Born and begotten

[NickHassan]

Hi ED,
God IS everything?
Scripture?

[NickHassan]

Hi ED,
the Word is OF God.

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Ed J @ July 05 2010,09:28)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 05 2010,08:55) So if God spoke 20 words to the Isrealites, are each one of them a separate Holy Spirit? mike Hi Mike, No; If God is in thousands and thousands of people and more are added, they are NOT going to get a smaller piece of God. Nor does adding words make more of God, He is everything. God bless Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Hi Ed,

You believe the Word of God is the Holy Spirit of God. So if there are words of God, are there Holy Spirits of God?

mike

[mikeboll64]

Quote (terraricca @ July 05 2010,11:35)

mike God is not in people,well i do not believe it ,but if you can show me scriptures i be glad to look at them Pierre

Hi T,

I think you are applying something Ed said to me. I don't believe God is in people, nor do I believe the Kingdom of God is in people. God is in heaven with His Son my Lord.

mike

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
Eph 3.19
Phil 2.13
God is in his sons-as SPIRIT

[terraricca]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 05 2010,14:07)

Quote (terraricca @ July 05 2010,11:35) mike God is not in people,well i do not believe it ,but if you can show me scriptures i be glad to look at them Pierre Hi T, I think you are applying something Ed said to me.  I don't believe God is in people, nor do I believe the Kingdom of God is in people.  God is in heaven with His Son my Lord. mike

mike

i believe that it is the amount of truth you live by that make you part of Gods and Christ kingdom

i do believe that God and Christ can be with you.bless you,protect you,and teach you.

Pierre

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 05 2010,14:40)

Hi MB, Eph 3.19 Phil 2.13 God is in his sons-as SPIRIT

Hi Nick,

To me those 2 scriptures say that God can fill you with feelings, words, info, or visions THROUGH His Holy Spirit. I don't understand them (or any scripture) to say that the God who dwells in heaven actually lives as a spirit entity inside any one person. IMO

mike

[Oxy]

Here are some examples of the Holy Spirit being “received”.

This is in line with my personal experience. After I was born again I received the Holy Spirit and received the gift of tongues. Shortly after that I began prophesying as the Spirit led. He (the Holy Spirit) has been responsible for a lot of changes in my life and supernatural experiences, such as healings, word of knowledge etc.

Act 2:33 Therefore being exalted to the right of God, and having received from the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, He has poured out this which you now see and hear.

Act 8:17 Then they laid their hands on them, and they received the Holy Spirit.

Act 19:2 he said to them, Have you received the Holy Spirit since you believed? And they said to him, We did not so much as hear whether the Holy Spirit is.
Act 19:3 And he said to them, Then to what were you baptized? And they said, To John's baptism.
Act 19:4 And Paul said, John truly baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying to the people that they should believe into Him coming after him, that is, into Jesus Christ.
Act 19:5 And hearing, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
Act 19:6 And as Paul laid his hands on them, the Holy Spirit came on them, and they spoke with tongues and prophesied.

1Co 2:12 But we have not received the spirit of the world, but the Spirit from God, so that we might know the things that are freely given to us by God.

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
Why not?
If scripture says it is true it is.

[terraricca]

Quote (Oxy @ July 05 2010,17:14)

Here are some examples of the Holy Spirit being “received”. This is in line with my personal experience.  After I was born again I received the Holy Spirit and received the gift of tongues.  Shortly after that I began prophesying as the Spirit led.  He (the Holy Spirit) has been responsible for a lot of changes in my life and supernatural experiences, such as healings, word of knowledge etc. Act 2:33  Therefore being exalted to the right of God, and having received from the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, He has poured out this which you now see and hear. Act 8:17  Then they laid their hands on them, and they received the Holy Spirit. Act 19:2  he said to them, Have you received the Holy Spirit since you believed? And they said to him, We did not so much as hear whether the Holy Spirit is. Act 19:3  And he said to them, Then to what were you baptized? And they said, To John's baptism. Act 19:4  And Paul said, John truly baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying to the people that they should believe into Him coming after him, that is, into Jesus Christ. Act 19:5  And hearing, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. Act 19:6  And as Paul laid his hands on them, the Holy Spirit came on them, and they spoke with tongues and prophesied.   1Co 2:12  But we have not received the spirit of the world, but the Spirit from God, so that we might know the things that are freely given to us by God.

oxy

this is only your personal experience and so becomes a blessing receive from God for your own conviction,i do not know if any other person could witness your receiving the holy spirit like in Christ at the Jordan river,
if not then this will remain between you and your God,

if you have healing power,this is also restricted to the ones involved,and there God.
what did prophesying about??
many are fakers.

Pierre

[GeneBalthrop]

Mike……….God is Spirit, there is only one way he can live in us and that is to Cohabit (IN) us. God the Father was literally (IN) Jesus just as Jesus said he was. The problem here people do no understand what spirit really is. It is not a being it is what is (IN) a being, His intellect. God lives (IN) his creation vicariously. He was truly (IN) Jesus, That is why Thomas once He realized that said “My Lord (AND) My God. Jesus plainly said God was (IN) Him and He was (IN) GOD, The only that could possibly be is through Spirit and is expressed through Words, and Word are the expression of Intellects. That is what spirit is and that is what life is, they are one and the same, life itself is spirit, and word express that spirit or life (IN) them.

Jesus said he spoke about the Father in Proverbs (fictitious language) but a time would come when he will plainly show them the Father. God is pure and completely spirit, he is what life is and he dwells (in) his creation. Most see him in a metaphysical sense But God have No Physical existences , When Jesus was speaking of the FATHER he used metaphysical language but that was a Proverbial expression of the Father not a real or literial one. There can exist (NO) life in any form without GOD the Father. IMO

peace and love to you and yours………………………..gene

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 05 2010,20:51)

Hi MB, Why not? If scripture says it is true it is.

Hi Nick, T and Gene,

I think the word “spirit” gets taken too literally sometimes.  When Paul says we should have the spirit of Christ in Heb 1, I equate that to “we should have the same attitude as Christ” in that he was righteous, humble, helped others the best he could, and was willing to die to the glory of his God, etc.  Like when it is said an athlete has a “fighting spirit”.  It doesn't mean he has an actual spirit person inside him with boxing gloves on.

God resides in heaven with His Son.  They can “send” us the helper of the Holy Spirit to comfort or guide us or inform us about certain things.

But how can it be said that God lives inside of us as a spirit entity when we are sinners?  We can't even approach our God in heaven without going through the “buffer” of Jesus Christ.

When it is said that God and Christ “dwell in us”, I don't take that literally.  I take that to mean that we are striving to live our lives according to what they teach.  Like when someone's dad dies and people say, “He will live on in his son”, it doesn't mean the father is still a living entity who dwells inside his son.  It means that his “spirit” will live on by the son practicing the good things he taught and stood for throughout his life.  If someone told me, “I can see that God lives in you”, I would take that to mean that they can see by my fruits that I practice what God and His Son preached. Not that I'm somehow radiating like Moses' face after he met with God – as if the being of God had somehow materialized inside my human body.  IMO

mike

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
If you keep adding to what scripture teaches, you will never gain knowledge of truth.

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 06 2010,07:04)

Hi MB, If you keep adding to what scripture teaches, you will never gain knowledge of truth.

Hi Nick,

Can you show me from my post what I SPECIFICALLY added?

mike

[Ed J]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 06 2010,00:52)

Mike……….God is Spirit, there is only one way he can live in us and that is to Cohabit (IN) us. God the Father was literally (IN) Jesus just as Jesus said he was.   The problem here people do no understand what spirit really is. It is not a being it is what is (IN) a being, His intellect. God lives (IN) his creation vicariously.  He was truly (IN) Jesus, That is why Thomas once He realized that said “My Lord (AND) My God. Jesus plainly said God was (IN) Him and He was (IN) GOD, The only that could possibly be is through Spirit and is expressed through Words, and Word are the expression of Intellects. That is what spirit is and that is what life is, they are one and the same, life itself is spirit, and word express that spirit or life (IN) them. Jesus said he spoke about the Father in Proverbs (fictitious language) but a time would come when he will plainly show them the Father. God is pure and completely spirit, he is what life is and he dwells (in) his creation. Most see him in a metaphysical sense But God have No Physical existences ,  When Jesus was speaking of the FATHER he used metaphysical language but that was a Proverbial expression of the Father not a real or literial one. There can exist (NO) life in any form without GOD the Father. IMO peace and love to you and yours………………………..gene

Hi Gene,

Excellent Post; Gene!

When are the others going to wake up? (Eph.5:14)

Your Brother in Christ, Jesus!
Ed J (Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:14)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
Your own THOUGHTS.
Followed by your ASSUMPTIONS.
Let scripture speak and prove truth in itself

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 06 2010,10:20)

Hi MB, Your own THOUGHTS. Followed by your ASSUMPTIONS. Let scripture speak and prove truth in itself

SPECIFICALLY which thought, Nick? And show me scripturally how that thought is wrong or pipe down.

mike

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
Read your own post.

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
Thoughts and opinions are not relevant until they are found reflected in scripture……… several times.[2Cor13.1]

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 06 2010,12:42)

Hi MB, Thoughts and opinions are not relevant until they are found reflected in scripture……… several times.[2Cor13.1]

SPECIFICALLY which thought, Nick? And show me scripturally how that thought is wrong or pipe down.

mike

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