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Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 19 2014,01:18) 2Besee. You are contradicting the written Word of God.
How do you feel about that?
Jesus said: No one can come to the Father but by ME.
It is not good to seek after strange flesh.
What are you doing?wakeup.
Wakeup,
'Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me a sinner.'
What is wrong with praying that?
Quote (t8 @ Jan. 18 2014,00:08) Colter and others. Please refrain from quoting all the time. I personally cannot follow a conversation, when I have to sift through 70% noise or repetition. Most of the time, a normal post is better. It stands out and is easier to read. If you are replying to a post from further back, then yes you can quote. It is even better if you quote the exact bit you are replying to.
I may have to disable this function if it is not used in the way it was intended.
Yes thanks t8, I agree.
Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 19 2014,01:09) Colter. God is NOT evil,but can also do evil.He can do everything.
He has no limits.
God created good and evil for us to know good ,and evil.
Evil had to be created; and He is the only creator of all that is created.wakeup.
W,
God does not create evil. Man creates evil.
' Let no one say when he is tempted, “I am being tempted by God,” for God cannot be tempted with evil, and he himself tempts no one. But each person is tempted when he is lured and enticed by his own desire. Then desire when it has conceived gives birth to sin, and sin when it is fully grown brings forth death. Do not be deceived, my beloved brothers.'
' Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights with whom there is no variation or shadow due to change.'The atheists would love you!
2Besee.
Nice meeting you here.Does God kill and make alive?
Did God allowe the serpent to tempt Eve?
Can the serpent do it without permission?
Did God create light and darkness?
Did God create the deaf and the dumb?
Is there EVIL in a city and God did not do it?
Who created the night?
Who created the great flood,is it not God?
Is there a flood, and God did not do it?
Who makes the sulphur come down from heaven?
Is there a lake of fire and God did not create it?
Is there a bottomless pit and God did not create it?
Is it not God that is going to melt the earth?
Who created the waster to destroy; Is there another creator?
Who created leviathan,is there another creator,beside God?Accorging to the antichrists scribes: all those are mistranslated.
And God let it happen to His preserved Word?
God is the chief executive,and therefore responsible
for all things happening on this earth.wakeup.
W,
Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 20 2014,03:28) Does God kill and make alive?
Did God allowe the serpent to tempt Eve?
Can the serpent do it without permission?
Did God create light and darkness?
Did God create the deaf and the dumb?Is there EVIL in a city and God did not do it?
Who created the night?
Who created the great flood,is it not God?
Is there a flood, and God did not do it?
Who makes the sulphur come down from heaven?
Is there a lake of fire and God did not create it?
Is there a bottomless pit and God did not create it?
Is it not God that is going to melt the earth?
Who created the waster to destroy; Is there another creator?
Who created leviathan,is there another creator,beside God?None of that is “evil”.
Quote Accorging to the antichrists scribes: all those are mistranslated. They were mistranslated, as you have been shown.
Quote And God let it happen to His preserved Word? God gave us a mind to think and a heart to search.
Quote God is the chief executive,and therefore responsible for all things happening on this earth. God gave humans free will. We can choose between right and wrong. God gave us the commandments (ten) and Jesus confirmed those ten commandments as still standing. You can choose whether to obey them, or not. Those who do obey the commandments go to Heaven (eternal life) whilst those who do not obey the commandments, and do not have the faith in Jesus go to the second death (eternal death). God has given us the choice to either do good, or do bad.
That does not mean that God is responsible for the choices that we make.
2Besee.
I know all that.
But God has to put good and evil there for us to make that choice.
Without evil then there is no choice.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 15 2014,08:45) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 15 2014,05:53) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 15 2014,05:36) Boditharta. Jesus *IS* the Word of God made flesh.
The word of God had glory with God before the world was.
They had glory together creating.
The Word was transformed into flesh by birth.
*I proceeded forth from the Father*.
*I came out from the Father*.
Mohamad was created by Him,and all things were made by Him, and for Him.
Without Him was not anything made that was made.Jesus is not Just a prophet;He is the creator.
God is almighty,and his Word is also almighty.
God's Word is a LIVING WORD.
Should we worship the creature; rather than the creator?
Allah is not the creator God,despite all the claims that he is.
There is no scriptural evidence to proof, that allah is the creator. The qur'an is not a continuation of the new testament.The new testament ended with the book of revelation,and nothing to be added nor taken away.wakeup.
Yes, Jesus is the Word of God made flesh. Do you believe that God had no word when Jesus was created?The Quran agrees with you but is simply clarifying:
” Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) a messenger of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him”
Did not God speak out from heaven while Christ was on earth? Did he have another “Word” or is the “Word” His creative power and Jesus was created with it?
The book of revelations says that nothing should be taken out or added to THAT BOOK (the book of revelations) there was no such thing as the NT at the time of that writing that's why they are called “books” of the Bible (Which is a collection of Books and letters) it is a bibliography.
Boditharta..In the beginning was the Word,and the word was *WITH* God,and the Word *WAS* God.
EXPLANATION OF:
1.) *WITH* GOD.
2.) *WAS* GOD.1A). *WITH* God.
1B.) God brought forth His word;from *inside* of him to the *outside* of Him.God gave Him a form like His own image.(He is a living Word).
(IN THE BEGINNING WAS THE WORD AND THE WORD WAS **WITH** GOD).WHEN THE BEGINNING OF CREATION
STARTED.2A.) *WAS* God. BEFORE THE BEGINNING OF
CREATION.
2B).Before creating had started; there was only God.
And his Mind. There was *no Word* as yet,because
God had not spoken. Every word comes from the Mind.
(AND THE WORD *WAS* GOD).GOD'S WORD NEVER RUNS OUT,HE COMES FROM INSIDE GOD'S MIND.
On earth: What ever God was thinking;His Word spoke out.
Jesus spoke out God's mind.What ever the father tells me;that I say.
What ever I see the father do;that I do.
I myself, can not do anything.wakeup.
So when Jesus was on earth did God still have His Word in Heaven?Boditharta.
When Jesus was on earth,God is still speaking through Him.
What ever I hear God speak;that I say.
God always speaks through His word.
In heaven or on earth.
He is the Word of God.
God also speaks through his Word to Moses.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 21 2014,03:09) 2Besee. I know all that.
But God has to put good and evil there for us to make that choice.
Without evil then there is no choice.wakeup.
W,
This topic has gone off course.
I only posted in here because I wanted to say thank you to bod for the heads up.
Did you grasp what he said in the OP's?Quote (2besee @ Jan. 22 2014,21:12) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 21 2014,03:09) 2Besee. I know all that.
But God has to put good and evil there for us to make that choice.
Without evil then there is no choice.wakeup.
W,
This topic has gone off course.
I only posted in here because I wanted to say thank you to bod for the heads up.
Did you grasp what he said in the OP's?
2Besee.No I dont know.
Can you tell me?wakeup.
Ironic: sometimes, those wailing division, unbeknowingly are it's root, including minions. Hypocrisy: obvious to a few watchers, hidden to the wailers.
Bod's message: preoccupation is a sad distraction from a prior calling.
Quote (2besee @ Jan. 23 2014,08:12) Ironic: sometimes, those wailing division, unbeknowingly are it's root, including minions. Hypocrisy: obvious to a few watchers, hidden to the wailers. Bod's message: preoccupation is a sad distraction from a prior calling.
Thanks Besee.What are you doing way down under?
wakeup.
W,
Way down under?
If you mean location, I don't discuss personal things on the net.
If you mean what am I doing posting down here, I have never liked division. Discussions with believers have become boring. I would only discuss belief with very very close people, now.Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 31 2013,18:11) Why is it you guys are always studying, focused and afraid about the end time? If you believe the Bible shouldn't you embrace whatever is coming? Jesus said TODAY is enough for you to worry about but you waste your live in endless speculation if whatever happens is the WILL OF GOD then why not embrace it? If you are saved as you all claim to be what is the fuss? Knowing suffering is to come, is not something to “embrace”, neither is the lack of Spirit.
Focusing on the salvation of others is neccesary, rather than what is happening, which is, as you rightly said, a distraction.
We need to be aware of the warnings of the Spirit as the guide, without losing focus of what we need to do.
The spirit has warned me of brainwashing, and the effects. Meteorites, transport accidents, war soon to come (preparation).
Quote (2besee @ Jan. 23 2014,19:22) W, Way down under?
If you mean location, I don't discuss personal things on the net.
If you mean what am I doing posting down here, I have never liked division. Discussions with believers have become boring. I would only discuss belief with very very close people, now.
2Besee.You should exchange scriptures with us,
this is important.
As you teach you also will teach yourself.
Let them disagree,as long as you come up with
scriptures to put them straight.
The enemies strategy is always the same,
devide and conquer.
We can bring them together using the scriptures.Have a nice day.
wakeup.
Quote (2besee @ Jan. 24 2014,18:21) OK, thanks Wakeup.
2Besee.You are welcome.
To know things coming is to know the enemie's,
strategy,so we can warn our bro's and sist.
We must be the watchman on the wall blowing the trumpet
when something evil is coming.
We need to wake them from their sleep.
The thief likes to see the man of the house asleep.
So we must watch,and warn our bro's and sist.The enemy is going to stop christians from worship.
All churches will be shut down.
All christians *forced* to submit to the false prophet.
We will be starved, or put in camps,or killed for the word of Jesus.We need to build up our faith by feeding on the word of God. Dont fall asleep like the five virgins,caught with no oil. We need to keep on filling our tanks with oil.
Learn of the prophesies,for it is the testimony of Jesus,
telling us of the dangers coming ahead.wakeup
Wakeup,
How can the enemy stop Christians from worship?
Don't we worship God where ever we are? We don't NEED to go somewhere to worship anymore.The only way the enemy can do that is through the mind and spirit.
Quote (2besee @ Jan. 25 2014,20:23) Wakeup,
How can the enemy stop Christians from worship?
Don't we worship God where ever we are? We don't NEED to go somewhere to worship anymore.The only way the enemy can do that is through the mind and spirit.
2Besee.Do you remember Daniel?
The king made a decree that no one is to pray to their God for; what;30days I think.
And Daniel was caught praying to his God,and was cast into the lions den?Well there will be a law stating that everyone must
make obeisance to the false prophet or be killed.
Obeisance by taking the chip,to buy food.
No chip; no food; not only that, they will put us in camps and some killed. The strong in faith,with strong foundations,
will not give up God, for food.Even for own family.wakeup.
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