Christians and muslims believe the same thing

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Quote (terraricca @ July 17 2011,02:50) Quote (Stu @ July 17 2011,03:07) Quote (terraricca @ July 16 2011,18:42) stu Quote I still really don't know what you are driving at.  Are you testing some religious concept with which I am unfamiliar?  In what way are you suggesting a man could be separated from the same man? Stuart we are two parts flesh and bone but there is what you call the mental state if you want,the mind,feelings not the senses the ones from the heart emotion, the mind of reasoning, this is were my questions relate to understand ? OK.  Your mental functions are the movements of electrochemical signals between neurons in your brain. Stuart stu you did not answer my questions or do you not want to ? you tell me what it is but not what part can be separated from the flesh, you see i need help, what is the conscience of men ? do animals have a conscience ? Pierre Those things are all functions of your brain, involving electrochemical signals moving between neurons, so I did answer your question. Did you want the mechanisms for how they work, too? The brain controls behaviour and it has the properties of memory and awareness.  The brain is made from the recipe contained in DNA, so that is one source of coding of useful survival behaviours, and the brain is plastic so it can learn behaviours by strengthening or eliminating connections between neurons.   The plastic brain changes to accommodate what is happening in its immediate environment, so for example, young children with very plastic brains will quickly imitate their parents and others, including their ethical behaviour.  Then, the brain is capable of ethical philosophy so it can think and decide what is right.  We have a strong sense of justice for example, and this leads to all sorts of discussion and lawmaking that wouldn't happen if we didn't.  Of course within subcultures people might develop ethical ideas with which you and I would disagree, such as in criminal gangs.   So conscience exists as a function of the physical brain, based on genetics and cultural influence.  This must be so because you know that people can change in their ethical opinions and behaviour if they suffer damage to the brain. So, you tell me.  What part can be separated from the flesh?  I don't think there is anything. Stuart

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how many cells different ones in a human body?

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Quote (terraricca @ July 16 2011,18:42) stu Quote I still really don't know what you are driving at.  Are you testing some religious concept with which I am unfamiliar?  In what way are you suggesting a man could be separated from the same man? Stuart we are two parts flesh and bone but there is what you call the mental state if you want,the mind,feelings not the senses the ones from the heart emotion, the mind of reasoning, this is were my questions relate to understand ? OK.  Your mental functions are the movements of electrochemical signals between neurons in your brain. Stuart

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wish one is the motor of the body, the brain or the knowledge of the brain

or our mechanical structure ?

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Have we moved on from conscience now? Stuart

just temporary ,this is just one of the many faces of man

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Quote (terraricca @ July 17 2011,08:48) stu is there no moral to your evolution system ? because billions of people will die soon Pierre Billions of people will die of what? What is “[my] evolution system”? I have no idea what you are talking about. Have we moved on from conscience now? Stuart

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why do those people have to die ?

when we talking about men evolution it have to include is own evolution as a species no?

this would include the way he lives,alone and in society
and is ability to cope with environment no?

i think so

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how many cells different ones in a human body? Pierre

Do you mean how many cells are there in one human body, or how many different kinds of cell are there?

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why do those people have to die ? when we talking about men evolution it have to include is own evolution as a species no? this would include the way he lives,alone and in society and is ability to cope with environment no? i think so Pierre

I wonder if you could make these questions a bit more grammatical. I'm constantly having to ask you what you mean.

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Quote (terraricca @ July 18 2011,12:16) how many cells different ones in a human body? Pierre Do you mean how many cells are there in one human body, or how many different kinds of cell are there? Stuart

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how many different kinds of cell are there?

yes

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Quote (terraricca @ July 18 2011,12:33) why do those people have to die ? when we talking about men evolution it have to include is own evolution as a species no? this would include the way he lives,alone and in society and is ability to cope with environment Pierre I wonder if you could make these questions a bit more grammatical.  I'm constantly having to ask you what you mean. Stuart

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why do those people have to die ?

when we talking about men evolution it have to include is own evolution as a species ,

this would include the way he lives,alone and in society
and is ability to cope with environment,

Pierre

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Quote (Stu @ July 18 2011,19:57) Quote (terraricca @ July 18 2011,12:33) why do those people have to die ? when we talking about men evolution it have to include is own evolution as a species no? this would include the way he lives,alone and in society and is ability to cope with environment Pierre I wonder if you could make these questions a bit more grammatical.  I'm constantly having to ask you what you mean. Stuart stu Quote (terraricca @ July 18 2011,12:33) why do those people have to die ? when we talking about men evolution it have to include is own evolution as a species , this would include the way he lives,alone and in society and is ability to cope with environment, Pierre

Sorry, repeating ungrammatical questions does not make them more understandable.

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Quote how many different kinds of cell are there? yes

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_cells

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Quote (terraricca @ July 18 2011,15:17) Quote how many different kinds of cell are there? yes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_cells Stuart

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There are several hundred distinct human cell types,.[1][2][3] There are between 50 and 75 trillion cells in the human body.[citation needed]

Cell types can be classified by their tissue of origin. However, it is possible for some cells to have their behavior induced by surrounding tissue.

do you agree with this stu ?

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Quote (terraricca @ July 18 2011,12:33) why do those people have to die ? when we talking about men evolution it have to include is own evolution as a species no? this would include the way he lives,alone and in society and is ability to cope with environment no? i think so Pierre I wonder if you could make these questions a bit more grammatical.  I'm constantly having to ask you what you mean. Stuart

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how as men come to today evolution from his start ?

and why are men so self centered ?

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Quote (Stu @ July 17 2011,03:07) Quote (terraricca @ July 16 2011,18:42) stu Quote I still really don't know what you are driving at.  Are you testing some religious concept with which I am unfamiliar?  In what way are you suggesting a man could be separated from the same man? Stuart we are two parts flesh and bone but there is what you call the mental state if you want,the mind,feelings not the senses the ones from the heart emotion, the mind of reasoning, this is were my questions relate to understand ? OK.  Your mental functions are the movements of electrochemical signals between neurons in your brain. Stuart stu wish one is the motor of the body, the brain or the knowledge of the brain or our mechanical structure ? Pierre

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witch is the driving force the brain or the body ?

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There are several hundred distinct human cell types,.[1][2][3] There are between 50 and 75 trillion cells in the human body.[citation needed] Cell types can be classified by their tissue of origin. However, it is possible for some cells to have their behavior induced by surrounding tissue. do you agree with this stu ?

Obviously, hormones are chemical signals given out by various glands that can control the behaviour of other cells. It also applies to development. My understanding of this is a bit thin, but there are chemical signals that cause cells to behave differently depending on how far they are from the cell doing the chemical signaling. Hox proteins, made by hox genes do different jobs in the development of tissue depending on where they are.

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how as men come to today evolution from his start ?

This is one that definitely needs rewording. I’m completely lost as to what you mean. As you can appreciate, the wording is everything.

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and why are men so self centered ?

Why are they so altruistic?

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witch is the driving force the brain or the body ?

It depends what you think is being driven. In the end, the brain is part of the body.

The answer could be that the pituitary gland is a master hormone signaller, so it is in control. Another could be the parasympathetic nervous system is in control. Sometimes the sympathetic nervous system seems to hijack control from everything else. Most of those originate in the brain. The interesting point is that the brain contains control mechanisms that are sometimes contradictory to one another. That is because it is the result of natural selection.

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The interesting point is that the brain contains control mechanisms that are sometimes contradictory to one another. That is because it is the result of natural selection

give me some examples please

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It depends what you think is being driven.

if i want to go to Africa ,if I want to read books ,if i want to go in Politics,if i want to believe in God, if i do not want to believe in God ,if i want to believe in sex only ,what is the driving force in me that make it happen

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terraricca Quote There are several hundred distinct human cell types,.[1][2][3] There are between 50 and 75 trillion cells in the human body.[citation needed] Cell types can be classified by their tissue of origin. However, it is possible for some cells to have their behavior induced by surrounding tissue. do you agree with this stu ? Obviously, hormones are chemical signals given out by various glands that can control the behaviour of other cells. It also applies to development. My understanding of this is a bit thin, but there are chemical signals that cause cells to behave differently depending on how far they are from the cell doing the chemical signaling. Hox proteins, made by hox genes do different jobs in the development of tissue depending on where they are.

so this are all but mechanical components inter active ,is this what you mean ?

Pierre

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Quote how as men come to today evolution from his start ? This is one that definitely needs rewording. I’m completely lost as to what you mean. As you can appreciate, the wording is everything.

in brief what is the history from the time men stood up and where men and there achievement until today ,including there reasons to existence if any

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stu Quote The interesting point is that the brain contains control mechanisms that are sometimes contradictory to one another.  That is because it is the result of natural selection give me some examples please Pierre

Your amygdala, part of your limbic system, contains rough, emotional memories of events from your past that were particularly vivid, and matches those events to what you are seeing / hearing / sensing. Those sensory signals are also going to the neocortex, the part of the brain that contains, essentially, our human ability to reason. The problem arises when an emotional response is stimulated by the amygdala much faster than a considered, reasoned response from the neocortex. For example, people suggest you count to 10 before responding when you are angry. That is to give your neocortex time to respond in a more sophisticated way.

The instant, emotional response would have been essential for the survival of our distant mammalian ancestors, but it is often an impediment for us as highly social animals. I am sure this hijacking by the amygdala is a significant basis for many murders, the ones where people “see red” then act impulsively, as so often is the case in domestic homicide.

Stuart

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stu Quote Quote   how as men come to today evolution from his start ? This is one that definitely needs rewording.  I’m completely lost as to what you mean.  As you can appreciate, the wording is everything. in brief what is the history from the time men stood up and where men and there achievement until today ,including there reasons to existence if any Pierre

Here is a good place to start:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_evolution

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