Born of water.

[Wakeup]

Quote (2besee @ Jan. 11 2013,20:47)

T, it does not say that. It says “If the dead will not be raised, what point is there in people being baptized for those who are dead? Why do it unless the dead will someday rise again?” if there is no resurrection, why then are people being baptized FOR the dead (already dead without having the chance to be water baptized). This is my understanding. Yet so many here are saying that water baptism has nothing to do with anything – it only “makes you wet”. Is that truth? Or is scripture truth?   Do each and every one of you believe that you are without sin and so do not “need” to be baptized in water? Well, I believe the scriptures.

2Besee.

Paul is not saying that it is necessary to babtise the dead,but they are obviously doing it.
We dont babtise for the dead as far as I know.

Babtism with water does not cleans away sin.
That would be nice;sin first, and then have a good shower, or a swim.

Was Judas iscariot babtised. Y/N?

If yes then what good was it for him?
I know that he was not babtised with the Holy spirit.

Many in the early church,have fallen away also after being babtised.Titus1:10.

Many babtised christians will be cast away by Christ when he will says; go away I dont know you.

wakeup.

[2besee]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 12 2013,01:34)

Babtism with water does not cleans away sin.

Hi Wakeup.
Acts 2:38,
'Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins.'

[Ed J]

Quote (2besee @ Jan. 11 2013,22:53)

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 11 2013,23:54) Quote (2besee @ Jan. 11 2013,20:09) What do you make of that Hi 2Besee, 1 Cor 15:29 Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead? Do you think Jesus is talking about water baptism? Matt 10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven. People that are baptized are making public their belief of Jesus atoning sacrifice. We are all asked to make our belief in Jesus atoning sacrifice public. “For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and  (water baptism) with the mouthconfession is made  unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.” (Romans 10:10-11) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Hi Ed, I disagree. Being baptized in water is not necessarily “making public ones belief….” because many people have been baptized even alone (The main man of the Anabaptists baptized himself if I remember correctly (don't quote me on that)).

Hi 2Besee,

Are you saying you disagree with… “with the mouth confession is made unto salvation” ?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 11 2013,23:57)

Quote (2besee @ Jan. 11 2013,22:53) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 11 2013,23:54) Quote (2besee @ Jan. 11 2013,20:09) What do you make of that Hi 2Besee, 1 Cor 15:29 Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead? Do you think Jesus is talking about water baptism? Matt 10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven. People that are baptized are making public their belief of Jesus atoning sacrifice. We are all asked to make our belief in Jesus atoning sacrifice public. “For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and  (water baptism) with the mouthconfession is made  unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.” (Romans 10:10-11) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Hi Ed, I disagree. Being baptized in water is not necessarily “making public ones belief….” because many people have been baptized even alone (The main man of the Anabaptists baptized himself if I remember correctly (don't quote me on that)). Hi 2Besee, Are you saying you disagree with…  “with the mouth confession is made unto salvation”  ? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

EdJ.

Jesus says; when you pray, go in your closet and close the door.
And there you can confess with your mouth what ever you want to confess.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 12 2013,00:03)

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 11 2013,23:57) “For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and  (water baptism) with the mouthconfession is made  unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.” (Romans 10:10-11) God bless Ed J EdJ. Jesus says; when you pray, go in your closet and close the door. And there you can confess with your mouth what ever you want to confess. wakeup.

Hi Wakeup,

Romans 10:10-11 is not talking about confessing sins here, but confessing “Christ”.

Matt 10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men,
him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Wakeup]

Quote (2besee @ Jan. 11 2013,23:42)

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 12 2013,01:34) Babtism with water does not cleans away sin. Hi Wakeup. Acts 2:38, 'Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins.'

2Besee.

True,be babtised,but dont think that it is a guarantee that you are saved.
The babtism of the Holy spirit is a guarantee.
Because Jesus knows whom he babtise.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 12 2013,00:50)

Quote (2besee @ Jan. 11 2013,23:42) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 12 2013,01:34) Babtism with water does not cleans away sin. Hi Wakeup. Acts 2:38, 'Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins.' 2Besee. True,be babtised,but dont think that it is a guarantee that you are saved. The babtism of the Holy spirit is a guarantee. Because Jesus knows whom he babtise. wakeup.

Hi Wakeup,

The baptism with God's HolySpirit is our “New birth”, do you agree?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 12 2013,00:25)

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 12 2013,00:03) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 11 2013,23:57) “For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and  (water baptism) with the mouthconfession is made  unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.” (Romans 10:10-11) God bless Ed J EdJ. Jesus says; when you pray, go in your closet and close the door. And there you can confess with your mouth what ever you want to confess. wakeup. Hi Wakeup, Romans 10:10-11 is not talking about confessing sins here, but confessing “Christ”. Matt 10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

EdJ.

Confessing Christ before men is a must do.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 12 2013,01:30)

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 12 2013,00:25) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 12 2013,00:03) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 11 2013,23:57) “For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and  (water baptism) with the mouthconfession is made  unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.” (Romans 10:10-11) God bless Ed J EdJ. Jesus says; when you pray, go in your closet and close the door. And there you can confess with your mouth what ever you want to confess. wakeup. Hi Wakeup, Romans 10:10-11 is not talking about confessing sins here, but confessing “Christ”. Matt 10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EdJ. Confessing Christ before men is a must do. wakeup.

Excellent, we agree again! Yea!!!

[Ed J]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 12 2013,01:05)

Hi Wakeup, The baptism with God's HolySpirit is our “New birth”, do you agree? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Wakeup?

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 12 2013,02:05)

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 12 2013,01:30) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 12 2013,00:25) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 12 2013,00:03) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 11 2013,23:57) “For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and  (water baptism) with the mouthconfession is made  unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.” (Romans 10:10-11) God bless Ed J EdJ. Jesus says; when you pray, go in your closet and close the door. And there you can confess with your mouth what ever you want to confess. wakeup. Hi Wakeup, Romans 10:10-11 is not talking about confessing sins here, but confessing “Christ”. Matt 10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EdJ. Confessing Christ before men is a must do. wakeup. Excellent, we agree again!  Yea!!!

EDJ.

We are getting there slowly.2mls an hour.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 12 2013,02:10)

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 12 2013,02:05) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 12 2013,01:30) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 12 2013,00:25) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 12 2013,00:03) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 11 2013,23:57) “For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and  (water baptism) with the mouthconfession is made  unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.” (Romans 10:10-11) God bless Ed J EdJ. Jesus says; when you pray, go in your closet and close the door. And there you can confess with your mouth what ever you want to confess. wakeup. Hi Wakeup, Romans 10:10-11 is not talking about confessing sins here, but confessing “Christ”. Matt 10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EdJ. Confessing Christ before men is a must do. wakeup. Excellent, we agree again!  Yea!!! EDJ. We are getting there slowly.2mls an hour. wakeup.

Hi Wakeup,

Don't YOU have to wait until you die?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 12 2013,02:24)

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 12 2013,02:10) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 12 2013,02:05) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 12 2013,01:30) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 12 2013,00:25) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 12 2013,00:03) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 11 2013,23:57) “For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and  (water baptism) with the mouthconfession is made  unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.” (Romans 10:10-11) God bless Ed J EdJ. Jesus says; when you pray, go in your closet and close the door. And there you can confess with your mouth what ever you want to confess. wakeup. Hi Wakeup, Romans 10:10-11 is not talking about confessing sins here, but confessing “Christ”. Matt 10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EdJ. Confessing Christ before men is a must do. wakeup. Excellent, we agree again!  Yea!!! EDJ. We are getting there slowly.2mls an hour. wakeup. Hi Wakeup, Don't YOU have to wait until you die? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

EDJ.

I mean you and me.
We are slowly getting there.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Hi Wakeup,

You mean in reaching an agreement?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 12 2013,05:28)

Hi Wakeup, You mean in reaching an agreement? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

EDj.

Yes naughty brother.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 12 2013,06:06)

EDj. naughty brother. wakeup.

Hi Wakeup,

Why do you say that?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[terraricca]

Quote (2besee @ Jan. 11 2013,15:47)

T, it does not say that. It says “If the dead will not be raised, what point is there in people being baptized for those who are dead? Why do it unless the dead will someday rise again?” if there is no resurrection, why then are people being baptized FOR the dead (already dead without having the chance to be water baptized). This is my understanding. Yet so many here are saying that water baptism has nothing to do with anything – it only “makes you wet”. Is that truth? Or is scripture truth?   Do each and every one of you believe that you are without sin and so do not “need” to be baptized in water? Well, I believe the scriptures.

2bee

you will in time see it ,this is what the spirit does ,

[terraricca]

Quote (2besee @ Jan. 11 2013,18:42)

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 12 2013,01:34) Babtism with water does not cleans away sin. Hi Wakeup. Acts 2:38, 'Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins.'

2bee

how many Jews were at that event

[2besee]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 12 2013,01:57)

Quote (2besee @ Jan. 11 2013,22:53) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 11 2013,23:54) Quote (2besee @ Jan. 11 2013,20:09) What do you make of that Hi 2Besee, 1 Cor 15:29 Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead? Do you think Jesus is talking about water baptism? Matt 10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven. People that are baptized are making public their belief of Jesus atoning sacrifice. We are all asked to make our belief in Jesus atoning sacrifice public. “For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and  (water baptism) with the mouthconfession is made  unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.” (Romans 10:10-11) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Hi Ed, I disagree. Being baptized in water is not necessarily “making public ones belief….” because many people have been baptized even alone (The main man of the Anabaptists baptized himself if I remember correctly (don't quote me on that)). Hi 2Besee, Are you saying you disagree with…  “with the mouth confession is made unto salvation”  ? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

No, I was talking about Baptism in water.
Confession with the 'mouth' is something else.

Does every single person that you know “know” that you are a follower of Jesus? If so, then that is (part of) “confession with the mouth” and you also have to be a good 'role model' to begin with.

[2besee]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 12 2013,02:50)

Quote (2besee @ Jan. 11 2013,23:42) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 12 2013,01:34) Babtism with water does not cleans away sin. Hi Wakeup. Acts 2:38, 'Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins.' 2Besee. True,be babtised,but dont think that it is a guarantee that you are saved. The babtism of the Holy spirit is a guarantee. Because Jesus knows whom he babtise. wakeup.

Baptism with the Holy Spirit is not a guarantee of salvation according to the scriptures. Hebrews 6:4 says:

“It is impossible, in the case of those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, and have shared in the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 and then have fallen away, to restore them again to repentance, since they are crucifying once again the Son of God to their own harm and holding him up to contempt. 7 For land that has drunk the rain that often falls on it, and produces a crop useful to those for whose sake it is cultivated, receives a blessing from God. 8 But if it bears thorns and thistles, it is worthless and near to being cursed, and its end is to be burned.”

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