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before i answer your question,
you mean a son of GOD will be thrown into the lake of fire?
i tell you now, you cant read that in zec 3:2do not make conclusion. read the verse well.
i just posted the meaning of the verse. i hope that would help you
Quote (jammin @ Jan. 17 2012,22:25) before i answer your question,
you mean a son of GOD will be thrown into the lake of fire?
i tell you now, you cant read that in zec 3:2do not make conclusion. read the verse well.
i just posted the meaning of the verse. i hope that would help you
Hi Jammin,No. Now please answer my questions, which are…
What is the “FIRE” in Isaiah 30:14?
Do you believe the fire in Zech 3:2 is the lake of fire of Revelation?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgi already answered your question edj.
before i proceed to your next question. i want to clear things.,
you mean a son of GOD will be thrown into the lake of fire?
Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 17 2012,22:29) Do you believe the fire in Zech 3:2 is the lake of fire of Revelation?
Hi Jammin,Are you saying that you answered “Yes” to this question?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgare you going to answer my question or not??
i said ill answer your question after you answer my questionQuote (jammin @ Jan. 17 2012,22:34) will you answer my question or not??
i said ill answer your question after you answer my question
Hi Jammin,Why are you trying to be difficult? I plan on going into Zech 3:2 more, I promise.
You took the time to explain what you believe Zech 3:2 and Isaiah 30:14 means,
but all I asked is: what do you(Jammin) believe the fire is in each of these verses.I think that you believe the fire in Zech 3:2 is the lake of fire of Revelation,
but I'm not positive, because you are being unclear? …will you clear the air?Do you believe the fire in Zech 3:2 is the lake of fire of Revelation?
Also, what do you believe the fire in Isaiah 30:14 is?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgthis is what you said
Quote Hi Jammin, Actually a “son of God” can be burned in the fire, see Zech 3:2.
“is not this a brand plucked out of the fire?” (Zech 3:2)
Notice how it doesn't say kept out of the fire?before i proceed.
do you believe that a son of God will be thrown into the lake of fire?Hi Jammin,
First we need to establish what the 'lake of fire' is,
and what you mean by “thrown into” to answer you.I'm trying to establish what the lake of fire is with you, but you are not cooperating.
If you do not want to dig deeper into the Scripture with me, that's OK, no problem.
Perhaps you would rather just engage in endless disputes with others, is that it?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgyou said that edj
mike and i were discussing about satan
according to mike satan is a son of GOD.then you posted zec 3:2
what is the connection there?im trying to clear things here.
if you want to discuss about zec 3:2 then make a new thread and we will discuss it there.
give me your opinion in zec 3:2 and we will study the verse
is that ok with you??Quote (jammin @ Jan. 17 2012,23:02) you said that edj mike and i are discussing about satan
according to mike satan is a son of GOD.then you posted zec 3:2
what is the connection there?im trying to clear things here.
if you want to discuss about zec 3:2 then make a new thread and we will discuss it there.
give me your opinion in zec 3:2 and we will study the verse
is that ok with you??
What is the “FIRE” in Isaiah 30:14?hahahahaah
you keep asking me about the fire in IS 30:14
hahahahaEDJ.
if you want to discuss that two verses, you can make another thread.
Quote (jammin @ Jan. 17 2012,22:04) what about is 30:14??
you are asking about IS 30:14this verse talks about the people who turned away and rejected the message of GOD. they trust in violence and LIES
so do you think they are still sons of GOD???
Revelation 21:8
New International Version (NIV)
8 But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”
what is the meaning of IS 30:14?
The Jews were the only professing people God then had in the world, yet many among them were rebellious. They had the light, but they loved darkness rather. The prophets checked them in their sinful pursuits, so that they could not proceed without fear; this they took amiss. But faithful ministers will not be driven from seeking to awaken sinners. God is the Holy One of Israel, and so they shall find him. They did not like to hear of his holy commandments and his hatred of sin; they desired that they might no more be reminded of these things. But as they despised the word of God, their sins undermined their safety. Their state would be dashed in pieces like a potter's vessel. Let us return from our evil ways, and settle in the way of duty; that is the way to be saved. Would we be strengthened, it must be in quietness and in confidence, keeping peace in our own minds, and relying upon God. They think themselves wiser than God; but the project by which they thought to save themselves was their ruin. Only here and there one shall escape, as a warning to others. If men will not repent, turn to God, and seek happiness in his favour and service, their desires will but hasten their ruin. Those who make God alone their confidence, will have comfort. God ever waits to be gracious to all that come to him by faith in Christ, and happy are those who wait for him.
Hi Jammin,Your response wasn't a clear answer to my question, though you mention Rev.21:8?
Are you saying you believe the fire in Isaiah 30:14 is the lake of fire; yes or no??
Do you believe the fire in Zech 3:2 is the lake of fire of Revelation; yes or no?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgthe fire in zec 3:2
YOU SAID A WHILE AGO THAT A SON OF GOD …
Quote Hi Jammin, Actually a “son of God” can be burned in the fire, see Zech 3:2.
“is not this a brand plucked out of the fire?” (Zech 3:2)
Notice how it doesn't say kept out of the fire?IT MEANS THAT GOD REACH IN AND PULL OUT JERUSALEM! THAT'S THE MEANING OF ” plucked out of the fire?” “
SO DONT EVER USE THAT ZEC 3:2 AND MAKE CONCLUSIONS JUST TO SAY THAT A SON OF GOD CAN BE BURNED IN THE FIRE!
THAT'S NOT THE MEANING OF THE VERSE EDJ! IT'S YOUR OWN OPINION!
Quote (jammin @ Jan. 17 2012,23:36) the fire in zec 3:2 is not literal. WE ARE NOT TALKING HERE ABOUT THE LAKE OF FIRE! YOU SAID A WHILE AGO THAT A SON OF GOD …
Quote Hi Jammin, Actually a “son of God” can be burned in the fire, see Zech 3:2.
“is not this a brand plucked out of the fire?” (Zech 3:2)
Notice how it doesn't say kept out of the fire?BUT THE FIRE IN ZEC IS NOT LITERAL FIRE!
IT MEANS THAT GOD REACH IN AND PULL OUT JERUSALEM! THAT'S THE MEANING OF ” plucked out of the fire?” “SO DONT EVER USE THAT ZEC 3:2 AND MAKE CONCLUSIONS JUST TO SAY THAT A SON OF GOD CAN BE BURNED IN THE FIRE!
THAT'S NOT THE MEANING OF THE VERSE EDJ! IT'S YOUR OWN OPINION!
Hi Jammin,Telling me what it is not, is not telling what it is?
So once again, what is the fire of Zech 3:2?
And what is the fire of Isaiah 30:14?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgzec 3:2
IT MEANS THAT GOD REACH IN AND PULL OUT JERUSALEM! THAT'S THE MEANING OF ” plucked out of the fire” “Quote (jammin @ Jan. 17 2012,23:45) zec 3:2
IT MEANS THAT GOD REACH IN AND PULL OUT JERUSALEM! THAT'S THE MEANING OF ” plucked out of the fire” “
Hi Jammin,Pull Jerusalem out of what “FIRE”? You still haven't identified what the fire is?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (jammin @ Jan. 17 2012,23:49) IS 30:14
to take fire in the hearth
means,
to be swept up and thrown in the trash
Hi Jammin,So Isaiah 30:14 is about a garbage pit burning, with no spiritual application? Not the lake of fire of Revelation?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Jan. 17 2012,23:54) Quote (jammin @ Jan. 17 2012,23:45) zec 3:2
IT MEANS THAT GOD REACH IN AND PULL OUT JERUSALEM! THAT'S THE MEANING OF ” plucked out of the fire” “
Hi Jammin,Pull Jerusalem out of what “FIRE”? You still haven't identified what the fire is?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Zechariah 3:2King James Version (KJV)
2And the LORD said unto Satan, The LORD rebuke thee, O Satan; even the LORD that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: is not this a brand plucked out of the fire?
“plucked out of the fire “
meaning – THAT GOD REACH IN AND PULL OUT JERUSALEMread the verse, it doesnt say FIRE only. it says PLUCKED OUT OF THE FIRE
Isaiah 30:14
King James Version (KJV)
14And he shall break it as the breaking of the potters' vessel that is broken in pieces; he shall not spare: so that there shall not be found in the bursting of it a sherd to take fire from the hearth, or to take water withal out of the pit.
look at the verse again,
it does not say FIRE ONLY.
it says, TO TAKE FIRE FROM THE HEARTH.the meaning of TO TAKE FIRE FROM THE HEARTH IS
to be swept up and thrown in the trashagain, do not use zec 3:2 just to say that a son of GOD can be burned in the fire. that's not the meaning of the verse. you cant read that in zec 3:2.. it's just your opinion.
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