Can god be tempted?

[KangarooJack]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 01 2010,03:49)

WJ………Why don't you ever even consider the what we are telling you from scripture is correct and Just ask God to reveal the truth to you. Look i respect you service to people seeking GOD, but trying to defend false teachings by not considering what we are saying is only hindering your service to others, I know what we are telling you is not the (ESTABLISHED) religion of this day, but it is none the less the truth.  Think about it WJ. peace and love to you and yours………………….gene

Gene,

It has been discovered that you do not esteem the Father as highly as Jesus did. So take the beam out of your own eye or zip the lip.

thinker

[Ed J]

Quote (martian @ April 01 2010,03:06)

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 31 2010,11:32) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 31 2010,10:32) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 30 2010,17:58) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 31 2010,09:18) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 30 2010,17:12) Hi WJ, Yes you tempt God by offering new doctrines in the name of His Son. He is patient though and wants all to be saved. So each division of the world's church has a little part of the truth and together they make a glorious bigger truth? NH Do you also claim to have all truth? Simple yes or no question! WJ Hi WJ, Who's the other, you? God bless Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org ED Actually it is you. You have never denied it and in fact with you accusations against all others who disagree with you by saying… “The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate except distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit”. Is evidence that you think you have all Truth and others do not see the “Big Picture” you call it! WJ Hi WJ, You should really pay attention to what I actually say! I have Posted this quote at least three times now on this forum… Gary Robb once said: “nobody can know everything about everything”. It would really serve 'you' a “lot better” if you could keep all the FACTS straight. Why do you continually insist on putting 'spin' on the things I say to you? Since when does familiarity with the big picture paramount to knowing “All Truth”? God bless Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Ed, When a person believes a doctrine that is a lie, deception and misdirection is all they have to defend it.

Hi Martin,

I just heard today (Click Here) this relevant Bible Verse from one of my favorite “Bible Teachers”…
Gal:2:6: But of these who seemed to be somewhat, (whatsoever they were, it maketh no matter to me:
God accepteth no man's person:) for they who seemed to be somewhat in conference added nothing to me:

“Our YHVH”=117, who originates outside of time, has a way of ALWAYS proving what his servants say! (Isaiah 44:26)
Isaiah 44:26 That confirmeth the word of his servant, and performeth the counsel of his messengers; that saith to Jerusalem
(City of Peace), Thou shalt be inhabited; and to the cities of Judah, Ye shall be built, and I will raise up the decayed places thereof:

God bless you Martin!
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
PS. Notice how that verse (Gal 2:6) has the same Theomatic value as (God=26) 26=יהוה YÄ=26!

[Ed J]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 01 2010,03:34)

ED I said you deny the very basic tenets of the Christian faith… WJ

Hi WJ,

What specifically are 'you' and 'your' accusational sounding word structure referring to?

God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 01 2010,03:34)

ED So as you can see that is the reason as well as the witness of the Holy Spirit that I reject you and your teachings just like you reject me and mine! But I wish you well! WJ

Hi WJ,

Matt.12:37: For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.
Notice how that verse uses the word AND instead of OR, because what 'you' say can “Change”!

Isaiah 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee(Ed J) shall prosper;
and every tongue that shall rise against thee(Ed J) in judgment (John 15:18-21)
thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of [YHVH], and their righteousness
is of me, saith [“I The LORD GOD”=117]. I don't reject you? (Rev.16:15 / Luke 21:34 / 1Thess.5:2)

Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17)
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 31 2010,16:17)

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 01 2010,03:34) ED I said you deny the very basic tenets of the Christian faith… WJ Hi WJ, What specifically are 'you' and 'your' accusational sounding word structure referring to? God bless Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Ed

Why do you cut off my sentence that tells you the answer and then proceed to ask me what I am refering too?

You say “that the Holy Spirit is the Father of Jesus”!

So please spare us of posting another 150 words of your false assumptions!

WJ

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 31 2010,16:41)

Notice how that verse uses the word AND instead of OR, because what 'you' say can “Change”!

Circular! Because the same word is to you!

Matt.12:37: For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

WJ

[Ed J]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 01 2010,08:48)

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 31 2010,16:41) Notice how that verse uses the word AND instead of OR, because what 'you' say can “Change”! Circular! Because the same word is to you! Matt.12:37: For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned. WJ

Hi WJ,

Your use of the “Edit” button (regarding Posts to me) is PROOF of what I say!

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 12 2009,09:11)

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 21 2009,16:31) If you believe that scriptures are corrupted or were added, then your argument is circular for it could be said that the Arians added scriptures also to discredit the Trinity! You lose all crediblity in claiming any scripture to be true because you believe they are corrupt. It is odd that people like yourself would argue a doctrine from a book that they believe is corrupt. LOL WJ Hi WJ, You present a false argument, WJ. Just because your beliefs have serious flaws in them does NOT mean we cannot learn from you? God bless Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

See WJ, you can learn from me! You now understand that 'Athiest logic' is 'wrong'!

God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 01 2010,08:43)

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 31 2010,16:17) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 01 2010,03:34) ED I said you deny the very basic tenets of the Christian faith… WJ Hi WJ, What specifically are 'you' and 'your' accusational sounding word structure referring to? God bless Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Ed Why do you cut off my sentence that tells you the answer and then proceed to ask me what I am refering too? You say “that the Holy Spirit is the Father of Jesus”! So please spare us of posting another 150 words of your false assumptions! WJ

Hi WJ,

Explain how that denies the tenets of Christianity?

Ed J

[martian]

Talk about denying tenants of Christianity???
WJ sure calls the kettle black.
When I have questioned WJ about the fact that making Christ deity denies us the possibility of him being our perfect example, he has downgraded that importance or played word games with “tempted by evil.” (proven to be nonsense)
His doctrine is a lie and as long as he continues to align himself with that doctrine he will be supplying aid to the Father of Lies.

[JustAskin]

It now appears a good time to revisit an old question to WJ:

WJ, as what did Jesus die: God or Man?

Last time you claimed to be too busy to answer but now I see you can post humungus amounts to others.

I thought my question was very simple and the answer also and equally simple.

Please do not deny me an answer this time.

Oh, and a question I remember you answered me concerning 'Fear of Jesus', 'Fear of God'…

Only the Wicked fear Jesus. Note in the verses you quote Who us Fwaring.
Yet, concerning God, ALL are to fear Him.

Requote your verses and show where the Good are to fear Jesus!

[JustAskin]

WJ and TT, continually say that the Jews think that Jesus claimed to be God but nothing in their quoting says so. It is well known that the Jews believed in ONE GOD and ONE FATHER, who is that ONE GOD (Malachi 2:10)

How then, when Jesus says he is the son of [that] God, as we all are 'Son's of [that] God, if we follow in his ways oand obey His commands, that the Jews are then supposed to have claimed that He was God, Himself.
Even saying they believed He was 'equal' to God by virtue of being His son, then those also, will be equal to God (Be God, himself, by trinitarian thinking), those who attain the mercy of God through his Christ.

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 31 2010,22:25)

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 01 2010,08:48) Ed wrote: Notice how that verse uses the word AND instead of OR, because what 'you' say can “Change”! Circular! Because the same word is to you! Matt.12:37: For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned. WJ

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 31 2010,22:25)

Hi WJ, Your use of the “Edit” button (regarding Posts to me) is PROOF of what I say!

Ed

And your continued accusations and lies about something you know nothing about is proof that you are here to only accuse, and will bring condemnation on you according to Jesus own words.

I use the edit button almost in all my post, and most of the time it is because of spelling or grammar!

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 21 2009,16:31)

If you believe that scriptures are corrupted or were added, then your argument is circular for it could be said that the Arians added scriptures also to discredit the Trinity! You lose all crediblity in claiming any scripture to be true because you believe they are corrupt. It is odd that people like yourself would argue a doctrine from a book that they believe is corrupt. LOL WJ

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 31 2010,22:25)

Hi WJ, You present a false argument, WJ. Just because your beliefs have serious flaws in them does NOT mean we cannot learn from you? God bless

No I don't commit a false argument because the scriptures themselves claim to be the inspired word of God. Mens opinions may or may not be inspired!

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 31 2010,22:25)

See WJ, you can learn from me! You now understand that 'Athiest logic' is 'wrong'! God bless Ed J

I am not saying I cannot learn from you, I just choose to put distance between your teachings and myself because of the basic tenets of the Faith which we disagree on!

WJ

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 31 2010,22:26)

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 01 2010,08:43) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 31 2010,16:17) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 01 2010,03:34) ED I said you deny the very basic tenets of the Christian faith… WJ Hi WJ, What specifically are 'you' and 'your' accusational sounding word structure referring to? God bless Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Ed Why do you cut off my sentence that tells you the answer and then proceed to ask me what I am refering too? You say “that the Holy Spirit is the Father of Jesus”! So please spare us of posting another 150 words of your false assumptions! WJ Hi WJ, Explain how that denies the tenets of Christianity? Ed J

ED

Already been there and done that. Not interested!

WJ

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (martian @ April 02 2010,08:33)

Talk about denying tenants of Christianity??? WJ sure calls the kettle black. When I have questioned WJ about the fact that making Christ deity denies us the possibility of him being our perfect example, he has downgraded that importance or played word games with “tempted by evil.” (proven to  be nonsense) His doctrine is a lie and as long as he continues to align himself with that doctrine he will be supplying aid to the Father of Lies.

There was no evil in Jesus, therfore it was impossible for him to be temted to do evil!

The evil Temptation were coming from satan.

Temtation also means “To Try or Test”.

Jesus said satan comes and finds nothing in him.

Not so with every other man that was conceived in sin.

What is a lie about what I just said?

So your continued effort to make Jesus like every other sinner is futile and lies!

Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for “God cannot be tempted WITH EVIL“, neither tempteth he any man: 'But every man is tempted, WHEN HE IS DRAWN AWAY OF HIS OWN LUST, AND ENTICED“. James 1:12, 13

God cannot be tempted to do evil, but God can be tempted.

God has no lust.

Jesus had no lust therefore Jesus could not be tempted to do evil.

WJ

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (JustAskin @ April 02 2010,09:31)

It now appears a good time to revisit an old question to WJ: WJ, as what did Jesus die: God or Man? Last time you claimed to be too busy to answer but now I see you can post humungus amounts to others.

JA

Jesus refers to his death as being like Jonah's, who was in the belly of a fish for 3 days a 3 nights. The belly of the fish is referred to as being Jonahs hell.

Jonah was alive in the fish’s belly. Jesus was alive in the heart of the earth for three days and three nights.

The seeming contradiction that Anti-Trinitarians live with is their own unscriptural view of what death is. Death is the separation of the Spirit/soul of man from the body which is the temple that he lives in.

Jesus tells us this in the parable of Lazarus and the rich man.

The rich man though he was dead in the flesh was alive in hell. Lazarus though he was dead in the flesh was in the Fathers bosom.

Jesus who is the “Word” the “eternal life” that was with the Father is a Spirit being like the Father. The eternal Spirit, Jesus left his body and went to hell and then raised himself from the dead.

This is what the scriptures mean when they say “he conquered hell and death”.

Now I have not given you the scriptures, but there are scriptures that prove what I say.

If you need more detail then bring it up another thread for this is not the appropriate thread.

but it has now been revealed through the appearing of “our Savior, Christ Jesus, who has destroyed death” and has brought life and immortality to light through the gospel. 2 Tim 1:10

How did Jesus destroy death if death means you cease to exist?

WJ

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (JustAskin @ April 02 2010,09:49)

WJ and TT, continually say that the Jews think that Jesus claimed to be God but nothing in their quoting says so. It is well known that the Jews believed in ONE GOD and ONE FATHER, who is that ONE GOD (Malachi 2:10) How then, when Jesus says he is the son of [that] God, as we all are 'Son's of [that] God, if we follow in his ways oand obey His commands, that the Jews are then supposed to have claimed that He was God, Himself. Even saying they believed He was 'equal' to God by virtue of being His son, then those also, will be equal to God (Be God, himself, by trinitarian thinking), those who attain the mercy of God through his Christ.

JA

These are the Apostle Johns own words that you disagree with.

For this reason the Jews tried all the harder to kill him; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, “but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God“. John 5:18

Johns understanding of a Jew calling God his own personal Father was making themselves equal to God.

If it was common for men to do this then what is so special about Peters revelation that Jesus is the “Son of God” and the devils that cry it out and Jesus commanding them not to tell anyone?

The Jews of their day understood more about what Jesus was claiming than you do!

WJ

[terraricca]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 03 2010,04:10)

Quote (JustAskin @ April 02 2010,09:49) WJ and TT, continually say that the Jews think that Jesus claimed to be God but nothing in their quoting says so. It is well known that the Jews believed in ONE GOD and ONE FATHER, who is that ONE GOD (Malachi 2:10) How then, when Jesus says he is the son of [that] God, as we all are 'Son's of [that] God, if we follow in his ways oand obey His commands, that the Jews are then supposed to have claimed that He was God, Himself. Even saying they believed He was 'equal' to God by virtue of being His son, then those also, will be equal to God (Be God, himself, by trinitarian thinking), those who attain the mercy of God through his Christ. JA These are the Apostle Johns own words that you disagree with. For this reason the Jews tried all the harder to kill him; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, “but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God“. John 5:18 Johns understanding of a Jew calling God his own personal Father was making themselves equal to God. If it was common for men to do this then what is so special about Peters revelation that Jesus is the “Son of God” and the devils that cry it out and Jesus commanding them not to tell anyone? The Jews of their day understood more about what Jesus was claiming than you do! WJ

WJ

the apostles mainly reporting the views of those so called scholars of the times.this does not represent the truth of God.

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (terraricca @ April 02 2010,12:16)

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 03 2010,04:10) Quote (JustAskin @ April 02 2010,09:49) WJ and TT, continually say that the Jews think that Jesus claimed to be God but nothing in their quoting says so. It is well known that the Jews believed in ONE GOD and ONE FATHER, who is that ONE GOD (Malachi 2:10) How then, when Jesus says he is the son of [that] God, as we all are 'Son's of [that] God, if we follow in his ways oand obey His commands, that the Jews are then supposed to have claimed that He was God, Himself. Even saying they believed He was 'equal' to God by virtue of being His son, then those also, will be equal to God (Be God, himself, by trinitarian thinking), those who attain the mercy of God through his Christ. JA These are the Apostle Johns own words that you disagree with. For this reason the Jews tried all the harder to kill him; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, “but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God“. John 5:18 Johns understanding of a Jew calling God his own personal Father was making themselves equal to God. If it was common for men to do this then what is so special about Peters revelation that Jesus is the “Son of God” and the devils that cry it out and Jesus commanding them not to tell anyone? The Jews of their day understood more about what Jesus was claiming than you do! WJ WJ the apostles mainly reporting the views of those so called scholars of the times.this does not represent the truth of God.

T

Those are Johns own words!

WJ

[JustAskin]

WJ,
Concerning the errored views of the Jews as expounded by John, wgat was Jesus' response. I see you stop short of mentioning that.

Concerning whether Jesus died as God or Man, you still, again, do not answer, but instead talk around the subject.

I ask yet again: As what did Jesus die, God or Man?

[Ed J]

Quote (JustAskin @ April 03 2010,01:31)

It now appears a good time to revisit an old question to WJ: WJ, as what did Jesus die: God or Man? Last time you claimed to be too busy to answer but now I see you can post humungus amounts to others. I thought my question was very simple and the answer also and  equally simple. Please do not deny me an answer this time.

Hi JustAskin,

I know this question is geared for WJ: But “both” is the REAL answer and it's based solely on “Bible Truth“=117 ! (Matt.1:18,1:20 / Luke 1″35)

                              Luke 10:30-37

The answer is this: Jesus is the man that went down from (Heavenly)Jerusalem(The City of Peace) to
Jericho(Joshua 6:1) and fell among theives that left him 1/2 dead, the GOD(HolySpirit) part COULD NOT DIE!

                             “YHVH is GOD”=117
PSALM 117 is [The Bible's Center Chapter], the [smallest chapter] of the [LARGEST BOOK]!

Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17)
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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