have put on the robes of righteousness of Christ.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 02 2007,18:15) Hi,
It is good to obey the commandments and the Spirit will lead and enable us to do so. But we should not think that doing so makes us in any way righteous as we already have put on the robes of righteousness of Christ.
To my recollection no one has said that.Are you saying that the law of God is for Gentiles? And not just Jews?
Quote To my recollection no one has said that. I agree.
In Christ we are Free FROM Sin but not Free TO Sin.
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PhoenixQuote (Phoenix @ Mar. 02 2007,19:14) Quote To my recollection no one has said that. I agree.
In Christ we are Free FROM Sin but not Free TO Sin.
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Phoenix
Amen
We are freed from past sin before repentance.
If we sin in the future we can be forgiven for he is faithful and just to forgive us.
If we continue to intentionally sin and live a sinful life then we fall away and loose salvation.
Quote (Morning Star @ Mar. 02 2007,19:47) We are freed from past sin before repentance. If we sin in the future we can be forgiven for he is faithful and just to forgive us.
If we continue to intentionally sin and live a sinful life then we fall away and loose salvation.
Sure when we accept Christ we are forgiven of our sin.Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Act 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
When we fall, miss the mark, sin, then He is faithful to forgive us as long as we repent, turn away from that sin. Does that mean that we won't lie or lust ever again while in this flesh?
Rom 7:22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:
Rom 7:23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
Rom 7:24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
Rom 7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.Quote (kenrch @ Mar. 02 2007,18:27) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 02 2007,18:15) Hi,
It is good to obey the commandments and the Spirit will lead and enable us to do so. But we should not think that doing so makes us in any way righteous as we already have put on the robes of righteousness of Christ.
To my recollection no one has said that.Are you saying that the law of God is for Gentiles? And not just Jews?
Hi kenrch,
The Law of the Spirit is for all in Christ and reflects, in love, the Ten commandments.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 02 2007,20:24) Quote (kenrch @ Mar. 02 2007,18:27) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 02 2007,18:15) Hi,
It is good to obey the commandments and the Spirit will lead and enable us to do so. But we should not think that doing so makes us in any way righteous as we already have put on the robes of righteousness of Christ.
To my recollection no one has said that.Are you saying that the law of God is for Gentiles? And not just Jews?
Hi kenrch,
The Law of the Spirit is for all in Christ and reflects, in love, the Ten commandments.
AmenBUT——?
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 02 2007,20:33) Hi kenrch
You say
“Sure when we accept Christ we are forgiven of our sin.”
Is this written?
Nick we have been through this before.Yes when you accept Jesus as your Lord and saviour AND are baptized then you are forgiven.
If you wish to discuss baptism then we should go to that thread.
Quote (kenrch @ Mar. 02 2007,20:55) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 02 2007,20:33) Hi kenrch
You say
“Sure when we accept Christ we are forgiven of our sin.”
Is this written?
Nick we have been through this before.Yes when you accept Jesus as your Lord and saviour AND are baptized then you are forgiven.
If you wish to discuss baptism then we should go to that thread.
Hi MS,
NO repentance required just ACCEPTANCE of Jesus?
Is this written?It is a popular new gospel that we just have to ACCEPT Jesus as our Lord and Saviour.
But he must know us, and we must be reborn into him but our acceptance of him is not relevant.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 02 2007,20:58) Quote (kenrch @ Mar. 02 2007,20:55) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 02 2007,20:33) Hi kenrch
You say
“Sure when we accept Christ we are forgiven of our sin.”
Is this written?
Nick we have been through this before.Yes when you accept Jesus as your Lord and saviour AND are baptized then you are forgiven.
If you wish to discuss baptism then we should go to that thread.
Hi MS,
NO repentance required just ACCEPTANCE of Jesus?
Is this written?It is a popular new gospel that we just have to ACCEPT Jesus as our Lord and Saviour.
But he must know us, and we must be reborn into him but our acceptance of him is not relevant.
I agree with you Nick.Repent
Be Baptised
Follow ChristIf you would like to discuss Baptism, Salvation etc below are 2 threads based on this. I havent found an actual Baptism Thread because I didnt look. But anyway click on the links below
Nick Hassen
Quote NO repentance required just ACCEPTANCE of Jesus? Repentance means to have a sorrow for and to turn away from sin.
See the dictionary.
Repent
1.Turn away from sin
2.Feel remorse for; feel sorry for; be contrite about1Jo 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
Quote (Faith First @ Mar. 03 2007,11:29) Nick Hassen Quote NO repentance required just ACCEPTANCE of Jesus? Repentance means to have a sorrow for and to turn away from sin.
See the dictionary.
Repent
1.Turn away from sin
2.Feel remorse for; feel sorry for; be contrite about1Jo 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
Transliteration:
metanoeo {met-an-o-eh'-o}
Word Origin:
from 3326 and 3539
TDNT:
4:975,636
Part of Speech:
verb
Usage in the KJV:
repent 34Total: 34
Definition:to change one's mind, i.e. to repent
to change one's mind for better, heartily to amend with abhorrence of one's past sins
The meaning of the original word repent in Acts 2:38.
SUNday worship was adopted from pagan Sun worship.
After Christ’s return to heaven, the great majority of people were still pagans worshiping the sun on Sunday, while the followers of Jesus worshiped God on the 7th day Sabbath.
The church at that time was powerful, because of its zeal and earnestness and consecrated lives. The worship of the true God and the following of His commandments spread over the whole world.
About three centuries after Christ, Constantine, a Roman Emperor, ambitious for power, adopted Christianity as a matter of political advantage. He saw paganism declining. In reality, many were being converted by the church. Merely as a measure of popularity, he proclaimed himself a Christian.
Constantine conceived the idea of uniting both the pagans and the Christians. Though professing Christianity, he did not want to conflict with the practices of his pagan subjects. Skilfully balancing himself between the two, on the seventh day of March, 321 AD, Constantine gave forth his Sunday law, making Sunday a day of sacred rest.
The Sunday law was worded as follows:
“Let all the judges and town people and the occupation of all trades rest on the venerable day of the sun (Dies Solis); but let those who are situated in the country, freely and at full liberty, attend to the business of agriculture; because it often happens that no other day is so fit for sowing corn and planting vines; lest the critical moment being let slip, men should lose the commodities granted by Heaven.”
The church was forced to accept Sunday worship and we find the beginning of Sunday keeping in the Christian Church.
The church later accepted the leadership of Emperor Constantine, and in the year 364 AD, at the council of Laodicea, they passed a law requiring that Christians must “not Judaize by resting on Saturday.”Eusebius, a noted Catholic bishop of the church, states,
“All things whatsoever that it was duty to do on the Sabbath, these we have transferred to the Lord’s day.” (Meaning Sunday)Here, then, it is plain that a human hand, and not God, changed the Sabbath.
The Catholic Church admits that they made the change.
“Of course the Catholic Church claims that the change” (Sabbath to SUNday) “was her act. And the act is a MARK of her ecclesiastical power and authority in religious matters.” HF Thomas, Chancellor of Cardinal Gibbons (Catholic Church).
“Sunday is our MARK or authority…the church is above the Bible, and this transference of Sabbath observance is proof of that fact.” Catholic Record of London, Ontario, September 1 1923.
“From this same Catholic Church you have accepted your Sunday, and that Sunday, as the Lord's day, she has handed down as a tradition; and the entire Protestant world has accepted it as tradition, for you have not an iota of Scripture to establish it. Therefore that which you have accepted as your rule of faith, inadequate as it of course is, as well as your Sunday, you have accepted on the authority of the Roman Catholic Church.”-D. B. RAY, “The Papal Controversy,” 1892, page 179.
There you are! SUNday worship is the Mark of the Beast.
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