Clouds without water

[journey42]

Jude 1:11 Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, an perished in the gainsaying of Korah.

Jude 1:12 These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots.

Who are these?

The answer is here
Proverbs 24:14 Whoso boasts himself of a false gift is like clouds and wind without rain.

Warning to the church in Pergamos
Rev 2:14 But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balak to cast a stumbling block before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication.

Rev 2:15 So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate.

Warning to the church of Thyatira
Rev 2:20 Notwithstanding, I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols

Rev 2:22 Behold I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.

Rev 2:23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searches the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.

So who are these mentioned in Jude, feeding themselves without fear? These are “christians” feeding on strange flesh, eating things sacrificed unto idols.
They sacrificed the truth, and worshipped the doctrines of men (their idols)
if they have no fear, then they are comfortable in thinking that they are saved.

Why do they think they are saved?
Because they claim to have spiritual gifts.
But this group of christians have false gifts.
These so called “spiritual gifts” give them false security.

Be very weary if one tells you they have the holy spirit because they speak tongues, or do miracles etc.
For they have greedily ran after the error of Balaam.
The outside appears holy, but inside they are empty, no substance, clouds without water.
God says they are twice dead
so they were never given life in the first place, as they were taught, as they believed, and as they boasted “we are saved”
They believed because of miracles, and not according to the truth.
These will be plucked up by their roots
these are the tares amongst the wheat.

Beware of false doctrines, and think twice before you boast about your gift.

Eat Christ's flesh.
Stay with the scriptures.

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journey42,
I believe it's those who study the Scriptures thinking that they can gain eternal life from works and/or knowledge. Always learning facts, doctrine, verses, but never able to come to a knowledge of the truth (a God given revelation of Jesus that brings eternal life).  Unwilling to die to self they are; Lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God.  Having a form of godliness but denying its power.

My opinion – Wm

[Ed J]

Quote (journey42 @ Jan. 28 2012,13:39)

Jude 1:11   Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, an perished in the gainsaying of Korah. Jude 1:12   These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots. Who are these? The answer is here Proverbs 24:14   Whoso boasts himself of a false gift is like clouds and wind without rain. Warning to the church in Pergamos Rev 2:14   But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balak to cast a stumbling block before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication. Rev 2:15   So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate. Warning to the church of Thyatira Rev 2:20   Notwithstanding, I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols Rev 2:22   Behold I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. Rev 2:23   And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searches the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works. So who are these mentioned in Jude, feeding themselves without fear?  These are “christians” feeding on strange flesh, eating things sacrificed unto idols. They sacrificed the truth, and worshipped the doctrines of men (their idols) if they have no fear, then they are comfortable in thinking that they are saved. Why do they think they are saved? Because they claim to have spiritual gifts. But this group of christians have false gifts. These so called “spiritual gifts” give them false security. Be very weary if one tells you they have the holy spirit because they speak tongues, or do miracles etc.   For they have greedily ran after the error of Balaam. The outside appears holy, but inside they are empty, no substance, clouds without water. God says they are twice dead so they were never given life in the first place, as they were taught, as they believed, and as they boasted “we are saved” They believed because of miracles, and not according to the truth. These will be plucked up by their roots these are the tares amongst the wheat. Beware of false doctrines, and think twice before you boast about your gift. Eat Christ's flesh. Stay with the scriptures.

Hi Georgie,

You were doing good, until you claimed them to be Christians.
They are really the fallen angels mentioned in Revelation 12:9.
Born human, but not “born again” as Spirit. Jesus said we MUST
be born of Water and Spirit to enter into the Kingdom of God.

Jude 1:6…12 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation,
he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
…clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth,
without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[journey42]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 28 2012,16:47)

Quote (journey42 @ Jan. 28 2012,13:39) Jude 1:11   Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, an perished in the gainsaying of Korah. Jude 1:12   These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots. Who are these? The answer is here Proverbs 24:14   Whoso boasts himself of a false gift is like clouds and wind without rain. Warning to the church in Pergamos Rev 2:14   But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balak to cast a stumbling block before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication. Rev 2:15   So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate. Warning to the church of Thyatira Rev 2:20   Notwithstanding, I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols Rev 2:22   Behold I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. Rev 2:23   And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searches the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works. So who are these mentioned in Jude, feeding themselves without fear?  These are “christians” feeding on strange flesh, eating things sacrificed unto idols. They sacrificed the truth, and worshipped the doctrines of men (their idols) if they have no fear, then they are comfortable in thinking that they are saved. Why do they think they are saved? Because they claim to have spiritual gifts. But this group of christians have false gifts. These so called “spiritual gifts” give them false security. Be very weary if one tells you they have the holy spirit because they speak tongues, or do miracles etc.   For they have greedily ran after the error of Balaam. The outside appears holy, but inside they are empty, no substance, clouds without water. God says they are twice dead so they were never given life in the first place, as they were taught, as they believed, and as they boasted “we are saved” They believed because of miracles, and not according to the truth. These will be plucked up by their roots these are the tares amongst the wheat. Beware of false doctrines, and think twice before you boast about your gift. Eat Christ's flesh. Stay with the scriptures. Hi Georgie, You were doing good, until you claimed them to be Christians. They are really the fallen angels mentioned in Revelation 12:9. Born human, but not “born again” as Spirit. Jesus said we MUST be born of Water and Spirit to enter into the Kingdom of God. Jude 1:6…12 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. …clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots; God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Hi Ed

I am aware of Jude 1:6, being those angels. These ones are locked up in the bottomless pit, and will be released during the trumpets.

then it goes on in the next verse explaining EVEN in Sodom and Gomorrah they did the same thing, going after strange flesh.
Who? Who did the same thing?
Men. Homosexuals, men with men, women with women, and also men with beast.
All unnatural sexual fornication
abominations.
Just like the angels did in the beginning.
Strange flesh means different flesh to your own.
So to narrow it down, this strange flesh can only mean that they were having sex with animals or angels again?

Christ said to eat his flesh
Could this strange flesh they were going after, be a double meaning. Could it also be the doctrine of seducing spirits, that caused such abominations.
Those angels from the beginning were locked up. It was not those particular ones in Sodom and Gomorrah. But we know by the scriptures that men did these atrocious acts in Sodom and Gomorrah. Wicked angels were there to guide them, obviously, for men to commit abominations amongst themselves.

Now in Jude v8 it says LIKEWISE also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.

Why in v9 does it cut in with the devil fighting over Moses dead body? Why? Because Moses gave the commandments and made it clear that these certain acts are not allowed. And another reason that I will not get into right now.

So in verse 10, it is obviously talking about much later. The last days.
But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, AS brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.

Jude 1:11 Woe unto them, for they have gone in the way of cain,
Angels going after the way of Cain? Cain was a murderer. The wicked angels were there before Cain. Guiding.

….and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward…
Again, are angels running after the way's of Balaam?
They were there before Balaam. They created him.

So these clouds without water, are men. Yes I agree that evil angels are there with them. In the background, guiding, leading. Wandering stars.

And proverbs tells us exactly who these men are, who are being guided by evil angels

Whoso boasts himself of a false gift is like clouds and wind without rain

These men have those evil angels with them.

You are aware that there are tares amongst the wheat?
Who are the masses of christians following?
according to God, it is not him.

[Ed J]

Hi Georgie,

Excellent clarification, I agree!

Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
holycitybiblecode.org

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