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Born again a great deception accepted by the many as truth.
*Born again* is preached for centuries as baptism in water.
This is far from the truth. The word water is interpreted as
water of baptism.This is not correct.
Concentrate on Jesus words in John 3.John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
BORN AGAIN, MEANING BORN FOR THE SECOND TIME.
BORN THE SECOND TIME IS BORN OF THE SPIRIT,AND WILL BE SPIRIT. NO SO CALLED BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN ARE SPIRIT EVER,UNTILL THE RESURRECTION.John 3:4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
NICODEMUS COULD NOT UNDERSTAND THAT A MAN CAN BE BORN TWICE.
John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
JESUS HERE WAS SPEAKING OF MOTHERS WATER,NOT THAT WATER OF BAPTISM;BECAUSE NEXT HE MENTIONED FLESH.
John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
BORN OF MOTHERS WATER IS FLESH.
BORN OF MOTHER ZION(SHE IS SPIRIT), IS SPIRIT.JESUS WAS BORN OF MOTHERS WATER THERFORE HE IS FLESH.
JESUS WAS NOT BORN AGAIN AFTER HIS BAPTISM.
WITHOUT BAPTISM OF WATER, HE STILL CAN ENTER INTO THE KINGDOM.WATER DOES NOT RESTRICT HIM FROM ENTERING THE KINGDOM.
HE WAS *BORN AGAIN* AT HIS RESURRECTION,AND HE ENTERED HEAVEN.FLESH HUMAN CAN ONLY ENTER THE KINGDOM AFTER BORN OF THE SPIRIT.(BORN AGAIN).
THE GOSPELS IS PREACHED TO HUMANS;NOT TO SPIRITS.Isaiah 66:8 Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day?
***or shall a nation be born at once**?
***for as soon as Zion travailed***,
***she brought forth her children***.AS YOU CAN SEE;MOTHER ZION WILL HAVE BIRTH PAINS BEFORE GIVING BIRTH TO ALL HER CHILDREN AT ONCE.
THIS WILL BE AT THE RESURRECTION.
MANY WILL BE BORN OF MOTHER ZION,SHE IS SPIRIT,
AND ALL BORN OF HER WILL BE SPIRIT.THIS IS THE TRUE *BORN AGAIN*. THIS IS WHEN ONE CAN ENTER INTO THE KINGDOM. THE KINGDOM IN HEAVEN AND ON EARTH.THEY HAVE INHERITED ALL THINGS.AND WILL RULE ON EARTH.
HER BIRTH PAINS IS THE TRIBULATION.
AFTER THE TRIBULATION, COMES THE RESURRECTION.
THE BIRTH OF ALL HER CHILDREN,AT ONCE.NOW YOU CAN SEE THE GREAT DECEPTION PREACHED.
THE FLOCK JUST FOLLOW;THEY DONT SEEK.Millions *so called* born again christians,will be cast into the lake of fire. How can this be possible?
For once born again one should stay born again.(saved).(secured).
One can not be unborn again.Water baptism is good, but it's just a symbol.
For the remission of sins.Jesus did not need remission of sins.
He has no sins.wakeup.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 30 2014,05:14) Hi WU,
You insist we believe your ideas?No we have a teacher and scripture is our guide.
Nick.There is no pressure.It is not compulsory.
You can disregard,that's fine with me.
I am not resposible for your soul,but only you are.wakeup.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 30 2014,11:11) Hi Wu,
Yes
There is much more to learn
Nick.Much, much more.
wakeup.
Hi WU,
You say
“John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.JESUS HERE WAS SPEAKING OF MOTHERS WATER,NOT THAT WATER OF BAPTISM;BECAUSE NEXT HE MENTIONED FLESH.
John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
BORN OF MOTHERS WATER IS FLESH.”
Born of flesh is flesh
Born of Spirit is Spirit.No need to add the contaminated waters of birth in here.
Scripture doesn'tNick.
Are you saying that a baby lived in contaminated water for nine months?
The word *AGAIN* in english;means twice;not three times.
No one will be born three times.
Jesus was not Born Again only after His baptism. WAS HE??
WAS JESUS BORN AGAIN ONLY AFTER HIS BAPTISM??Will you answer this question?
wakeup.
Hi WU,
You have not delivered many babies.
Jesus was born again at his baptismOnly you think there is yet another birth for those in Christ.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 03 2014,12:21) Hi WU,
You have not delivered many babies.
Jesus was born again at his baptismOnly you think there is yet another birth for those in Christ.
Nick.If you believe that jesus needs to be baptised to be washed
clean, and to repent. (born again.
Then you are speaking of another jesus.Maybe I and a few teach the true born again doctrine.
And can be backed up with scriptures.
The born again; the world teach, can be refuted with scriptures.wakeup.
hi WU,
He did so to fulfil all righteousness.Even if you too have never sinned you should follow his example
ALL HAVE SINNED
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 03 2014,12:34) hi WU,
He did so to fulfil all righteousness.Even if you too have never sinned you should follow his example
ALL HAVE SINNED
Nick.Was Jesus born again at his baptism?
If so; did He become a new man?
If so; than He did not have to be resurrected;born out of mother zion.
Because he is already born again.And the same with all born again christians.
They have all made it: for they are born again.
And they are spirit.wakeup.
Hi WU,
KJV
Is 66
Before she travailed, she brought forth; before her pain came, she was delivered of a man child.8 Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? or shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children.
NASB
“Before she travailed, she brought forth;
Before her pain came, she gave birth to a boy.8
“Who has heard such a thing? Who has seen such things?
Can a land be [d]born in one day?
Can a nation be brought forth all at once?
As soon as Zion travailed, she also brought forth her sons.Which version did you use?
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 03 2014,12:48) Hi WU,
KJV
Is 66
Before she travailed, she brought forth; before her pain came, she was delivered of a man child.8 Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? or shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children.
NASB
“Before she travailed, she brought forth;
Before her pain came, she gave birth to a boy.8
“Who has heard such a thing? Who has seen such things?
Can a land be [d]born in one day?
Can a nation be brought forth all at once?
As soon as Zion travailed, she also brought forth her sons.Which version did you use?
Nick.Rev.12 is about Jesus born out of Mother Zion.HE WAS BORN BY THE WILL OF GOD.
and then He was taken up to God.(His resurrection).Isaiah 66:7 Before she travailed, she brought forth; before her pain came, she was delivered of a man child.
THIS IS THE RESURRECTION OF THE SON OF GOD.
HIS BORN AGAIN.8 Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? or shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children.
THIS IS THE RESURRECTION OF HER CHILDREN.
(BORN AGAIN).
GOD'S WOMAN IS ZION.
ZION IS GOD'S DOCTRINE;TEACHINGS.wakeup.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 03 2014,13:32) Hi WU,
And why do you not think it is the spiritual birth of the son of God and his brothers?
Nick.Why?
Because SHE gave birth to all her children,
at once.
A nation will be born at once.
This nation will be the jews in israel.All brought back to life
at once.
And the saints will be her spiritual children.
They will be the ones in charge;under Christ.So,at the coming;two things will happen.
1.The reviving of the jews,(flesh).
2.The resurrection of the saints.The saints will inherit heaven
and earth.(they are spirit).
The jews will have to wait to the second resurrection;
then they also will inherit heaven and earth.wakeup.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 03 2014,13:50) Hi WU,
Yes the Spirit of Christ was born into Jesus and resided in his loins for all his brothers
Nick.Yes: Jesus was born out of Gods teachings/doctrine.
The word of God is God's doctrine.God's Word.
The Holy bible is the word of God;therefore God's doctrine.
If we are in the doctrine we are in Christ.In the beginning was the Word,and the Word was with God and the Word was made flesh.
wakeup.
Hi WU,
Adherence to the teachings must include obedience to them
Lk6
“Why do you call Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ and do not do what I say?
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