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Quote (Colter @ Jan. 04 2014,23:42) Quote (t8 @ Jan. 04 2014,20:21) Why is the world fixated on criticizing Christians?
*because the inconsistent Christian religion about Jesus has long been a retarding influence on spiritual and scientific progress and people have grown weary of it.Colter
It doesn't answer the question because you are free to believe what you want (as you do) and no one is forcing you to be a Christian.Yet you, the Muslim here, the Atheists here, and even the Agnostics, like to attack Christians. It is like the Jews. It is strange that the whole world has been against them too.
I believe as Jesus said, that the world will hate us because it hated him. And all the other paths that are not Jesus will attack those who follow Jesus because they have rejected him.
Quote (t8 @ Jan. 08 2014,21:42) Colter, I have noticed you are hijacking this discussion to promote your religion word for word. Please stick to the topic at hand. You can divert somewhat if it is to introduce a point that is related to the topic. That is one of the rules here. No spam or hijacking a topic. You are free to start a topic on the subject(s) you are discussing however.
I have been answering Wakup's questions but he's kind of dense. But I will honor your request.Colter
Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 08 2014,16:44) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 08 2014,16:25) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 08 2014,07:44) Quote (2besee @ Jan. 07 2014,20:05) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 01 2014,05:42) What I am saying is why be concerned about it since it will occur regardless of what you study or think and regarding those who have a lack of knowledge isn't the message of the Gospel all you need to share? Endless speculation does nothing to focus the mind on loving and living a life of Christian devotion and in fact all you call enemies should be loved according to your own belief. You don't have to demonize others all the time to convert, teach or preach. It should suffice that Jesus was sent by God that whomever shall believe in him shall not perish but have eternal life, and this is regardless of trials, tribulations, antichrists, false prophets…etc
Romans 8:39
nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.This is what you should focus on Jesus said
Matthew 24:23-25
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. 24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. 25 Behold, I have told you before.
A person can only be deceived if they focus on signs and wonders such as when the world will end and who is who, that how a magician fools his audience he gets them to pay attention to one thing while doing another but you should give the magician audience at all keeping your eye focused on the Prize
Philippians 3:13-15
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
13 Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before, 14 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus. 15 Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you.
God Bless!
You are correct in most of what you say. Thanks for the heads up. However, if one is not aware of what is happening, then they are liable to be deceived. Most of the world will be deceived. This is very confusing times we are living in.
There will be no deception at all because Jesus already explained:Mark 13:21
And then if any man shall say to you, Lo, here is Christ; or, lo, he is there; believe him not:So how can you be deceived even if miracle after miracle is performed you could never believe in an anti-christ if you keep the word of JESUS CHRIST.
Mark 13:22 For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.
Jesus is telling you clearly to ignore the signs and wonders they will only lead to seduction.
Loving the least of these is the only sign and wonder you will ever need and it is in fact loving Christ and His GOD
Boditharta.Is this warning not telling us when He is coming?
Matthew 24:15
***When ye therefore shall see the abomination of
desolation***,
***spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy
place***, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)Matthew 24:16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
Matthew 24:17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
Matthew 24:18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
wakeup.
You would have to assume that the warning was outside the context of his own time, in other words that he was saying that then so 2000 years later we would heed that advice.Now, the point is you would have to guess what this abomination is or perhaps in that day you already knew exactly what he was referring to but speculation is not the answer.
When you see what you consider the abomination of desolation what will you do? And if you have already identified it what are you doing? Are you fleeing what are you doing that would correspon to that advice?
Now, Jesus didn't say the part (whoso readeth, let him understand:) because he wasn't writing it so the person writing it understood it to be of some consequence during their own life time.
Trust that love, Faith and Righteousness is all you need to win the battle you are fighting.
Boditharta.This is the reason; one should know the prophesies.
Daniel 12:1 ***And at that time shall Michael stand up***, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people:
***and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was
since there was a nation even to that same time***:
(JESUS WORDS IN MATT.24)(END TIME PROPHECY).
and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found *written in the book*.Daniel 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
(THIS IS THE RESURRECTION).
Daniel 12:3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.
( THE ONES WITH KNOWLEDGE SHALL SHINE AS THE
BRIGHTNESS OF THE FIRMAMENT) (AND MANY THAT HAVE
TURNED THEIR BROTHERS TO GOD WILL BE LIKE THE
STARS).Daniel 12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, ***even to the time of the end***:
many shall run to and fro, ***and knowledge shall be
increased***.Daniel 12:5 Then I Daniel looked, and, behold, there stood other two, the one on this side of the bank of the river, and the other on that side of the bank of the river.
Daniel 12:6 And one said to the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders?
Daniel 12:7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, ***times, and an half***; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.
(REV.11 THE HOLY CITY SHALL THEY TREAD UNDER FOOT
FOR 42 MONTHS). (3/HALF YRS).Daniel 12:8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?
Da
niel 12:9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.Daniel 12:10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: ***and none of the wicked shall understand***; ***but the wise shall
understand***.Daniel 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away,
***and the abomination that maketh desolate **set up***, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
(3/HALF TIMES; 42 MONTHS; 1290 DAYS).Daniel 12:12 ***Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand ***three hundred and five and thirty days***.
Daniel 12:13 But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.
AS YOU CAN SEE,THE ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION WILL BE *SET UP* IN THE LAST DAYS.IT WILL ONLY STAND IN THE HOLY PLACE FOR 3/HALF YRS,1290 DAYS.
WAIT UNTILL THE 1335 DAYS.THEN THE COMING.wakeup
Quote (t8 @ Jan. 08 2014,21:43) Quote (Colter @ Jan. 04 2014,23:42) Quote (t8 @ Jan. 04 2014,20:21) Why is the world fixated on criticizing Christians?
*because the inconsistent Christian religion about Jesus has long been a retarding influence on spiritual and scientific progress and people have grown weary of it.Colter
It doesn't answer the question because you are free to believe what you want (as you do) and no one is forcing you to be a Christian.Yet you, the Muslim here, the Atheists here, and even the Agnostics, like to attack Christians. It is like the Jews. It is strange that the whole world has been against them too.
I believe as Jesus said, that the world will hate us because it hated him. And all the other paths that are not Jesus will attack those who follow Jesus because they have rejected him.
It is true what you pointed out, Jesus did say that people would hate his liberating, Liberal, loving message and therefore his Father as well. But now egotistical,hatful Christians hide behind that and whine in self pity because they have become stagnant, failing to grow in grace and in truth. The Christian Church has a looooong history of oppression and atrocities all while hiding behind words that had a completely different meaning to begin with.Scripture worshiping religious people hated Jesus and his messangers.
Jesus spoke to the days of this other group who are deciples in name only:
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
It is you who have repeatedly attacked the new revelation of the Urantia Papers and therefore Jesus and his Father as well.
Colter
Colter.
As there are bad urantia followers so are also bad christians.
We are not discussing people but doctrine.
Your new doctrine is compiled by *antichrists jews*.
(kabalah followers for sure).
And you have swallowed it, and have enjoyed the taste.
The time will come that you will have to vomit it all out.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 08 2014,22:36) Colter. As there are bad urantia followers so are also bad christians.
We are not discussing people but doctrine.
Your new doctrine is compiled by *antichrists jews*.
(kabalah followers for sure).
And you have swallowed it, and have enjoyed the taste.
The time will come that you will have to vomit it all out.wakeup.
Wakup,Today its Kabalah followers, yesterday its was demons, before that it was a bipolar God who created evil in Satan and something about eating flesh, who knows what fruit cake doctrine you will come up with tomorrow. Your theology is inconsistent and unattractive.
I have no doctrine, I have belief and it grows. Doctrine is evil; it's a creation of controlling religious institutions. (none of you on this forum seem to agree on the same doctrine anyway).
Colter
Quote (Colter @ Jan. 08 2014,23:31) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 08 2014,22:36) Colter. As there are bad urantia followers so are also bad christians.
We are not discussing people but doctrine.
Your new doctrine is compiled by *antichrists jews*.
(kabalah followers for sure).
And you have swallowed it, and have enjoyed the taste.
The time will come that you will have to vomit it all out.wakeup.
Wakup,Today its Kabalah followers, yesterday its was demons, before that it was a bipolar God who created evil in Satan and something about eating flesh, who knows what fruit cake doctrine you will come up with tomorrow. Your theology is inconsistent and unattractive.
I have no doctrine, I have belief and it grows. Doctrine is evil; it's a creation of controlling religious institutions. (none of you on this forum seem to agree on the same doctrine anyway).
Colter
Yes, Wakeup, Devo and myself agree with the same doctrine. So you are wrong there.Quote (Colter @ Jan. 08 2014,23:31) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 08 2014,22:36) Colter. As there are bad urantia followers so are also bad christians.
We are not discussing people but doctrine.
Your new doctrine is compiled by *antichrists jews*.
(kabalah followers for sure).
And you have swallowed it, and have enjoyed the taste.
The time will come that you will have to vomit it all out.wakeup.
Wakup,Today its Kabalah followers, yesterday its was demons, before that it was a bipolar God who created evil in Satan and something about eating flesh, who knows what fruit cake doctrine you will come up with tomorrow. Your theology is inconsistent and unattractive.
I have no doctrine, I have belief and it grows. Doctrine is evil; it's a creation of controlling religious institutions. (none of you on this forum seem to agree on the same doctrine anyway).
Colter
Colter.You seem to ignore the fact that those writers of the UB,
are antichrists jews. And you are supporting them.
But also sort of praising Christ at the same time.
That only makes you a harlot.
It is time to put down those books and come to Christ's Words only.Let me reapeat it. Those jews are the same that crucified Christ. Do you hear me?
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 09 2014,01:05) Quote (Colter @ Jan. 08 2014,23:31) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 08 2014,22:36) Colter. As there are bad urantia followers so are also bad christians.
We are not discussing people but doctrine.
Your new doctrine is compiled by *antichrists jews*.
(kabalah followers for sure).
And you have swallowed it, and have enjoyed the taste.
The time will come that you will have to vomit it all out.wakeup.
Wakup,Today its Kabalah followers, yesterday its was demons, before that it was a bipolar God who created evil in Satan and something about eating flesh, who knows what fruit cake doctrine you will come up with tomorrow. Your theology is inconsistent and unattractive.
I have no doctrine, I have belief and it grows. Doctrine is evil; it's a creation of controlling religious institutions. (none of you on this forum seem to agree on the same doctrine anyway).
Colter
Colter.You seem to ignore the fact that those writers of the UB,
are antichrists jews. And you are supporting them.
But also sort of praising Christ at the same time.
That only makes you a harlot.
It is time to put down those books and come to Christ's Words only.Let me reapeat it. Those jews are the same that crucified Christ. Do you hear me?
wakeup.
Wakup,
You seem to be more of a liar than ever, the Urantia revelation teaches that the Son of God is “Christ.”So in addition to being an idiot (because you haven’t read the UB), you bare false witness, you are a liar.
The topic here is the “end times” a teaching that is the result of the false teachings about the Messiah and the failure of Jesus to do what the scripture said he would do.
Christians are stuck on the false hope of an end times, eventually these people will die off and the UB will replace the conflicted, discredited Catholic Bible book.
Colter
Quote (journey42 @ Jan. 09 2014,00:52) Quote (Colter @ Jan. 08 2014,23:31) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 08 2014,22:36) Colter. As there are bad urantia followers so are also bad christians.
We are not discussing people but doctrine.
Your new doctrine is compiled by *antichrists jews*.
(kabalah followers for sure).
And you have swallowed it, and have enjoyed the taste.
The time will come that you will have to vomit it all out.wakeup.
Wakup,Today its Kabalah followers, yesterday its was demons, before that it was a bipolar God who created evil in Satan and something about eating flesh, who knows what fruit cake doctrine you will come up with tomorrow. Your theology is inconsistent and unattractive.
I have no doctrine, I have belief and it grows. Doctrine is evil; it's a creation of controlling religious institutions. (none of you on this forum seem to agree on the same doctrine anyway).
Colter
Yes, Wakeup, Devo and myself agree with the same doctrine. So you are wrong there.
In the threads above there is lots of disagreement about what the Bible means.In Christianity in general, there are thousands of conflicting beliefs, deep divisions and churches to go with them.
There won’t be an end times for this world for billions of years, the kingdom of heaven is spiritual, it’s been here since Jesus established it, new more open minded people in the future will understand it.
So you are wrong there.
Colter
Quote (Colter @ Jan. 09 2014,01:19) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 09 2014,01:05) Quote (Colter @ Jan. 08 2014,23:31) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 08 2014,22:36) Colter. As there are bad urantia followers so are also bad christians.
We are not discussing people but doctrine.
Your new doctrine is compiled by *antichrists jews*.
(kabalah followers for sure).
And you have swallowed it, and have enjoyed the taste.
The time will come that you will have to vomit it all out.wakeup.
Wakup,Today its Kabalah followers, yesterday its was demons, before that it was a bipolar God who created evil in Satan and something about eating flesh, who knows what fruit cake doctrine you will come up with tomorrow. Your theology is inconsistent and unattractive.
I have no doctrine, I have belief and it grows. Doctrine is evil; it's a creation of controlling religious institutions. (none of you on this forum seem to agree on the same doctrine anyway).
Colter
Colter.You seem to ignore the fact that those writers of the UB,
are antichrists jews. And you are supporting them.
But also sort of praising Christ at the same time.
That only makes you a harlot.
It is time to put down those books and come to Christ's Words only.Let me reapeat it. Those jews are the same that crucified Christ. Do you hear me?
wakeup.
Wakup,
You seem to be more of a liar than ever, the Urantia revelation teaches that the Son of God is “Christ.”So in addition to being an idiot (because you haven’t read the UB), you bare false witness, you are a liar.
The topic here is the “end times” a teaching that is the result of the false teachings about the Messiah and the failure of Jesus to do what the scripture said he would do.
Christians are stuck on the false hope of an end times, eventually these people will die off and the UB will replace the conflicted, discredited Catholic Bible book.
Colter
Colter.2 Corinthians 11:4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.
Galatians 1:6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
1 Timothy 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
(THIS WAS SAID 2000YRS AGO).HOW CAN YOU BE SO SURE, THE UB IS NOT DEMON INSPIRED? HOW CAN YOU EVER PROOF THAT?
HOW CAN YOU BE SO SURE THAT THOSE SCRIPTURES ABOVE, ARE FALSE?There was a woman that had a spirit guide and named himself Abraham. And he said that he is not one but many.
He belongs to the consciousness of the universe.
And so do we.
This is in total contradiction to God's teachings.
THERE ARE DEMONS AT PLAY HERE,FROM THE BEGINNING.wakeup.
Quote (Colter @ Jan. 09 2014,01:19) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 09 2014,01:05) Quote (Colter @ Jan. 08 2014,23:31) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 08 2014,22:36) Colter. As there are bad urantia followers so are also bad christians.
We are not discussing people but doctrine.
Your new doctrine is compiled by *antichrists jews*.
(kabalah followers for sure).
And you have swallowed it, and have enjoyed the taste.
The time will come that you will have to vomit it all out.wakeup.
Wakup,Today its Kabalah followers, yesterday its was demons, before that it was a bipolar God who created evil in Satan and something about eating flesh, who knows what fruit cake doctrine you will come up with tomorrow. Your theology is inconsistent and unattractive.
I have no doctrine, I have belief and it grows. Doctrine is evil; it's a creation of controlling religious institutions. (none of you on this forum seem to agree on the same doctrine anyway).
Colter
Colter.You seem to ignore the fact that those writers of the UB,
are antichrists jews. And you are supporting them.
But also sort of praising Christ at the same time.
That only makes you a harlot.
It is time to put down those books and come to Christ's Words only.Let me reapeat it. Those jews are the same that crucified Christ. Do you hear me?
wakeup.
Wakup,
You seem to be more of a liar than ever, the Urantia revelation teaches that the Son of God is “Christ.”So in addition to being an idiot (because you haven’t read the UB), you bare false witness, you are a liar.
The topic here is the “end times” a teaching that is the result of the false teachings about the Messiah and the failure of Jesus to do what the scripture said he would do.
Christians are stuck on the false hope of an end times, eventually these people will die off and the UB will replace the conflicted, discredited Catholic Bible book.
Colter
Colter.And so does ISLAM teach Jesus, and Mary,and Abraham, and Moses.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 09 2014,06:37) Quote (Colter @ Jan. 09 2014,01:19) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 09 2014,01:05) Quote (Colter @ Jan. 08 2014,23:31) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 08 2014,22:36) Colter. As there are bad urantia followers so are also bad christians.
We are not discussing people but doctrine.
Your new doctrine is compiled by *antichrists jews*.
(kabalah followers for sure).
And you have swallowed it, and have enjoyed the taste.
The time will come that you will have to vomit it all out.wakeup.
Wakup,Today its Kabalah followers, yesterday its was demons, before that it was a bipolar God who created evil in Satan and something about eating flesh, who knows what fruit cake doctrine you will come up with tomorrow. Your theology is inconsistent and unattractive.
I have no doctrine, I have belief and it grows. Doctrine is evil; it's a creation of controlling religious institutions. (none of you on this forum seem to agree on the same doctrine anyway).
Colter
Colter.You seem to ignore the fact that those writers of the UB,
are antichrists jews. And you are supporting them.
But also sort of praising Christ at the same time.
That only makes you a harlot.
It is time to put down those books and come to Christ's Words only.Let me reapeat it. Those jews are the same that crucified Christ. Do you hear me?
wakeup.
Wakup,
You seem to be more of a liar than ever, the Urantia revelation teaches that the Son of God is “Christ.”So in addition to being an idiot (because you haven’t read the UB), you bare false witness, you are a liar.
The topic here is the “end times” a teaching that is the result of the false teachings about the Messiah and the failure of Jesus to do what the scripture said he would do.
Christians are stuck on the false hope of an end times, eventually these people will die off and the UB will replace the conflicted, discredited Catholic Bible book.
Colter
Colter.2 Corinthians 11:4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.
Galatians 1:6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
1 Timothy 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
(THIS WAS SAID 2000YRS AGO).HOW CAN YOU BE SO SURE, THE UB IS NOT DEMON INSPIRED? HOW CAN YOU EVER PROOF THAT?
HOW CAN YOU BE SO SURE THAT THOSE SCRIPTURES ABOVE, ARE FALSE?There was a woman that had a spirit guide and named himself Abraham. And he said that he is not one but many.
He belongs to the consciousness of the universe.
And so do we.
This is in total contradiction to God's teachings.
THERE ARE DEMONS AT PLAY HERE,FROM THE BEGINNING.wakeup.
Well for one, neither Satan nor demons ever promoted faith in the unseen Father. They were rebel Atheist.Two, Paul taught a different gospel than the original “good news” that was taught 3 years before the cross. He wasn't taught by Jesus, he inserted himself in the building of the Christian church.
We know the creation story in the Bible is a false teaching, we know the Flood story is a false teaching, we can see the edits and errors of the Torah as well as the NT errors so, God doesn’t expect me to believe things that I know are wrong.
I have a relationship with a real God, not a theology inherited.
Colter
Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 09 2014,06:42) Quote (Colter @ Jan. 09 2014,01:19) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 09 2014,01:05) Quote (Colter @ Jan. 08 2014,23:31) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 08 2014,22:36) Colter. As there are bad urantia followers so are also bad christians.
We are not discussing people but doctrine.
Your new doctrine is compiled by *antichrists jews*.
(kabalah followers for sure).
And you have swallowed it, and have enjoyed the taste.
The time will come that you will have to vomit it all out.wakeup.
Wakup,Today its Kabalah followers, yesterday its was demons, before that it was a bipolar God who created evil in Satan and something about eating flesh, who knows what fruit cake doctrine you will come up with tomorrow. Your theology is inconsistent and unattractive.
I have no doctrine, I have belief and it grows. Doctrine is evil; it's a creation of controlling religious institutions. (none of you on this forum seem to agree on the same doctrine anyway).
Colter
Colter.You seem to ignore the fact that those writers of the UB,
are antichrists jews. And you are supporting them.
But also sort of praising Christ at the same time.
That only makes you a harlot.
It is time to put down those books and come to Christ's Words only.Let me reapeat it. Those jews are the same that crucified Christ. Do you hear me?
wakeup.
Wakup,
You seem to be more of a liar than ever, the Urantia revelation teaches that the Son of God is “Christ.”So in addition to being an idiot (because you haven’t read the UB), you bare false witness, you are a liar.
The topic here is the “end times” a teaching that is the result of the false teachings about the Messiah and the failure of Jesus to do what the scripture said he would do.
Christians are stuck on the false hope of an end times, eventually these people will die off and the UB will replace the conflicted, discredited Catholic Bible book.
Colter
Colter.And so does ISLAM teach Jesus, and Mary,and Abraham, and Moses.
wakeup.
No, you are wrong, Islam does not teach Jesus is the Son of God. You need to think more before you respond.Colter
Quote (Colter @ Jan. 09 2014,07:27) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 09 2014,06:42) Quote (Colter @ Jan. 09 2014,01:19) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 09 2014,01:05) Quote (Colter @ Jan. 08 2014,23:31) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 08 2014,22:36) Colter. As there are bad urantia followers so are also bad christians.
We are not discussing people but doctrine.
Your new doctrine is compiled by *antichrists jews*.
(kabalah followers for sure).
And you have swallowed it, and have enjoyed the taste.
The time will come that you will have to vomit it all out.wakeup.
Wakup,Today its Kabalah followers, yesterday its was demons, before that it was a bipolar God who created evil in Satan and something about eating flesh, who knows what fruit cake doctrine you will come up with tomorrow. Your theology is inconsistent and unattractive.
I have no doctrine, I have belief and it grows. Doctrine is evil; it's a creation of controlling religious institutions. (none of you on this forum seem to agree on the same doctrine anyway).
Colter
Colter.You seem to ignore the fact that those writers of the UB,
are antichrists jews. And you are supporting them.
But also sort of praising Christ at the same time.
That only makes you a harlot.
It is time to put down those books and come to Christ's Words only.Let me reapeat it. Those jews are the same that crucified Christ. Do you hear me?
wakeup.
Wakup,
You seem to be more of a liar than ever, the Urantia revelation teaches that the Son of God is “Christ.”So in addition to being an idiot (because you haven’t read the UB), you bare false witness, you are a liar.
The topic here is the “end times” a teaching that is the result of the false teachings about the Messiah and the failure of Jesus to do what the scripture said he would do.
Christians are stuck on the false hope of an end times, eventually these people will die off and the UB will replace the conflicted, discredited Catholic Bible book.
Colter
Colter.And so does ISLAM teach Jesus, and Mary,and Abraham, and Moses.
wakeup.
No, you are wrong, Islam does not teach Jesus is the Son of God. You need to think more before you respond.Colter
Colter.You need to ask Bodi that.
They belive that Mary gave birth to a son by the Holy spirit.
Dont forget that THE DEVIL ALSO BELIEVE IN GOD.
The legion also believe in the Son of God.Colter. You are simply ignoring the fact that those scribes
are ANTICHRISTS. There are many sects in israel.
All with their own believes. Those UB jewish writers
could belong to the kabalah,or some other sect.
Would one seek spiritual questions, of an atheists?wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 09 2014,17:30) Quote (Colter @ Jan. 09 2014,07:27) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 09 2014,06:42) Quote (Colter @ Jan. 09 2014,01:19) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 09 2014,01:05) Quote (Colter @ Jan. 08 2014,23:31) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 08 2014,22:36) Colter. As there are bad urantia followers so are also bad christians.
We are not discussing people but doctrine.
Your new doctrine is compiled by *antichrists jews*.
(kabalah followers for sure).
And you have swallowed it, and have enjoyed the taste.
The time will come that you will have to vomit it all out.wakeup.
Wakup,Today its Kabalah followers, yesterday its was demons, before that it was a bipolar God who created evil in Satan and something about eating flesh, who knows what fruit cake doctrine you will come up with tomorrow. Your theology is inconsistent and unattractive.
I have no doctrine, I have belief and it grows. Doctrine is evil; it's a creation of controlling religious institutions. (none of you on this forum seem to agree on the same doctrine anyway).
Colter
Colter.You seem to ignore the fact that those writers of the UB,
are antichrists jews. And you are supporting them.
But also sort of praising Christ at the same time.
That only makes you a harlot.
It is time to put down those books and come to Christ's Words only.Let me reapeat it. Those jews are the same that crucified Christ. Do you hear me?
wakeup.
Wakup,
You seem to be more of a liar than ever, the Urantia revelation teaches that the Son of God is “Christ.”So in addition to being an idiot (because you haven’t read the UB), you bare false witness, you are a liar.
The topic here is the “end times” a teaching that is the result of the false teachings about the Messiah and the failure of Jesus to do what the scripture said he would do.
Christians are stuck on the false hope of an end times, eventually these people will die off and the UB will replace the conflicted, discredited Catholic Bible book.
Colter
Colter.And so does ISLAM teach Jesus, and Mary,and Abraham, and Moses.
wakeup.
No, you are wrong, Islam does not teach Jesus is the Son of God. You need to think more before you respond.Colter
Colter.You need to ask Bodi that.
They belive that Mary gave birth to a son by the Holy spirit.
Dont forget that THE DEVIL ALSO BELIEVE IN GOD.
The legion also believe in the Son of God.Colter. You are simply ignoring the fact that those scribes
are ANTICHRISTS. There are many sects in israel.
All with their own believes. Those UB jewish writers
could belong to the kabalah,or some other sect.
Would one seek spiritual questions, of an atheists?wakeup.
Wakeup, still a lying scumbag!*Muslims believe Jesus is a prophet, not the Son of God.
*You want Jews to be the authors of the UB because their OT has been so discredited.
*The archeological and historic facts of the UB continue to be validated.
Colter
Quote (Colter @ Jan. 09 2014,21:49) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 09 2014,17:30) Quote (Colter @ Jan. 09 2014,07:27) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 09 2014,06:42) Quote (Colter @ Jan. 09 2014,01:19) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 09 2014,01:05) Quote (Colter @ Jan. 08 2014,23:31) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 08 2014,22:36) Colter. As there are bad urantia followers so are also bad christians.
We are not discussing people but doctrine.
Your new doctrine is compiled by *antichrists jews*.
(kabalah followers for sure).
And you have swallowed it, and have enjoyed the taste.
The time will come that you will have to vomit it all out.wakeup.
Wakup,Today its Kabalah followers, yesterday its was demons, before that it was a bipolar God who created evil in Satan and something about eating flesh, who knows what fruit cake doctrine you will come up with tomorrow. Your theology is inconsistent and unattractive.
I have no doctrine, I have belief and it grows. Doctrine is evil; it's a creation of controlling religious institutions. (none of you on this forum seem to agree on the same doctrine anyway).
Colter
Colter.You seem to ignore the fact that those writers of the UB,
are antichrists jews. And you are supporting them.
But also sort of praising Christ at the same time.
That only makes you a harlot.
It is time to put down those books and come to Christ's Words only.Let me reapeat it. Those jews are the same that crucified Christ. Do you hear me?
wakeup.
Wakup,
You seem to be more of a liar than ever, the Urantia revelation teaches that the Son of God is “Christ.”So in addition to being an idiot (because you haven’t read the UB), you bare false witness, you are a liar.
The topic here is the “end times” a teaching that is the result of the false teachings about the Messiah and the failure of Jesus to do what the scripture said he would do.
Christians are stuck on the false hope of an end times, eventually these people will die off and the UB will replace the conflicted, discredited Catholic Bible book.
Colter
Colter.And so does ISLAM teach Jesus, and Mary,and Abraham, and Moses.
wakeup.
No, you are wrong, Islam does not teach Jesus is the Son of God. You need to think more before you respond.Colter
Colter.You need to ask Bodi that.
They belive that Mary gave birth to a son by the Holy spirit.
Dont forget that THE DEVIL ALSO BELIEVE IN GOD.
The legion also believe in the Son of God.Colter. You are simply ignoring the fact that those scribes
are ANTICHRISTS. There are many sects in israel.
All with their own believes. Those UB jewish writers
could belong to the kabalah,or some other sect.
Would one seek spiritual questions, of an atheists?wakeup.
Wakeup, still a lying scumbag!*Muslims believe Jesus is a prophet, not the Son of God.
*You want Jews to be the authors of the UB because their OT has been so discredited.
*The archeological and historic facts of the UB continue to be validated.
Colter
Colter.Those jewish writers are ANTICHRISTS.
They do anything to discredit the word of God.
And promote their own theology.
In fact that is their whole purpose; to distort,to confuse.
To divide,to scatter the sheep, to conquer.
Mentioning God and Jesus as a bait.
Same with islam,mormons,church of scientology,jw's,
and many more. They have been infiltrared by the enemy.
The tares amongst the wheat.wakeup.
Trying to stay on topic as per T8's request.
From my religious belief:
……”The kingdom, to the Jews, was the Israelite community; to the gentiles it became the Christian church. To Jesus the kingdom was the sum of those individuals who had confessed their faith in the fatherhood of God, thereby declaring their wholehearted dedication to the doing of the will of God, thus becoming members of the spiritual brotherhood of man.
(1865.2) 170:5.12 The Master fully realized that certain social results would appear in the world as a consequence of the spread of the gospel of the kingdom; but he intended that all such desirable social manifestations should appear as unconscious and inevitable outgrowths, or natural fruits, of this inner personal experience of individual believers, this purely spiritual fellowship and communion with the divine spirit which indwells and activates all such believers.
(1865.3) 170:5.13 Jesus foresaw that a social organization, or church, would follow the progress of the true spiritual kingdom, and that is why he never opposed the apostles’ practicing the rite of John’s baptism. He taught that the truth-loving soul, the one who hungers and thirsts for righteousness, for God, is admitted by faith to the spiritual kingdom; at the same time the apostles taught that such a believer is admitted to the social organization of disciples by the outward rite of baptism.
(1865.4) 170:5.14 When Jesus’ immediate followers recognized their partial failure to realize his ideal of the establishment of the kingdom in the hearts of men by the spirit’s domination and guidance of the individual believer, they set about to save his teaching from being wholly lost by substituting for the Master’s ideal of the kingdom the gradual creation of a visible social organization, the Christian church. And when they had accomplished this program of substitution, in order to maintain consistency and to provide for the recognition of the Master’s teaching regarding the fact of the kingdom, they proceeded to set the kingdom off into the future. The church, just as soon as it was well established, began to teach that the kingdom was in reality to appear at the culmination of the Christian age, at the second coming of Christ.
(1865.5) 170:5.15 In this manner the kingdom became the concept of an age, the idea of a future visitation, and the ideal of the final redemption of the saints of the Most High. The early Christians (and all too many of the later ones) generally lost sight of the Father-and-son idea embodied in Jesus’ teaching of the kingdom, while they substituted therefor the well-organized social fellowship of the church. The church thus became in the main a social brotherhood which effectively displaced Jesus’ concept and ideal of a spiritual brotherhood.
(1865.6) 170:5.16 Jesus’ ideal concept largely failed, but upon the foundation of the Master’s personal life and teachings, supplemented by the Greek and Persian concepts of eternal life and augmented by Philo’s doctrine of the temporal contrasted with the spiritual, Paul went forth to build up one of the most progressive human societies which has ever existed on Urantia.
(1865.7) 170:5.17 The concept of Jesus is still alive in the advanced religions of the world. Paul’s Christian church is the socialized and humanized shadow of what Jesus intended the kingdom of heaven to be — and what it most certainly will yet become. Paul and his successors partly transferred the issues of eternal life from the individual to the church. Christ thus became the head of the church rather than the elder brother of each individual believer in the Father’s family of the kingdom. Paul and his contemporaries applied all of Jesus’ spiritual implications regarding himself and the individual believer to the church as a group of believers; and in doing this, they struck a deathblow to Jesus’ concept of the divine kingdom in the heart of the individual believer.” UB 1955
Colter
Colter.
Tell us the history of the UB.
Where and how it started and why.
And if possible some factual evidence.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 10 2014,10:29) Colter. Tell us the history of the UB.
Where and how it started and why.
And if possible some factual evidence.wakeup.
The Wikipedia on the Urantia Papers does a good job of answering your questions.For validation of facts go to UBthenews this sight covers recent discoveries.
Colter
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