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  • #157189
    bodhitharta
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    Quote (942767 @ Nov. 17 2009,10:39)
    Hi BD:

    You ask:

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    Can you tell me exactly why the Quran is wrong?

    I have already told you, and therefore, there is no need to keep going over the same thing over and over again.

    I love you and am praying for you and your family.

    Love in Christ,
    Marty


    (6) Say: “O ye men! If ye are in doubt as to my religion, (behold!) I worship not what ye worship, other than Allah. But I worship Allah – Who will take your souls (at death): I am commanded to be (in the ranks) of the Believers,
    ( سورة يونس , Yunus, Chapter #10, Verse #104)

    You cannot tell me why the Quran is wrong because it would only be speculation.

    (2) If any one disputes in this matter with thee, now after (full) knowledge Hath come to thee, say: “Come! let us gather together,- our sons and your sons, our women and your women, ourselves and yourselves: Then let us earnestly pray, and invoke the curse of allah on those who lie!”
    ( سورة آل عمران , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #61)

    If you don't understand that is fine but to call the word of God “wrong” or a “lie” is unacceptable this is the same way the Jews treated those who followed the Messiah calling even Christ a false Prophet and a heretic, they were wrong and so are you.

    God bless you but because I love you I will try to snatch you out of the fire.

    (1) Never will the Jews or the Christians be satisfied with thee unless thou follow their form of religion. Say: “The Guidance of Allah,-that is the (only) Guidance.” Wert thou to follow their desires after the knowledge which hath reached thee, then wouldst thou find neither Protector nor helper against Allah.
    ( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #120)

    #157193
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi BD,
    So everything is right till proven wrong?
    Naah.

    The quran is of men

    #157194
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 17 2009,11:35)
    Hi BD,
    So everything is right till proven wrong?
    Naah.

    The quran is of men


    For all men because it is the truth from your LORD

    #157195
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi BD,
    Exactly and the nations lap it up following the god of this world.
    Come outside the city walls following Jesus into his shame for the sake of the resurrection.

    #157198
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 17 2009,11:39)
    Hi BD,
    Exactly and the nations lap it up following the god of this world.
    Come outside the city walls following Jesus into his shame for the sake of the resurrection.


    The God of this world is not Jehovah?

    #157201
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi BD,
    Exactly but it will be because His Son has overcome him.
    We pray in support of this victory-on earth as it is in heaven.
    If you did not realise this have you unwittingly been serving the wrong king?

    #157204
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 17 2009,12:26)
    Hi BD,
    Exactly but it will be because His Son has overcome him.
    We pray in support of this victory-on earth as it is in heaven.
    If you did not realise this have you unwittingly been serving the wrong king?


    Nick,

    Didn't God say to Jesus “sit at my right hand till I make your enemies your footstool”?

    #157207
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi BD,
    Indeed God will subdue the nations and their spiritual leader under the foot of Jesus and his brothers.
    Rom16

    #157208
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 17 2009,12:42)
    Hi BD,
    Indeed God will subdue the nations and their spiritual leader under the foot of Jesus and his brothers.
    Rom16


    Then why is it said that Jesus is the one putting the enemy under his feet and then returning the kingdom to God?

    1 Corinthians 15:23-25 (King James Version)
    24Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

    25For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.

    Which is right Nick? Is Jesus reigning or is God reigning. Is God putting the enmies of Christ under his feet or is Jesus putting his enemies under his feet?

    #157209
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi BD,
    Read Ps 2 and see God at work in and for King Jesus.

    #157210
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 17 2009,12:52)
    Hi BD,
    Read Ps 2 and see God at work in and for King Jesus.


    You didn't answer the question?

    Kiss the son? which son? Solomon, David, Adam who?

    #157214
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi BD,
    You do get so confused.
    If you had the Spirit of God you would have light.

    #157215
    942767
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 17 2009,10:57)

    Quote (942767 @ Nov. 17 2009,10:39)
    Hi BD:

    You ask:

    Quote
    Can you tell me exactly why the Quran is wrong?

    I have already told you, and therefore, there is no need to keep going over the same thing over and over again.

    I love you and am praying for you and your family.

    Love in Christ,
    Marty


    (6) Say: “O ye men! If ye are in doubt as to my religion, (behold!) I worship not what ye worship, other than Allah. But I worship Allah – Who will take your souls (at death): I am commanded to be (in the ranks) of the Believers,  
    (  سورة يونس  , Yunus, Chapter #10, Verse #104)

    You cannot tell me why the Quran is wrong because it would only be speculation.

    (2) If any one disputes in this matter with thee, now after (full) knowledge Hath come to thee, say: “Come! let us gather together,- our sons and your sons, our women and your women, ourselves and yourselves: Then let us earnestly pray, and invoke the curse of allah on those who lie!”  
    (  سورة آل عمران  , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #61)

    If you don't understand that is fine but to call the word of God “wrong” or a “lie” is unacceptable this is the same way the Jews treated those who followed the Messiah calling even Christ a false Prophet and a heretic, they were wrong and so are you.

    God bless you but because I love you I will try to snatch you out of the fire.

    (1) Never will the Jews or the Christians be satisfied with thee unless thou follow their form of religion. Say: “The Guidance of Allah,-that is the (only) Guidance.” Wert thou to follow their desires after the knowledge which hath reached thee, then wouldst thou find neither Protector nor helper against Allah.  
    (  سورة البقرة  , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #120)


    Hi BD:

    Prayer is the answer when we don't agree on what God has said, and so, yes, let us pray and ask God what He said, since that is what is in question between us.

    And right, the truth will be revealed one way or another.

    Love in Christ,
    Marty

    #157219
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 17 2009,13:03)
    Hi BD,
    You do get so confused.
    If you had the Spirit of God you would have light.


    Which light? Jesus is not the light of the world because he said:

    As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world.
    John 9:4-6

    So what light should I have?

    Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.
    Matthew 5:13-15

    The sun shall be no more thy light by day; neither for brightness shall the moon give light unto thee: but the LORD shall be unto thee an everlasting light, and thy God thy glory.
    Isaiah 60:18-20

    #157220
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi BD,
    Indeed the light of God was in him and he is the source of light for men.
    Come to him, but leave your islamic trash behind.

    #157221
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 17 2009,13:15)
    Hi BD,
    Indeed the light of God was in him and he is the source of light for men.
    Come to him, but leave your islamic trash behind.


    So your light doesn't come from God?

    You get your light from Jesus who said that he is NOT the light of the world when he is not in it?

    Yet you say Islamic Trash? Was that a statement from the Light of God? Of course not you just explained that God does not directly give you light.

    Why fear Islam perhaps the truth is scary but you should embrace it anyway.

    #157222
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi BD,
    Yes put your glasses on the light is from the Father of lights.
    God was in him reconciling the world to Himself and can also be in us.

    #157223
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi BD,
    Why eat your dry fodder when the word of God is life giving bread?

    #157225
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 17 2009,13:25)
    Hi BD,
    Why eat your dry fodder when the word of God is life giving bread?


    I eat the word of God you keep it without consuming it.

    #157226
    NickHassan
    Participant

    hmmm

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