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and I can add Rene Descartes, Braise Pasquale, Homer , Plato ,Socrates ,Thomas Aquinas ,Voltaire ,Zola, Nietzsche, Gibran Cahill,Machavelli, and many others,Interesting list. Are you confident Homer and Socrates actually existed?
actually I do not care if they live or not ,I am only interested in what they have said and the usefulness to me to understand my world ,
all is toughs food for the mind,all other food is for the animal part
Pierre
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You see Stuart ,what I did when I start to study the bible ,I at first did not believe it ,but for me the formula that I put in my mind was this ;IF THERE IS A GOD ,THEN ALL WHAT HE SAYS AND DO WOULD HAVE TO APPLY NOT TO A GROUP OF PERSONS BUT ON AND TO ALL MANKIND, and so all his laws ordinances and wisdom ,would under no condition CHANGE IN TIME.This was my challenge to all my written readings and talks.
There is the problem. You didn’t question the absurd assumption you are making. Your treatment has been lacking.
please could explain ?
Pierre
stu
Quote And after about ten years I came to the conclusion that not one men as survived my line of questions ,This is why i told you if you agree the words that say ,ALL IS VANITY ALL IS MEANNINGLESS ;SEE men is the only one that can think on this THE MEANING OF LIVE IT SELF, What do you mean by “the meaning of life”?
if i can ask what is the meaning of live ,so i need the answer,if there is no answer then we are in the absurd because we would have develop useless abilities,what are not doing nothing good for us.
what you think ?
Pierre
stu
I think so. I still have no idea what you think a god is, or what you think the alternative is to just dying. I won’t believe you without evidence, and I don’t think anyone should believe you without evidence.
How about you cash a cheque for me, for $100,000. I will pay you back once we have both passed over into the afterlife. Now I understand your mythology would reject the idea of money in whatever you think happens after death, but would you take up that offer just for a bet?
If not, why not?
Stuart
——————————————————————————–before I can answer you please answer this question;what is men ? a animal or and intellectual animal ,or……………………..?
Pierre
Quote (terraricca @ July 08 2011,06:10) stu Quote Quote
and I can add Rene Descartes, Braise Pasquale, Homer , Plato ,Socrates ,Thomas Aquinas ,Voltaire ,Zola, Nietzsche, Gibran Cahill,Machavelli, and many others,Interesting list. Are you confident Homer and Socrates actually existed?
actually I do not care if they live or not ,I am only interested in what they have said and the usefulness to me to understand my world ,
all is toughs food for the mind,all other food is for the animal part
Pierre
Indeed, the idea is the thing. Is that not the same with Jesus? It does not matter whether he existed, it is what others claim he said that gets you halfway from the streets to an ethical worldview.Stuart
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You see Stuart ,what I did when I start to study the bible ,I at first did not believe it ,but for me the formula that I put in my mind was this ;IF THERE IS A GOD ,THEN ALL WHAT HE SAYS AND DO WOULD HAVE TO APPLY NOT TO A GROUP OF PERSONS BUT ON AND TO ALL MANKIND, and so all his laws ordinances and wisdom ,would under no condition CHANGE IN TIME.This was my challenge to all my written readings and talks.
There is the problem. You didn’t question the absurd assumption you are making. Your treatment has been lacking.
please could explain ?
Pierre
What “IF THERE IS NOT A GOD”?Stuart
Quote (terraricca @ July 08 2011,06:17) stu Quote And after about ten years I came to the conclusion that not one men as survived my line of questions ,This is why i told you if you agree the words that say ,ALL IS VANITY ALL IS MEANNINGLESS ;SEE men is the only one that can think on this THE MEANING OF LIVE IT SELF, What do you mean by “the meaning of life”?
if i can ask what is the meaning of live ,so i need the answer,if there is no answer then we are in the absurd because we would have develop useless abilities,what are not doing nothing good for us.
what you think ?
Pierre
I hope you decided what the meaning of your life is. I decide mine.Stuart
Quote (terraricca @ July 08 2011,06:22) stu I think so. I still have no idea what you think a god is, or what you think the alternative is to just dying. I won’t believe you without evidence, and I don’t think anyone should believe you without evidence.
How about you cash a cheque for me, for $100,000. I will pay you back once we have both passed over into the afterlife. Now I understand your mythology would reject the idea of money in whatever you think happens after death, but would you take up that offer just for a bet?
If not, why not?
Stuart
——————————————————————————–before I can answer you please answer this question;what is men ? a animal or and intellectual animal ,or……………………..?
Pierre
Men are the males of the species homo sapiens. We are animals (because we are not plants or protists or fungi or bacteria or amoeba). We are African great apes, most closely related to chimpanzees, bonobos, gorillas (the other African apes), and orangutans (the Asian great apes). Other great apes also pass the self-recognition mirror test.We are intelligent, but so are cetaceans. Domestic cats are about as intelligent as 3 year old humans.
Stuart
Quote (Stu @ July 08 2011,06:41) Quote (terraricca @ July 08 2011,06:22) stu I think so. I still have no idea what you think a god is, or what you think the alternative is to just dying. I won’t believe you without evidence, and I don’t think anyone should believe you without evidence.
How about you cash a cheque for me, for $100,000. I will pay you back once we have both passed over into the afterlife. Now I understand your mythology would reject the idea of money in whatever you think happens after death, but would you take up that offer just for a bet?
If not, why not?
Stuart
——————————————————————————–before I can answer you please answer this question;what is men ? a animal or and intellectual animal ,or……………………..?
Pierre
Men are the males of the species homo sapiens. We are animals (because we are not plants or protists or fungi or bacteria or amoeba). We are African great apes, most closely related to chimpanzees, bonobos, gorillas (the other African apes), and orangutans (the Asian great apes). Other great apes also pass the self-recognition mirror test.We are intelligent, but so are cetaceans. Domestic cats are about as intelligent as 3 year old humans.
Stuart
The difference between Animals and Humans is that Humans possess Creative intelligence animals do not they cannot make far off future plans or recreate technologies. God Creates Man Recreates and animals AnimateQuote (Stu @ July 08 2011,13:35) Quote (terraricca @ July 08 2011,06:10) stu Quote Quote
and I can add Rene Descartes, Braise Pasquale, Homer , Plato ,Socrates ,Thomas Aquinas ,Voltaire ,Zola, Nietzsche, Gibran Cahill,Machavelli, and many others,Interesting list. Are you confident Homer and Socrates actually existed?
actually I do not care if they live or not ,I am only interested in what they have said and the usefulness to me to understand my world ,
all is toughs food for the mind,all other food is for the animal part
Pierre
Indeed, the idea is the thing. Is that not the same with Jesus? It does not matter whether he existed, it is what others claim he said that gets you halfway from the streets to an ethical worldview.Stuart
stuyes it is with all things ether math,science ,God,history ect
but we as individual sort things out ,right ?
stings like killing,stealing,goodness ,love ,sex,ect
what make us make those choices ?what you think?Pierre
Quote (Stu @ July 08 2011,13:36) Quote (terraricca @ July 08 2011,06:12) stu Quote Quote
You see Stuart ,what I did when I start to study the bible ,I at first did not believe it ,but for me the formula that I put in my mind was this ;IF THERE IS A GOD ,THEN ALL WHAT HE SAYS AND DO WOULD HAVE TO APPLY NOT TO A GROUP OF PERSONS BUT ON AND TO ALL MANKIND, and so all his laws ordinances and wisdom ,would under no condition CHANGE IN TIME.This was my challenge to all my written readings and talks.
There is the problem. You didn’t question the absurd assumption you are making. Your treatment has been lacking.
please could explain ?
Pierre
What “IF THERE IS NOT A GOD”?Stuart
stuthis is not the absurd until we prove it that it is,
but is we go into the intellectual world and see what men as accomplished is it not amazing what as been done in the past 100 years there was more accomplished in the past 100 years than in the past 5000 years I would say.
what you think?
Pierre
Quote (Stu @ July 08 2011,13:36) Quote (terraricca @ July 08 2011,06:17) stu Quote And after about ten years I came to the conclusion that not one men as survived my line of questions ,This is why i told you if you agree the words that say ,ALL IS VANITY ALL IS MEANNINGLESS ;SEE men is the only one that can think on this THE MEANING OF LIVE IT SELF, What do you mean by “the meaning of life”?
if i can ask what is the meaning of live ,so i need the answer,if there is no answer then we are in the absurd because we would have develop useless abilities,what are not doing nothing good for us.
what you think ?
Pierre
I hope you decided what the meaning of your life is. I decide mine.Stuart
stuthe meaning of live it self is not related to you or me but to the reasons that we as humans live ,like why we die?,why we live? ,why are we happy?, why are we sad?,why are we mad?,why are we fighting
????ectso those are my questions ,NO ANIMAL AS EVER ANSWERED THOSE QUESTION ,or did they?
Pierre
Quote (Stu @ July 08 2011,13:41) Quote (terraricca @ July 08 2011,06:22) stu I think so. I still have no idea what you think a god is, or what you think the alternative is to just dying. I won’t believe you without evidence, and I don’t think anyone should believe you without evidence.
How about you cash a cheque for me, for $100,000. I will pay you back once we have both passed over into the afterlife. Now I understand your mythology would reject the idea of money in whatever you think happens after death, but would you take up that offer just for a bet?
If not, why not?
Stuart
——————————————————————————–before I can answer you please answer this question;what is men ? a animal or and intellectual animal ,or……………………..?
Pierre
Men are the males of the species homo sapiens. We are animals (because we are not plants or protists or fungi or bacteria or amoeba). We are African great apes, most closely related to chimpanzees, bonobos, gorillas (the other African apes), and orangutans (the Asian great apes). Other great apes also pass the self-recognition mirror test.We are intelligent, but so are cetaceans. Domestic cats are about as intelligent as 3 year old humans.
Stuart
stuok,let s go your way,tell me wen did it start that men became man from animals(apes),and wen did it stopped that men became men from animals ,?
Pierre
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Thank you for pointing that out, Ed. No, bats do not come from dinosaurs, but the bible implies that they do.Stuart
Hi Stuart,Where do you believe “bats” came from?
FALSE; the bible says God created everything!
Quote (Stu @ July 07 2011,17:04) Quote (942767 @ July 07 2011,12:04) Quote (Stu @ July 05 2011,16:42) Quote (942767 @ July 05 2011,11:33) Hi Stu: What came first, the chicken or the egg?
Love in Christ,
Marty
The egg.Stuart
Spoken like a true “Agnostic”.
No, you've lost me there.Please explain?
Stuart
Hi Stu:Where did the “egg” come from? Maybe from the creator of the Universe?
Love in Christ,
MartyQuote (bodhitharta @ July 08 2011,07:06) The difference between Animals and Humans is that Humans possess Creative intelligence animals do not they cannot make far off future plans or recreate technologies. God Creates Man Recreates and animals Animate
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7928996.stm
http://network.bestfriends.org/1709/news.aspx
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrock….-futureSo much for that theory.
Got any other stuff you just reckon might be true?
Stuart
Quote (terraricca @ July 08 2011,07:13) Quote (Stu @ July 08 2011,13:36) Quote (terraricca @ July 08 2011,06:12) stu Quote Quote
You see Stuart ,what I did when I start to study the bible ,I at first did not believe it ,but for me the formula that I put in my mind was this ;IF THERE IS A GOD ,THEN ALL WHAT HE SAYS AND DO WOULD HAVE TO APPLY NOT TO A GROUP OF PERSONS BUT ON AND TO ALL MANKIND, and so all his laws ordinances and wisdom ,would under no condition CHANGE IN TIME.This was my challenge to all my written readings and talks.
There is the problem. You didn’t question the absurd assumption you are making. Your treatment has been lacking.
please could explain ?
Pierre
What “IF THERE IS NOT A GOD”?Stuart
stuthis is not the absurd until we prove it that it is,
but is we go into the intellectual world and see what men as accomplished is it not amazing what as been done in the past 100 years there was more accomplished in the past 100 years than in the past 5000 years I would say.
what you think?
Pierre
Do you have an answer to my point that your treatment has been poor, in that you have based your argument on the assumed existence of an Imaginary Friend that prima facie does not exist?Stuart
Quote (942767 @ July 08 2011,12:30) Quote (Stu @ July 07 2011,17:04) Quote (942767 @ July 07 2011,12:04) Quote (Stu @ July 05 2011,16:42) Quote (942767 @ July 05 2011,11:33) Hi Stu: What came first, the chicken or the egg?
Love in Christ,
Marty
The egg.Stuart
Spoken like a true “Agnostic”.
No, you've lost me there.Please explain?
Stuart
Hi Stu:Where did the “egg” come from? Maybe from the creator of the Universe?
Love in Christ,
Marty
Maybe from the Flying Spaghetti Monster (bhna) too.Or Zeus, or Chaos and Eros?
Could have been any of these creators of the universe.
Or not.
Stuart
Quote (Ed J @ July 08 2011,08:46) Quote (Stu @ July 08 2011,05:48)
Thank you for pointing that out, Ed. No, bats do not come from dinosaurs, but the bible implies that they do.Stuart
Hi Stuart,Where do you believe “bats” came from?
FALSE; the bible says God created everything!
Like I said earlier, you obviously don't know anything about science.Otherwise you would not make such an inane remark.
Christianity: the religion for those who don't want to have to think about anything to any great depth.
Stuart
Quote (terraricca @ July 08 2011,07:21) I hope you decided what the meaning of your life is. I decide mine. Stuart[/quote]
stuthe meaning of live it self is not related to you or me but to the reasons that we as humans live ,like why we die?,why we live? ,why are we happy?, why are we sad?,why are we mad?,why are we fighting
????ectso those are my questions ,NO ANIMAL AS EVER ANSWERED THOSE QUESTION ,or did they?
Pierre
I disagree that the meaning of life consists of those questions.Stuart
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