Collapse of civilisation is coming

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  • #373886
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    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world….1220886

    Modern civilisation is heading for collapse within a matter of decades because of growing economic instability and pressure on the planet's resources, according to a scientific study funded by Nasa.

    Using theoretical models to predict what will happen to the industrialised world over the course of the next century or so, mathematicians found that even with conservative estimates things started to go very badly, very quickly.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world….1220886

    #373889
    Wakeup
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    Quote (t8 @ Mar. 17 2014,21:20)
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world….1220886

    Modern civilisation is heading for collapse within a matter of decades because of growing economic instability and pressure on the planet's resources, according to a scientific study funded by Nasa.

    Using theoretical models to predict what will happen to the industrialised world over the course of the next century or so, mathematicians found that even with conservative estimates things started to go very badly, very quickly.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world….1220886


    God called this world,spiritually
    Sodom and Egypt. rev.11.
    So what can one expect.

    wakeup.

    #374719
    keras
    Participant

    The Reset of Civilization
    The Word of God [the Bible] tells us that He is the Creator of all things. He has the ability to do anything that he chooses. He made the earth and set humans upon it.
    It’s been nearly 2000 years since the last time we were given Divine instructions, that is: as written in the Bible. Since then, people have mostly pursued their own interests, worshipping false gods, promoting evolution and denying the existence of their Creator.
    We are told that thousands of years ago people were in a similar situation, having degenerated into apostasy and sin. Only one righteous man and his family were kept alive as God destroyed all the rest by a worldwide flood. Jesus predicted that ‘once again it will be as in the days of Noah’ and when He comes again, we should be prepared. [Matthew 24:37-44] The Creator God ‘reset civilization’ in Noah’s day and now we are facing the same judgement. God promised after the Flood, to never again use water or wipe out life so completely. [Genesis 9:11] But in Deut. 32:22 & 34-35, He tells us of a terrible fire punishment stored up for His enemies, on their Day of Doom. Isa. 54:9-10
    There are many descriptions in the prophesies of this sudden and devastating worldwide Day of fire and earthquakes, most are either ignored or allegorized because people cannot see any literal fulfilment. The biggest difficulty that most have, is realizing the difference between the Lord’s Day of vengeance and wrath and the Return of Jesus in His glory.
    Isaiah 13:9-13 The Day of the Lord is coming, that cruel Day of wrath and fierce anger, to reduce the earth to desolation and to destroy the wicked there. The sun, moon and stars will give no light. Humans will become scarce, as rare as fine gold and the earth will quake at the wrath of God on the Day of His blazing anger.
    This and many other prophesies cannot be reconciled with the glorious Return of Jesus, when ‘every eye will see Him’. It is clearly stated that on the Day of wrath, He will not be seen. [Psalm 18:11] We are told in Revelation 6:17, that the sixth seal judgement is the Day of the Lord’s wrath and then the seventh seal is a 16/17 year time gap* when the world recovers, enabling righteous Israel to return to the holy Land and the rise of a One World government. Then, after most of the rest of the prophesies are fulfilled, Jesus will Return and commence His Millennial reign.
    The main reason that most people fail to get what the Bible tells us, is that the Lord has placed on us a spirit of misunderstanding and ‘If you confuse yourself, then you will stay confused’ Isaiah 29:9-12. Only in the last days, before this shocking event, will a few finally understand what the Lord has planned. [Daniel 12:10]

    *1000 years = 1 day in heaven.

    #374725
    journey42
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    keras,Mar. wrote:

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    t is clearly stated that on the Day of wrath, He will not be seen. Psalm 18:11


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    Psalms 18:11   He made darkness his secret place; his pavilion round about him were dark waters and thick clouds of the skies.

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    #374726
    journey42
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    We are told in Revelation 6:17, that the sixth seal judgement is the Day of the Lord’s wrath and then the seventh seal is a 16/17 year time gap* when the world recovers

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    Hi Keras,

    Where are we told that?

    #374729
    Wakeup
    Participant

    THE OLD WORLD:

    There was no bible in the old world,before the flood.
    Enoch the seventh from Adam knew God from Adam; through his fathers. Men were ignorant regarding God.The ten commandments, was not brought forth.

    The *ANGELS* sinned;and corrupted the earth.(2 pet 2:4).
    The angels knew God; they knew the rules in heaven,and
    have broken the rules.
    ********

    THE 7 TRUMPETS:(THE WRATH OF GOD ON EARTH).

    1.Trumpet one: one third of the green burned up.

    2.Trumpet two: Like a mountain burning with fire,
    fell into the sea.Many died and one third of the ships
    destroyed.

    3.Trumpet three: A third part of the rivers turned into
    wormwood.

    4.Trumpet four:One third of the sun and the moon,smitten.
    men are angry because of the sores.
    (rev16:2).

    5.Trumpet five: (The first WOE):The bot.pit opened and
    locuts came out to sting men for five months.The
    unbearable pain (rev 16:10).

    6.Trumpet six: (second WOE): Four bound angels let loose
    to start the war of wars.(3rd ww).rev 9:14). But will be
    short.

    7. Trumpet seven: (third WOE): The coming of the Lord in
    the clouds; those armies will gather themselves together
    to make war with the Lamb instead.
    babylon will be destroyed in *ONE DAY*. rev. 18.

    8. BABYLON IS NO MORE,THE CITIES OF THE NATIONS ARE
    NO MORE ( JERUSALEM AS OF TODAY *INCLUDED*).( THE
    CITY; SPIRITUALLY CALLED SODOM AND EGYPT IS
    INCLUDED.
    REV 11.).JERUSALEM AS OF TODAY WILL BE TRODDEN
    DOWN BY THE GENTILES FOR 3/HALF YEARS.REV.11.

    9.THE KINGDOM SET UP. ALL THE THE JEWS FROM
    PAST ANS PRESENT BROUGHT BACK TO LIVE.
    ALL THE DRY BONES WILL PUT ON FLESH (EZ 37).
    THESE ARE THE REMNANTS, CHOSEN BY GOD.

    9.THEY WILL BE THE POPULATION IN PARADISE.
    ISAIAH 11 AND 65. THEY WILL BE TAUGHT BY THE
    RESURRECTED SAINTS FOR A THOUSAND YEARS.
    AND THE JEWS WILL ALSO TEACH THE GENTILES
    OUTSIDE.(THE WORLD). THEN SATAN LOOSED;
    AND HE WILL GATHER THE NON BELIEVING PEOPLE,
    TO SURROUND THE CAMP OF THE SAINTS.(JERUSALEM).
    REV 20.
    NOW ALL OF GODS ENEMIES ARE NO MORE.
    NEXT COMES THE SECOND RESURRECTION OF **ALL**
    THE DEAD.(SECOND AND LAST).

    wakeup.

    #374731
    david
    Participant

    I saw this too.

    Did nasa say modern civilization is going to die or that certain countries or nations are due to collapse as inevitably happens.

    #375781
    keras
    Participant

    Quote (journey42 @ Mar. 25 2014,01:34)

    keras,Mar. wrote:

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    t is clearly stated that on the Day of wrath, He will not be seen. Psalm 18:11


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    Psalms 18:11   He made darkness his secret place; his pavilion round about him were dark waters and thick clouds of the skies.

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    Hi journey42,
    The Day of the Lords vengeance and wrath is the Sixth Seal – Rev 6:17. That prophecy and many others, tells us about a terrible worldwide disaster, instigated by the Lord, but before the Return, so He is not seen by the world at this time. Habakkuk 3:4 also says: His might is veiled…
    This judgement/punishment by fire will be an event of a similar magnitude as Noah's flood, when He wasn't seen then either. Right now the world is 'as in the days of Noah', so expect this to happen soon. It is the fulfilment of Isaiah 63:1-6, when He 'tramples the nations' and splashed His garments with blood. At the Return, He comes dressed in blood stained garments.

    Your next question re the Seventh Seal time gap, should be obvious to anyone reading the scriptures – 1000 years to God is as 1 day. Therefore about a half hour IN HEAVEN, works out to a time period of from 15.6 to 26 years of earthly time. This is logical – it fits with Rev 7, for the selection of the 144,000 and all that must happen before the Return.
    My article on this and all the end times is at logostelos.info

    #375804
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Keras.

    What do you call the five trumpets?

    wakeup.

    #375829
    keras
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ April 02 2014,00:02)
    Keras.

    What do you call the five trumpets?

    wakeup.


    The 7 Trumpet and the 7 Vial punishments are the Great Tribulation. They commence 3.5 years before the Return, when the AC comes and takes over Jerusalem.
    The Seal events have already started – up to the 5th seal were opened when Jesus ascended to heaven in 33 CE.
    The Sixth Seal will be triggered by the Islamic confederation starting an attack against Israel, something that could happen any time soon. God will destroy those enemies and cleanse His peoples Land. Deut 32:40-43

    #375899
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Keras.

    Read the 6th trumpet,that is the gathering of the armies.

    wakeup.

    #375964
    keras
    Participant

    The Sixth Trumpet is an allegory of a huge army, that is actually a plague. It kills one third of mankind.
    The gathering of the real army which will go up to attack Jerusalem, is the Sixth Vial, Rev 16:12
    All that, of course, is during the Great Tribulation – the last 3.5 years before the Return. Why worry about that now? What should be the concern of everyone is the Sixth Seal; the terrible Day of the Lord's wrath. His punishment of the nations by fire. Isaiah 66:13-16

    #376006
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Keras.

    Rev.9:13–21 is the war of men against men.
    the 6th trump.(ww3).

    Rev.16:13–21 is the war against the Lamb.(men >< God).

    We need to warn our brothers/sisters.
    All revelations are for us to know,and knowledge
    of things to come.

    wakeup.

    #376096
    keras
    Participant

    You miss the fact that none of these end time, so called wars, are actually battles as we know them. In every case it is the Lord who wins, before a shot can be fired.
    Ezekiel 7 describes this forthcoming worldwide devastation of the Lord's Day of wrath -the Sixth Seal. Also Isaiah 24
    Ezekiel 7:14 The trumpet has sounded and all are ready, but no one goes to war, for My wrath is upon all their multitude.

    We who study prophecy should be aware of this forthcoming Day of fire from the sky and warn others. But the fact is; if you try to do that, derision and ridicule is your lot and the reality is, people simply don't want to know. What can they do anyway?
    Isaiah 29:24 says it is only after this event that people will gain understanding…
    Bring it on Lord !!!!

    #376109
    david
    Participant

    Quote (keras @ April 02 2014,18:50)
    The Sixth Trumpet is an allegory of a huge army, that is actually a plague. It kills one third of mankind.
    The gathering of the real army which will go up to attack Jerusalem, is the Sixth Vial, Rev 16:12
    All that, of course, is during the Great Tribulation – the last 3.5 years before the Return. Why worry about that now? What should be the concern of everyone is the Sixth Seal; the terrible Day of the Lord's wrath. His punishment of the nations by fire. Isaiah 66:13-16


    The Justinian plague likely killed 1/3 of the world, and the bubonic plague killed 1/3 of Europe and between 1/5 and 1/4 of the world.

    It would be crazy to live through something like that.

    #376173
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (keras @ April 03 2014,19:28)
    You miss the fact that none of these end time, so called wars, are actually battles as we know them. In every case it is the Lord who wins, before a shot can be fired.
    Ezekiel 7 describes this forthcoming worldwide devastation of the Lord's Day of wrath -the Sixth Seal. Also Isaiah 24
    Ezekiel 7:14 The trumpet has sounded and all are ready, but no one goes to war, for My wrath is upon all their multitude.  

    We who study prophecy should be aware of this forthcoming Day of fire from the sky and warn others. But the fact is; if you try to do that, derision and ridicule is your lot and the reality is, people simply don't want to know. What can they do anyway?
    Isaiah 29:24 says it is only after this event that people will gain understanding…
    Bring it on Lord !!!!


    Keras.

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    The Sixth Trumpet is an allegory of a huge army, that is actually a plague. It kills one third of mankind.
    The gathering of the real army which will go up to attack Jerusalem, is the Sixth Vial, Rev 16:12
    All that, of course, is during the Great Tribulation – the last 3.5 years before the Return. Why worry about that now? What should be the concern of everyone is the Sixth Seal; the terrible Day of the Lord's wrath. His punishment of the nations by fire. Isaiah 66:13-16

    Revelation 9:14 Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates.

    Revelation 9:15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.

    Revelation 9:16 And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them.

    AN ARMY OF 200,000,000.

    Revelation 9:17 And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions; and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone.

    HORSES WERE USED IN WAR BACK THEN.
    TODAY; PLANES, TANKS, SHIPS AND MISSILES ARE USED.

    Revelation 9:18 By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.

    BY FIRE,SMOKE,AND BRIMSTONES.
    THESE COME OUT OF THEIR MOUTHS.
    THESE ARE THE WEAPONS OF WAR.

    Revelation 9:19 For their power is in their mouth, and in their tails: for their tails were like unto serpents, and had heads, and with them they do hurt.

    TAILS =THE BARREL OF GUNS AND CANNONS AND ROCKET
    LAUNCHERS.

    Revelation 9:20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:

    THOSE WARS ARE THE PLAGUES.

    Revelation 9:21 Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.

    wakeup.

    #376264
    keras
    Participant

    As I say; the next event is the Sixth seal- the Psalm 83 attack by the Islamic confederation. Prophecy tells us that at that time, the Lord will destroy all weapons of war. As for the Sixth Trumpet, what exactly is described there, for now we cannot know and don't need to know. Right now; be ready for this –

    The Earth will Burn 2 Peter 3:10, Revelation 6:12-17
    In ancient times, God promised to Noah that He would never again destroy the earth with a flood. Genesis 9:11 But we see in Deuteronomy 32:34-35 & 22, God has kept in His storehouse a judgement of fire prepared and ready for His Day of vengeance. As we are once again ‘as in the days of Noah’, this terrible and devastating Day of fires, storms and earthquakes will soon strike the world, it will be the next prophesied event that will lead up to the Return of Jesus for His Millennial reign.
    Psalm 46:1-11 The Lord is our refuge and stronghold, He will help us in trouble, so we are not afraid when the earth is shaking and the mountains move; when the waves of the sea roar and the earth is quaking before the Lords majesty. Nations are in an uproar and kingdoms fall when the Lord thunders; the earth burns.
    Come and see what the Lord has done, the desolation He has brought on the earth. He makes wars to cease throughout the world, He breaks the bow, snaps the spear and burns the chariots in the fire.
    There is a river whose flow brings joy to the city of God, the holy Place of the Most High. The Lord is within her, she will not be overthrown and at the break of Day, He will come to her aid.
    Be still and know that I am God, I will be exalted among the nations and revered throughout the world. The Lord Almighty is with us, the God of Jacob is our Rock.

    This describes how the Lord will judge and punish the nations and ‘the desolation He will bring to the earth’. He will destroy all weapons of war and military forces will be neutralized or wiped out, but the Lord promises ‘to be a refuge’ to His people, when at the ‘break of day, the sea roars, the earth quakes and burns’. It is His great Day of vengeance and wrath, a massive CME sunstrike that will bring about all the effects described. We are warned to be prepared for that terrible Day, but our only true protection will be our faith and trust in the Lord. Isaiah 30:25-33 & 15
    Isaiah 9:18-19 The ungodly will be set ablaze, as a fire that consumes briars and thorns. It sets the forests on fire and all is wrapped in a pall of smoke. The land is scorched by the fury of the Lord and the people will be fuel for the fire. Ezekiel 21:1-7, Ezekiel 30:1-5, Romans 1:18
    Psalm 50:3-5 The Lord is coming and will not remain silent. A consuming fire runs ahead of Him and all around a great storm rages. He calls to the heavens above and the earth below, that He may judge His people. Ezekiel 20:34-36.
    Gather to Me, My loyal servants, those who have made a Covenant with Me by sacrifice. Revelation 7:14 Ref: REB, NIV. Some verses abridged.

    This is not the Return of Jesus in His glory, that cannot happen until the Anti-Christ is revealed. 2 Thess. 2:3 It will be the Lord’s judgement and punishment of the nations, Hab. 3:12 and all the world will be affected. It will be triggered by an attack on the State of Israel by an Islamic confederation. Psalm 83
    The Lord’s people will be judged, Jeremiah 46:27-28 and those who are His ‘loyal servants’, will be protected. Zechariah 9:15-16, Joel 3:16, Psalm 37:9, Zephaniah 2:3, 2 Thess.1:6-10

    #376266
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Keras.

    Peter said;the earth itself will melt.
    If this is so; then what is the piont of the coming?
    For all things will be no more.

    The melting of the earth will only happen after the second judgement. When all the sheep on the right will also be changed into spirit.

    All will be in heaven untill the earth is renewed.
    Then God also will come down to earth.

    wakeup.

    #376415
    keras
    Participant

    Wakeup, you fail to see how the Lord will destroy His enemies at the next prophesied event, that is: the Psalm 83, Sixth Seal judgement/punishment by fire from the sky – a CME sunstrike. This terrible worldwide disaster will kill those attackers of Israel, but the rest of the world will mostly survive. They will establish a OWG, but the Lord's righteous people will go and repopulate all the holy Land. This is what Bible prophecy says, I have written many articles proving this scenario. Free at logostelos.info
    Read carefully Isaiah 24:1-23 Beware the Lord is about to strip the earth, ruin it and make it waste, and scatter its inhabitants…..
    The KJV says….turn it upside down…. but that is not what will happen, although the earth will 'be shaken out of its place'. Isa.13:13
    Also read 2 Peter 3:7…Peter says; fire will destroy the godless, therefore the righteous will survive along with those who will follow the Anti-Christ until the Return of Jesus about 16 years later.

    #376418
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Keras.

    Before the coming will be the sixt trumpets.
    The first to fifth will be all the plagues.

    The sixth will be the first gathering of the 200million.
    This is the war of men against men.(WW3).

    Then the second gathering of *both sides together* is against the Lamb.This will take only one day, and babylon is destroyed.This is the seventh trumpet;the coming.
    The earth shaking and hail and fire from heaven.
    Hail of 45kg.

    wakeup.

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