Bloodless atonement

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    bodhitharta
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    Quote (peace2all @ Dec. 09 2009,07:47)
    i showed you scriptures what we were talking about which was his blood ransom did what it did. you deny it does. yuo are trying to argue something that wasn't an arguement before or implied

    i never ever said that he was just sent to be killed.

    i showed you what you deny and that is christ ransom did cleanse us and sanctify us and shed the dominiom of sin over us. it opened a way to god for forgiveness of sins if  u repent your wrongful ways/ now we can just worry about worshiping him and doing his work through spiritual things for that what is gonig to give us the salvation to god's kingdom. but we must do all the bible says of us and follow jesus as example. one cannot just do some thing but not all.

    the works of flesh or works of flesh cannot save oneself as the bible says


    Are you saying that a person cannot worship God without believeing Jesus died for their sins?

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    peace2all
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    Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 09 2009,10:43)

    Quote (peace2all @ Dec. 09 2009,07:47)
    i showed you scriptures what we were talking about which was his blood ransom did what it did. you deny it does. yuo are trying to argue something that wasn't an arguement before or implied

    i never ever said that he was just sent to be killed.

    i showed you what you deny and that is christ ransom did cleanse us and sanctify us and shed the dominiom of sin over us. it opened a way to god for forgiveness of sins if  u repent your wrongful ways/ now we can just worry about worshiping him and doing his work through spiritual things for that what is gonig to give us the salvation to god's kingdom. but we must do all the bible says of us and follow jesus as example. one cannot just do some thing but not all.

    the works of flesh or works of flesh cannot save oneself as the bible says


    Are you saying that a person cannot worship God without believeing Jesus died for their sins?


    you must worship god and obey his words. how can you do that completly if you deny and ignore

    the pharaisees thought they were doing so but at the same time they were trying to kill jesus and were doing things detestable to god. jesus said to them that they do the will of their father satan the ruler of this worlds system of things

    the jews thought they were too, they still worshipped other gods and tried to kill all those involved with christ and thus having christ killed.

    if the bible tells you that to do this or to do that, then one should do it without question.

    if the bible tells you an answer to a question you seek or are discussing then you should accept it.

    if you do not do the things it says, if you ignore or disprove his words shown to you , you are not worshiping him.

    if your views are not as the bibles tells you and you do not accept the message ans answer it gives – how can one say they are worshipping him if they go against him or ignore it.

    #163097
    peace2all
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    Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 09 2009,10:43)

    Quote (peace2all @ Dec. 09 2009,07:47)
    i showed you scriptures what we were talking about which was his blood ransom did what it did. you deny it does. yuo are trying to argue something that wasn't an arguement before or implied

    i never ever said that he was just sent to be killed.

    i showed you what you deny and that is christ ransom did cleanse us and sanctify us and shed the dominiom of sin over us. it opened a way to god for forgiveness of sins if  u repent your wrongful ways/ now we can just worry about worshiping him and doing his work through spiritual things for that what is gonig to give us the salvation to god's kingdom. but we must do all the bible says of us and follow jesus as example. one cannot just do some thing but not all.

    the works of flesh or works of flesh cannot save oneself as the bible says


    Are you saying that a person cannot worship God without believeing Jesus died for their sins?


    if you demean or reject jesus or god or his words in anyway, one cannot say they worship god

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