Claiming to have the spirit;

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  • #383816
    Wakeup
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    This is about any person claiming to have the spirit of Christ
    in him.

    The new person walks in the spirit of Christ.
    The spirit of Christ IN him. He lives his life according to the spirit that is in him.

    We as true followers of Christ, should never ever, dare to spin or manipulate God's words for any personal gain.
    This is not a good sign. A sign that the spirt of Christ is not truly in him. The warning lights should flash.

    If the spirit of Christ is truly in him;he would not be capable to do such a thing. For Christ is not against Christ.

    For instance:
    Christ said clearly:

    John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that ***which is born of the Spirit is spirit***.

    As clear as crystal.
    Those words are the words of Him; that suppose to dwell inside that person: And yet he is capable to spin, the words,of that spirit: That is in him.
    This should show warning lights flashing.

    Hebrews 1:7 And of the angels he saith,
    ***Who maketh his angels spirits***,
    and his ministers a flame of fire.

    If that same person is CAPABLE to spin those words,by saying that angels are not spirit creatures.
    That alone: For a spiritual person with knowledge; the warning lights will flash brightly.The Spirit of Christ does not
    contradict Christ himself.

    It is clearly said that angels are made of spirit.
    The Holy Spirit said that: And is also the Spirit of Christ.
    Which is the Spirit of truth. The Holy Spirit does not contradict himself.

    The point I am making here is: That anyone claiming to have the spirit of Christ, CAN NEVER contradict scriptures willingly.
    To contradict scriptures inspired by the Holy Ghost, is a bad sign. And a spiritual person with knowlede, can notice right away.

    Anyone claiming to be a preacher or pastor;that willingly manipulate scriptures; that spirit of Christ is not in him.
    A fake spirit is in him to cause confusion in the church,
    or he is there to put the flock asleep.

    These false spirits are send every where, to do their duty.
    Some are send to confuse;some to put the flock asleep with smooth words; some to cause friction in the church.
    They are there to divide and conquer;and have done a very good job.

    The conclusion:
    Watch the spirit in man by his fruits; his works.
    The judge is the scriptures; judge based on the scriptures.
    If he contradicts the words of Christ; that spirit in him is anti christ. He may not even know it himslef. Because he is being manipulated from the inside. His own spirit is put on sleep mode. He does not know what he is doing.

    Evil can manipulate man if he is empty and naked.

    The spirit world can be very tricky to the secular man.
    But the spiritual man, can see him working in a person.
    By observing his works; and his words.

    The spirit of Christ,which is the Holy Spirit;will not speak
    in contadiction to Christ's own words.
    Just remember this. Keep watching they may be working on you.

    wakeup.

    #383819
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,
    Yes natural flesh men are born of flesh.
    The baptism of the Spirit produces men of the Spirit.
    The spirit of confusion inspires the religious men of the world

    #383880
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 24 2014,13:10)
    Hi WU,
    Yes natural flesh men are born of flesh.
    The baptism of the Spirit produces men of the Spirit.
    The spirit of confusion inspires the religious men of the world


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    Yes natural flesh men are born of flesh.

    THE BODY IS FLESH,BUT NOT THE MIND.(not the flesh brain)
    THE MIND IS SPIRIT.OUT OF THE MIND COME ALL SORTS OF THINKING AND IMAGINATIONS,AND WANTS.
    WE SEE WITH THE MIND THROUGH THE EYES

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    The baptism of the Spirit produces men of the Spirit.
    The spirit of confusion inspires the religious men of the world

    THE BAPTISM OF WATER ANY PERSON CAN PERFORM IF HE WANTS TO. THE EVIL POPE CAN DO IT ALSO.I BELIEVE SOME SATANIC CULTS DO IT ALSO.
    IT IS JUST A RITUAL ESTABLISHED BY GOD FOR CHRISTIANS.

    THE BAPTISM OF THE HOLY SPIRIT IS PEFORMED ONLY BY JESUS.AND HE DOES NOT BAPTISE ANYBODY THAT COMES AND ASK FOR IT. HE LOOKS AT THE PERSONS HEART.

    THE DEVILS WORK ALWAYS ENDS UP WITH CONFUSION.
    WE NEED THAT SPIRITUAL KNOWLEDGE NOT TO GET MIXED UP INTO CONFUSION.

    wakeup.

    #383896
    NickHassan
    Participant

    HI WU,
    Faith is not knowledge.
    Faith involves obedience to the command.
    Just a ritual?
    It is necessary from scripture's point of view
    Many who refuse are deluded into thinking they already have the Spirit.

    #384007
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 25 2014,00:25)
    HI WU,
    Faith is not knowledge.
    Faith involves obedience to the command.
    Just a ritual?
    It is necessary from scripture's point of view
    Many who refuse are deluded into thinking they already have the Spirit.


    n

    RO 2:7 to those who by perseverance in doing good seek for glory and honor and immortality, eternal life;

    #384039
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 24 2014,13:10)
    Hi WU,

    Yes natural flesh men are born of flesh.
    The baptism of the Spirit produces men of the Spirit.


    Hi Nick,

    Yes, that is what “Born Again” means.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #384047
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ May 25 2014,09:19)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 24 2014,13:10)
    Hi WU,

    Yes natural flesh men are born of flesh.
    The baptism of the Spirit produces men of the Spirit.


    Hi Nick,

    Yes, that is what “Born Again” means.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    N, Ed

    You are both wrong, first if what you said is true, then the flesh would never be able to change anything, even the soul inside of that flesh,

    But scriptures says that it is not the flesh that is to be changed but the way s of the soul inside of that body of flesh, and so stopping from persuing the ways of the desires of the flesh , but pick up the deeds of the Spirit of truth and believe in the son of God , work for what can save you , the truth of God,

    #384067
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 25 2014,05:25)
    HI WU,
    Faith is not knowledge.
    Faith involves obedience to the command.
    Just a ritual?
    It is necessary from scripture's point of view
    Many who refuse are deluded into thinking they already have the Spirit.


    How can one have faith without knowing God by knowledge.

    wakeup.

    #384079
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,
    You need to read Hebrews 11 again.

    #384083
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 25 2014,16:49)
    Hi WU,
    You need to read Hebrews 11 again.


    What you are telling me is that you have known God
    Because you are told that there is a God.
    You actually have not been doing the resaerch.
    Believing without knowledge.

    How can one be a historian with no knowledge?
    It boggles my mind. Im I conversing with an adult here?
    Nick; are you of a young age?

    wakeup.

    #384084
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,
    Knowing about God is useless.

    #384088
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,
    I am over thirty years old -since my rebirth
    But you are still awaiting your birth?

    #384102
    terraricca
    Participant

    Nick ????

    #384381
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 25 2014,17:51)
    Hi WU,
    I am over thirty years old -since my rebirth
    But you are still awaiting your birth?


    But your reasoning capability is of a ten year old.

    wakeup.

    #384383
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi
    Certainly many claim to have the Spirit by visions or special knowledge
    But by their fruit you know them

    #384403
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 26 2014,16:49)
    Hi
    Certainly many claim to have the Spirit by visions or special knowledge
    But by their fruit you know them


    Your fruits dont look too good;
    judging by the scriptures.

    wakeup.

    #384407
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,
    Yes those who claim to have the Spirit often are following spirits of divination etc.

    #384417
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 26 2014,20:56)
    Hi WU,
    Yes those who claim to have the Spirit often are following spirits of divination etc.


    Nick.

    Your spirit is called brandy.

    wakeup.

    #384494
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi,
    The Spirit manifests in peace and joy.
    The Spirit is positive

    #384496
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 26 2014,23:58)
    Hi,
    The Spirit manifests in peace and joy.
    The Spirit is positive


    nick

    positive like what ???

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