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Quote (t8 @ April 14 2009,00:53) Here it is. Quote (Stu @ April 05 2009,06:41) Quote (t8 @ April 05 2009,00:29) But Stu, you believe in the everything came from nothing delusion, or the everything has existed forever in varying (non-living/aware) forms delusion.
You should fix up your own backyard before trying to help out others, don't you think?
I do believe that everything 'came from nothing', and while every piece of evidence we have points to that, I am not so prideful as to claim that strong contrary evidence would not change my mind. There are some things we just don't know.Is there anything you don't know, t8? You have access to an omniscient being who grants favours. How did the baryons get separated asymmetrically from the anti-baryons? Will you ask for us?
Stuart
So I take it that Hawking is your prophet of whom you follow? As indeed you mentioned that this is what Hawking believes.
BTW: I give you a point for at least being opened minded enough to say this could be wrong, but you lose that point with your bias toward there being a creator. If you are open minded and unbiased, then you should at least consider that a creator is just as possible as nothing being the cause, considering that you cannot comprehend either scenario.
Quote (t8 @ April 14 2009,17:41) Quote (Stu @ April 14 2009,10:57) I reject your religious criteria for denial. Unlike you, I do not have all the answers on which to base my decisions.
Beautiful. All the more reason you should shoot down possibilities. You cannot comprehend any of the three options, so shooting down one of them based on bias and ignorance is not the actions of a wise or smart person.
You gave two options in your last post t8.Can we add this tenet to christian mathematics?
2=3
Stuart
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 15 2009,16:43) Quote (t8 @ April 14 2009,00:53) Here it is. Quote (Stu @ April 05 2009,06:41) Quote (t8 @ April 05 2009,00:29) But Stu, you believe in the everything came from nothing delusion, or the everything has existed forever in varying (non-living/aware) forms delusion.
You should fix up your own backyard before trying to help out others, don't you think?
I do believe that everything 'came from nothing', and while every piece of evidence we have points to that, I am not so prideful as to claim that strong contrary evidence would not change my mind. There are some things we just don't know.Is there anything you don't know, t8? You have access to an omniscient being who grants favours. How did the baryons get separated asymmetrically from the anti-baryons? Will you ask for us?
Stuart
So I take it that Hawking is your prophet of whom you follow? As indeed you mentioned that this is what Hawking believes.
BTW: I give you a point for at least being opened minded enough to say this could be wrong, but you lose that point with your bias toward there being a creator. If you are open minded and unbiased, then you should at least consider that a creator is just as possible as nothing being the cause, considering that you cannot comprehend either scenario.
You are looking awfully pleased with yourself. Did you have a point to make, WJ?Stuart
Quote (Stu @ April 15 2009,18:45) You gave two options in your last post t8. Can we add this tenet to christian mathematics?
2=3
Stuart
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