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Quote (Stu @ June 24 2011,21:49) Tiles are cheap. I got mine with no explanation in terms of the rules I signed up for. The mod who gave it to me ran away rather than explain. Ed, do an Istari and start collecting…
Stuart
Hi Stuart,What does… 'do an Istari and start collecting' …mean?
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgistari has a nice collection of tiles (warnings) beside his name, hence he is a collector, hence do an istari and start collecting.
nothing more, nothing less
that is a task that i cannot help you with edj, i have only ever received a warning.
perhaps you should taunt mike a bit, he did not seem to like it when you placed one beside his name, which i thought to be quite genius and a bit amusing.
i would have gave one to mike for threating you if you did it again, that is just me though, goes to show i would be a terrible mod, would definitley hand out a few to WJ, and just for fun remove Stuarts, possibly give one to Kerwin, just so people would scratch their head in wonder.
good to see you posting again on the forum.
Hi Princess,
Thank you!
Your brother
in Christ, Jesus!
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (mikeboll64 @ June 24 2011,14:10) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 23 2011,13:27) I am not aware of what types of bodies they may possess but they must have “substantial” bodies for them to have been seen by humans. Lot actually physically saw angels and the people outside literally wanted to have sex with them so they must have a literal presence or can create one, they also had sex with woman that had babies so I guess yes would be the answer although as I said they may be transformative bodies.
Hi BD,Thanks for your input. As MOST of us know, (but apparently not all), I asked you the question here because I am aware that you cannot post in the “Believer's Section”, where the “Bodies” thread is.
I agree that Jesus does have a body in heaven right now. But I also try my best to accept the scriptures as a child, and see no reason whatsoever for the descriptions of angels given by Isaiah and Ezekiel and John to be anything but the truth of what angels truly look like in heaven. After all, God is the One who designed the ark of the covenant, complete with winged cherubim on the lid. Was God playing into a “fairy tale” to confuse us?
We've also discussed how angels would be “everywhere all the time” if not for some “outer perimeter” that distinguishes they are HERE at the same time they are not THERE. And if they were “everywhere all the time”, they could not be said to have “come to” or “gone from” people and places in the scriptures – for they would always BE anyplace they were said to have “come to” or “gone from”.
And we've discussed how all the angels would just blend together into one being if there existed nothing to separate one of them from the others. There has to be something that distinguishes the being of Michael from the being of Gabriel in heaven – even if that something is undetectable to human eyes or touch.
Anyway, I just wanted your opinion since I happened to be over here trying to defend myself.
peace,
mike
I pretty much agree with you on this. The body of something is simply it's container or its form it is the Spirit that gives it life in whatever form it takes for Jesus said:John 6:63
It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.The Quran says that Gabriel appeared to Mary as a man in all respects:
She placed a screen (to screen herself) from them; then We sent her our angel, and he appeared before her as a man in all respects.
( سورة مريم , Maryam, Chapter #19, Verse #17)When I think of bodies I think of them as Habitations and most likely they are simply needed to live in an environment like a space suit is needed to live in space.
Quote (Ed J @ June 25 2011,02:25) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 24 2011,06:22) Quote (Ed J @ June 21 2011,11:07) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 21 2011,03:40) Quote (Ed J @ June 19 2011,21:09) Quote (david @ June 19 2011,17:29) Are you confusing David with Davidbfun?
Hi David,BD also gets YHVH confused with satan, so I wouldn't worry about it too much.
Your brother
in Christ, Jesus!
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Why would you say such a horrible lie, obviously you have no idea what I believe but one thing is for sure you certainly have beared false witness.Exodus 23
1Thou shalt not raise a false report:
Does YHVH approve of what you did ed?
Hi BD,Does the truth bother you?
YHVH bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
You didn't utter the truth you lied and made.
Hi BD,Still not coming to grips with your confusion?
It is you who reads a false report.
The “Gospel” is true!YHVH blessings
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
You weren't arguinf the Gospel you made a false report pertaining to YHVH and therefore you sinned.BD,
How do you say you agree (in part) with Mike, then go on to explain your belief that a body is a vessel that things dwell in.Mike is saying that the SPIRIT has that body already.
Mike is saying that the SPIRIT ready dwells in a body – and that Body of the Spirit ITSELF dwells in a human body.
And – we not talking HUMAN SPIRIT – but Angels…IN HEAVEN :- God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit… Do they dwell in Bodies IN HEAVEN.
Are you sure you getting the big picture here?
Quote (Istari @ June 25 2011,06:40) BD,
How do you say you agree (in part) with Mike, then go on to explain your belief that a body is a vessel that things dwell in.Mike is saying that the SPIRIT has that body already.
Mike is saying that the SPIRIT ready dwells in a body – and that Body of the Spirit ITSELF dwells in a human body.
And – we not talking HUMAN SPIRIT – but Angels…IN HEAVEN :- God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit… Do they dwell in Bodies IN HEAVEN.
Are you sure you getting the big picture here?
There could be bodies within bodies. If the scripture says the Spirit of God was over the face of the deep wouldn't that be an objective occurence?All I am saying is that you may be considering form vs formless and not body vs bodiless.
But I am not really sure of the importance of the argument or distinction.
Quote (princess @ June 24 2011,10:08)
perhaps you should taunt mike a bit, he did not seem to like it when you placed one beside his name, which i thought to be quite genius and a bit amusing.
At first I also thought it was funny and wondered how he did it. But then I looked at it from the point of view of the person who left HN after receiving his own tile, and didn't come back for months – until after he convinced t8 to remove it.And from THAT point of view, the tile he gave me was not a funny joke, for he surely didn't consider his own tile as a joke, but a serious blemish upon his credibility and behavior here.
Quote (bodhitharta @ June 25 2011,09:52) But I am not really sure of the importance of the argument or distinction.
The legitimate point you made has been brought up many times throughout the 300+ pages of the “Bodies” thread. I also can't imagine how this subject is important to everlasting life.I am glad I started the thread though, for anything that causes me to delve deeper into scripture is a good thing.
That's why I'm here, after all.Thanks for your input, BD.
peace,
mikeQuote (mikeboll64 @ June 26 2011,03:33) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 25 2011,09:52) But I am not really sure of the importance of the argument or distinction.
The legitimate point you made has been brought up many times throughout the 300+ pages of the “Bodies” thread. I also can't imagine how this subject is important to everlasting life.I am glad I started the thread though, for anything that causes me to delve deeper into scripture is a good thing.
That's why I'm here, after all.Thanks for your input, BD.
peace,
mike
you're welcomeQuote (bodhitharta @ June 25 2011,09:52) There could be bodies within bodies.
When I go swimming, I'm a body within a body of water.
Quote (Ed J @ June 25 2011,02:27) Quote (Stu @ June 24 2011,21:49) Tiles are cheap. I got mine with no explanation in terms of the rules I signed up for. The mod who gave it to me ran away rather than explain. Ed, do an Istari and start collecting…
Stuart
Hi Stuart,What does… 'do an Istari and start collecting' …mean?
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Bump for StuartQuote (mikeboll64 @ June 26 2011,03:36) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 25 2011,09:52) There could be bodies within bodies.
When I go swimming, I'm a body within a body of water.
Mike,
Of course there can be bodies within bodies…In the physical world… Why do you say it as if it is a revelation?What you should be asking is 'Is there a Body in a Spirit'…?
You say a Spirit is in a body – So What IS THAT SPIRIT?
Does THAT Spirit IN that BODY itself have A Body?Mike, you define 'Body' as an outer perimeter. Ok, work with that: The OUTER PERIMETER of the Spirit forms a BODY around – encasing – the Spirit… Is the Spirit INSIDE the encasing perimeter a BODY?
Come on Mike. Just say 'No, the SPIRIT inside the outer Perimeter (Body) is Not itself a body'
Mike, if you DON'T then you got a mighty struggle to explain the next step…
Remember 'Recursion' – if the Spirit IS a Body INSIDE A BODY which then is INSIDE a Human Body…Mike, I think you get yourself in a tangle…Which BODY dies…?
Quote (princess @ June 25 2011,02:34) istari has a nice collection of tiles (warnings) beside his name, hence he is a collector, hence do an istari and start collecting. nothing more, nothing less
…Quote (Istari @ July 03 2011,04:30) Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 26 2011,03:36) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 25 2011,09:52) There could be bodies within bodies.
When I go swimming, I'm a body within a body of water.
Mike,
Of course there can be bodies within bodies…In the physical world… Why do you say it as if it is a revelation?What you should be asking is 'Is there a Body in a Spirit'…?
You say a Spirit is in a body – So What IS THAT SPIRIT?
Does THAT Spirit IN that BODY itself have A Body?Mike, you define 'Body' as an outer perimeter. Ok, work with that: The OUTER PERIMETER of the Spirit forms a BODY around – encasing – the Spirit… Is the Spirit INSIDE the encasing perimeter a BODY?
Come on Mike. Just say 'No, the SPIRIT inside the outer Perimeter (Body) is Not itself a body'
Mike, if you DON'T then you got a mighty struggle to explain the next step…
Remember 'Recursion' – if the Spirit IS a Body INSIDE A BODY which then is INSIDE a Human Body…Mike, I think you get yourself in a tangle…Which BODY dies…?
Ecclesiastes 127 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
The Physical body returns to the earth and the Spirituual Body goes back to God and it must be a spiritual body because it is expressed to be so in the story of Lazarus and the rich man.
Quote (Stu @ July 03 2011,10:07) Quote (princess @ June 25 2011,02:34) istari has a nice collection of tiles (warnings) beside his name, hence he is a collector, hence do an istari and start collecting. nothing more, nothing less
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Bump for Edj.
Quote (princess @ July 09 2011,06:20) Quote (Stu @ July 03 2011,10:07) Quote (princess @ June 25 2011,02:34) istari has a nice collection of tiles (warnings) beside his name, hence he is a collector, hence do an istari and start collecting. nothing more, nothing less
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Bump for Edj.
Bump for Ed.Stuart
Hi Stuart,
I don't mean to neglect you… what?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
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