Born again is a great topic.

[NickHassan]

Hi WU,
That would be good

[Wakeup]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 06 2014,11:56)

Hi WU, That would be good

Nick.

All spoken according to scripture is good.
The Holy Word of God was transformed into flesh.
How can there ever be a time that He is without the HS?
It is He who sends the HS to the apostles.
He said: I will send the comforter to you.
And He will glorify me.

John 16:13 Howbeit when he, **the Spirit of truth**, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: ***and he will shew you things to come***.

John 16:14 ***He shall glorify me***:
***for he shall receive of mine***, and shall shew it unto you.

John 16:15 All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, ***that he shall take of mine***, and shall shew it unto you.

The HS will glorify Jesus.
How can you say that He only had the HS after His baptism?

wakeup.

[NickHassan]

Hi WU,
These things were said by the Holy anointed one after the Jordan
God testified at the Jordan.

There is no connection between what you said and what scripture reveals.
Opinion carries no weight

The anointed Words are what the Holy Spirit reminds us of.

[Wakeup]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 06 2014,14:54)

Hi WU, These things were said by the Holy anointed one after the Jordan God testified at the Jordan. There is no connection between what you said and what scripture reveals. Opinion carries no weight The anointed Words are what the Holy Spirit reminds us of.

Nick.

Dont you go by the scriptures?
You are ignoring what had been said in scripture.
Jesus has been given charge over the HS.
He will send the HS; The HS wil glorify Jesus.

Jordan was only to follow the law,tradition.
The dove was a sign to John that Jesus IS the Messiah promised. The concrete evidence;proof for the eyes.
seeing is believing;not that John didn't know;He knew.
But to be written down,what he saw. For us.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ April 05 2014,21:52)

Quote (Ed J @ April 05 2014,21:43) Quote (Wakeup @ April 05 2014,21:38) Quote (Ed J @ April 05 2014,21:22) Do you SEE the Kingdom of God?   y/n? EdJ. Are you playing games? If I have the picture of the kingdom in my head it is obvious that I see the kingdom.Which you dont. I know you dont,by your comments. Now you are still going to ask me for a y/n. wakeup. Hi Wakeup, so, your answer is “yes” then correct? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EdJ. Well of course, or I wont be teaching the kingdom would I? wakeup.

Hi Wakeup,

You say you can “see the Kingdom of God” but you also say that you are not “Born Again”?? 

This teaching of yours (and I guess Mike also) is in stark contradiction to Jesus words in John 3:3,
will you please try to explain why YOU are right and Jesus is (according to you) wrong?

“Verily, verily, I say unto thee,
EXCEPT A MAN BE BORN AGAIN,
he cannot see the kingdom of God.”  (John 3:3)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[NickHassan]

Hi WU,
You say
“Jesus has been given charge over the HS.”

?Huh.
In charge of??
Of course he sends HIS Spirit-the SPIRIT OF CHRIST

“Jordan was only to follow the law,tradition.”

HUH?
Do you not even believe the testimony of God??

“The dove was a sign to John that Jesus IS the Messiah promised. The concrete evidence;proof for the eyes.
seeing is believing;not that John didn't know;He knew.
But to be written down,what he saw. For us.”
That is all “

Huh- for you perhaps
Nothing actually happened?

Scripture said it did but as usual your dogmas rule.

How long have you spread these false ideas?

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ April 06 2014,15:28)

Quote (Wakeup @ April 05 2014,21:52) Quote (Ed J @ April 05 2014,21:43) Quote (Wakeup @ April 05 2014,21:38) Quote (Ed J @ April 05 2014,21:22) Do you SEE the Kingdom of God?   y/n? EdJ. Are you playing games? If I have the picture of the kingdom in my head it is obvious that I see the kingdom.Which you dont. I know you dont,by your comments. Now you are still going to ask me for a y/n. wakeup. Hi Wakeup, so, your answer is “yes” then correct? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EdJ. Well of course, or I wont be teaching the kingdom would I? wakeup. Hi Wakeup, You say you can “see the Kingdom of God” but you also say that you are not “Born Again”??  This teaching of yours (and I guess Mike also) is in stark contradiction to Jesus words in John 3:3, will you please try to explain why YOU are right and Jesus is (according to you) wrong? “Verily, verily, I say unto thee, EXCEPT A MAN BE BORN AGAIN, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”  (John 3:3) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

EdJ.

You thought you got me there dont you.
I can picture it in my mind,but can not see it with my eyes.
Do you understand my speech.
I can picture the crucifixion, but have not seen it with my eyes.I can picture Moses crossing the sea,but have nor seen it with my eyes.

You say you are born again; can you see the kingdom of God?

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ April 06 2014,15:58)

EdJ. can you see the kingdom of God? wakeup.

Hi Wakeup,

You bet! I see the Kingdom of God in Nick Hassan and in others!

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Hi Wakeup,

So “SEE” to you means understand rather than perceive?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Wakeup]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 06 2014,15:52)

Hi WU, You say “Jesus has been given charge over the HS.” ?Huh. In charge of?? Of course he sends HIS Spirit-the SPIRIT OF CHRIST “Jordan was only to follow the law,tradition.” HUH? Do you not even believe the testimony of God?? “The dove was a sign to John that Jesus IS the Messiah promised. The concrete evidence;proof for the eyes. seeing is believing;not that John didn't know;He knew. But to be written down,what he saw. For us.” That is all “ Huh- for you perhaps Nothing actually happened? Scripture said it did but as usual your dogmas rule. How long have you spread these false ideas?

Nick.

John 16:15 All things that the Father hath **are mine**: therefore said I, that ***he shall take of mine***, and shall shew it unto you.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ April 06 2014,15:58)

EdJ. You thought you got me there dont you. wakeup.

Hi Wakeup,

Yes, you are indeed caught! (see Eccl.19:12)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ April 06 2014,16:03)

Quote (Wakeup @ April 06 2014,15:58) EdJ. can you see the kingdom of God? wakeup. Hi Wakeup, You bet! I see the Kingdom of God in Nick Hassan and in others! God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

EdJ.

You are seeing people.
The kingdom has not yet been set up.
Thy kingdom come.You are seeing things Ed.
Nick is still seeking the kingdom to come.
He has not the full picture as yet.

He will be before you.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Spin

[Ed J]

Definition of “spin”

a particular bias, interpretation, or point of view, intended to create a favorable (or sometimes, unfavorable) impression when presented to the public.

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ April 06 2014,16:17)

Spin

EdJ.

You see all christians as the kingdom.
Yet many will be rejected.

Please explain.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ April 06 2014,16:22)

Quote (Ed J @ April 06 2014,16:17) Spin EdJ. You see all christians as the kingdom. Yet many will be rejected. Please explain. wakeup.

Hi Wakeup,

Explain what?  I cannot explain your spin??

Ask a specific question,
and I will certainly address it.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[journey42]

Quote (Ed J @ April 06 2014,16:03)

Quote (Wakeup @ April 06 2014,15:58) EdJ. can you see the kingdom of God? wakeup. Hi Wakeup, You bet! I see the Kingdom of God in Nick Hassan and in others! God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

1 Corinthians 3:21   Therefore let no man glory in men. For all things are yours.

[Ed J]

Quote (journey42 @ April 06 2014,17:40)

Quote (Ed J @ April 06 2014,16:03) Quote (Wakeup @ April 06 2014,15:58) EdJ. can you see the kingdom of God? wakeup. Hi Wakeup, You bet! I see the Kingdom of God in Nick Hassan and in others! God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org 1 Corinthians 3:21   Therefore let no man glory in men. For all things are yours.

“So that we ourselves glory in you in the churches of God for your patience
 and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that ye endure:”  (2 Thess 1:4)

[journey42]

Quote (Ed J @ April 06 2014,17:47)

“So that we ourselves glory in you in the churches of God for your patience  and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that ye endure:”  (2 Thess 1:4)

Ed

That letter was written to the church of the Thessalonians.  The truth was spreading out then.
There is a falling away now of the truth in the churches.
Their candlesticks are so dim now,
and the flame is just about to blow out.

What persecutions and tribulations have Nick and the others endured?

Do tell?
How do we glory in them if don't know what they've endured?
Not to put them down, but it's Christ that judges the inside.
Anyone can appear holy on the outside.

They may choose to take the mark of the beast yet, but let God forbid.

He that endures to the END will be saved.
I hope that they will refuse the mark,
then we can brag about them,
that they suffered for Christ's name.

[NickHassan]

Hi j42,
When did I become your enemy?

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