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Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 26 2012,12:35) there are tree sorts of dead in scriptures ;1) the dead dead
<img src=" ” target=”_blank”>http://www.history.co.uk/shows….MG];2) the walking dead those who live a useless live .
3) the dead that are alive ,those are the ones that knows Gods and his son.
Stuart
Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 26 2012,12:35) there are tree sorts of dead in scriptures 1) the dead dead
Quote 2) the walking dead those who live a useless live . Quote 3) the dead that are alive ,those are the ones that knows Gods and his son. Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 26 2012,12:42) stu Quote More special pleading. You realise that special pleading is a logical fallacy, a statement that philosophy considers cannot be used as a valid argument, don’t you. this comment of yours can be said about most everything we can think of ,even and specially science ,there argument is in constant progress and so devaluate the previous ,all books in history and sciences have to be rewritten ,
Pierre
Nope, sorry. Newer science does not devalue the old, it improves it.Special pleading is the antithesis of science. It is what you claim when you cannot show any evidence and must pretend you have information that was only available to you.
Stuart
Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 26 2012,12:45) stu Quote Quote
NOT SO WITH THE MAN OF GOD, HE KNOWS WERE HE GO'S,NO NEED TO SHOUT. You can live in the delusion of thinking you know, but you can’t even answer my simple question.
this we will see at the end ;either if men as succeeded to save the planet or God as intervene and got rid of the nuts who run this planet.
Pierre
It was humans who got rid of these two nuts.
Stuart
Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 26 2012,12:48) stu Quote GANDHI DID MORE THEN ANY SCIENTIST DID FOR MANKIND, I’m not dissing Gandhi. His influence is widespread, and all I did was disagree with him that the concept of a christ was a lovable one. However, since you are making it into a fight between Gandhi and science, which are not comparable situations anyway,Gandhi did not eradicate smallpox, which on its own was a terror that killed more than the number of lives saved that could be attributed to the philosophy of Gandhi. In this I recognise Edward Jenner, discoverer of the principle of vaccination and saver of countless millions.
Stuart
it is the industrial revolution that as made all thos deceises come forward and the way people lives ,
Pierre
You really don't know anything about smallpox, do you.You would certainly know about it if you caught it. If it didn't cause you an agonised death (a 60% chance of that in if you caught it in the 17th Century) it would almost certainly have severely disfigured you from all the deep pox on your face that weeped pus as the viruses parasitised your cells.
Do you know when the industrial revolution actually was? Can you name any disease in humans that did not exist before the industrial revolution.
Good grief, I had to try to decypher the context of your post just to work out that you had attempted to write the word disease.
Had you considered using Firefox for your browser? It contains a spellchecker.
Stuart
Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 24 2012,08:43) Quote (Stu @ Jan. 24 2012,15:17) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 23 2012,17:13) stu many years ago (55) I would have agreed with you ,but how could you know if some thing works unless you tested or try it ??
you Know I always wander why could GANGHI a 110 lbs five foot man trow out the british empire of his country and he did not use force ,
he said to the british “I love your Christ but I ate your Christians “
well you would not understand it
Pierre
It isn't that I wouldn't understand, it is that I would disagree with Gandhi.In fact I would almost say it the other way round, I love christians but object to christianity.
I agree that the way to find out if something works is to try it, indeed that is a simple way of saying use the scientific method. So, do we know of any problem that can be shown (by trying it) to be solved, universally for all humans, by application of the verses you posted, or indeed any Judeo-christian scriptures.
Stuart
STUno Gandhi ad it right ,you have it wrong,but you can chose to have it wrong don't get me wrong,as a unbeliever you do have the right to commit suicide,
you see being a Christian is nothing like you can think or understand ,
see science sits on chairs and wait to see what 's next ,because they do not know ,they mostly do not understand anything ,this is why they always call it a finding because that s what it is a finding not a calculated understanding ,no a finding and most are by accident,
and after they start to understand what really happen ,they start to see that they only have a small part of what they need to know,and so on and on like a blind man with a white cane ,
NOT SO WITH THE MAN OF GOD, HE KNOWS WERE HE GO'S,
HE KNOW AND IS FED WITH ASSURANCE AND CONVICTION TO WERE HE AS TO GO ,NO ONE CAN TAKE HIM OF THE ROAD WERE HE GO'S,
SEE EVEN GANDHI YOU FIND A CRITICISM BUT NO ADMIRATION AND FIND THE REASON OF HIS SUCCESS.
GANDHI DID MORE THEN ANY SCIENTIST DID FOR MANKIND,
THIS SHOWS YOUR INNER HEART IN POOR CONDITION,
Pierre
Ghandi was also Hindu someone you believe is going to hellQuote (Stu @ Jan. 26 2012,20:31) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 26 2012,12:48) stu Quote GANDHI DID MORE THEN ANY SCIENTIST DID FOR MANKIND, I’m not dissing Gandhi. His influence is widespread, and all I did was disagree with him that the concept of a christ was a lovable one. However, since you are making it into a fight between Gandhi and science, which are not comparable situations anyway,Gandhi did not eradicate smallpox, which on its own was a terror that killed more than the number of lives saved that could be attributed to the philosophy of Gandhi. In this I recognise Edward Jenner, discoverer of the principle of vaccination and saver of countless millions.
Stuart
it is the industrial revolution that as made all thos deceises come forward and the way people lives ,
Pierre
You really don't know anything about smallpox, do you.You would certainly know about it if you caught it. If it didn't cause you an agonised death (a 60% chance of that in if you caught it in the 17th Century) it would almost certainly have severely disfigured you from all the deep pox on your face that weeped pus as the viruses parasitised your cells.
Do you know when the industrial revolution actually was? Can you name any disease in humans that did not exist before the industrial revolution.
Good grief, I had to try to decypher the context of your post just to work out that you had attempted to write the word disease.
Had you considered using Firefox for your browser? It contains a spellchecker.
Stuart
I think it is a silly argument to somehow think that science has not been the driving force of all physical reality and this is in the correct line of God centered thinking because God told us to learn and dominate the earth.Islam and science describes the relationship between Muslim communities and science in general. From an Islamic standpoint, science, the study of nature, is considered to be linked to the concept of Tawhid (the Oneness of God), as are all other branches of knowledge.[1] In Islam, nature is not seen as a separate entity, but rather as an integral part of Islam’s holistic outlook on God, humanity, and the world. This link implies a sacred aspect to the pursuit of scientific knowledge by Muslims, as nature itself is viewed in the Qur’an as a compilation of signs pointing to the Divine.[2] It was with this understanding that the pursuit of science was tolerated in Islamic civilizations, specifically during the eighth to sixteenth centuries, prior to the colonization of the Muslim world.[3]
According to theoretical physicist Jim Al-Khalili, the modern scientific method was pioneered by Islamic scientist Ibn Al-Haytham (known to the west as “Alhazen”) whose contributions are likened to those of Isaac Newton.[4] Alhazen helped shift the emphasis on abstract theorizing onto systematic and repeatable experimentation, followed by careful criticism of premises and inferences.[5] Robert Briffault, in The Making of Humanity, asserts that the very existence of science, as it is understood in the modern sense, is rooted in the scientific thought and knowledge that emerged in Islamic civilizations during this time.[6]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_islamQuote (Stu @ Jan. 27 2012,03:15) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 26 2012,12:35) there are tree sorts of dead in scriptures ;1) the dead dead
<img src=" ” target=”_blank”>http://www.history.co.uk/shows……….MG];2) the walking dead those who live a useless live .
3) the dead that are alive ,those are the ones that knows Gods and his son.
Stuart
stu
but their are billions of others of witch you do not have pictures,
Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 27 2012,10:40) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 24 2012,08:43) Quote (Stu @ Jan. 24 2012,15:17) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 23 2012,17:13) stu many years ago (55) I would have agreed with you ,but how could you know if some thing works unless you tested or try it ??
you Know I always wander why could GANGHI a 110 lbs five foot man trow out the british empire of his country and he did not use force ,
he said to the british “I love your Christ but I ate your Christians “
well you would not understand it
Pierre
It isn't that I wouldn't understand, it is that I would disagree with Gandhi.In fact I would almost say it the other way round, I love christians but object to christianity.
I agree that the way to find out if something works is to try it, indeed that is a simple way of saying use the scientific method. So, do we know of any problem that can be shown (by trying it) to be solved, universally for all humans, by application of the verses you posted, or indeed any Judeo-christian scriptures.
Stuart
STUno Gandhi ad it right ,you have it wrong,but you can chose to have it wrong don't get me wrong,as a unbeliever you do have the right to commit suicide,
you see being a Christian is nothing like you can think or understand ,
see science sits on chairs and wait to see what 's next ,because they do not know ,they mostly do not understand anything ,this is why they always call it a finding because that s what it is a finding not a calculated understanding ,no a finding and most are by accident,
and after they start to understand what really happen ,they start to see that they only have a small part of what they need to know,and so on and on like a blind man with a white cane ,
NOT SO WITH THE MAN OF GOD, HE KNOWS WERE HE GO'S,
HE KNOW AND IS FED WITH ASSURANCE AND CONVICTION TO WERE HE AS TO GO ,NO ONE CAN TAKE HIM OF THE ROAD WERE HE GO'S,
SEE EVEN GANDHI YOU FIND A CRITICISM BUT NO ADMIRATION AND FIND THE REASON OF HIS SUCCESS.
GANDHI DID MORE THEN ANY SCIENTIST DID FOR MANKIND,
THIS SHOWS YOUR INNER HEART IN POOR CONDITION,
Pierre
Ghandi was also Hindu someone you believe is going to hell
stu you are funnybut you are who you are ,right ?
Quote (Stu @ Jan. 27 2012,03:22) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 26 2012,12:42) stu Quote More special pleading. You realise that special pleading is a logical fallacy, a statement that philosophy considers cannot be used as a valid argument, don’t you. this comment of yours can be said about most everything we can think of ,even and specially science ,there argument is in constant progress and so devaluate the previous ,all books in history and sciences have to be rewritten ,
Pierre
Nope, sorry. Newer science does not devalue the old, it improves it.Special pleading is the antithesis of science. It is what you claim when you cannot show any evidence and must pretend you have information that was only available to you.
Stuart
stuif it was not for the ones that refuse to accept the false believe that were in place at their time ,
but is this progress ? yea for the new comer,but for the previous 200,or 300,or 500 years prior to that
who cares
Pierre
Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 26 2012,10:09) Quote (princess @ Jan. 26 2012,09:47) Hello Edj, The rules of your game: for reference use the catholic cannonized bible. Skeptics, use all the knowledge that one can attain to find the truth.
Log 55: “The Sophia whom they call barren is the mother of the angels. And the consort of (Christ is) Mary Magdalene. (The Lord loved Mary) more than (all) the disciples, and kissed her on her (mouth) often. The others too ….they said to him, `Why do you love her more than all of us?' The Saviour answered and said to them, `Why do I not love you like her?'*” (The Gospel of Philip)
Peter as saying, “We know that the Saviour loved you more than other women.” (referring to Mary Magdalene) And he quotes Levi as saying later: “He loved her more than us.”Under Talmudic law, a man couldn't be considered righteous–in fact, couldn't even be considered a complete man–if he didn't marry and have children.
Makes no matter to me if he was or wasn't, I do not see how it would change what he taught.
Hi Princess,Canon means the measuring line of truth.
What you posted is merely hearsay,
not permissible in a court of law.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hello Edj,Standing behind Rome, and placing your faith in Ceasar. OK.
Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 26 2012,10:06) Quote (princess @ Jan. 26 2012,16:51) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 25 2012,08:25) princess Quote Can you show me a passage or verse that tells me Jesus was not married, or is it priori. this is unusual request, is it not the other way around ?? that all publishing goes ahead to proclaim a near future marriage
funny
So T, you are preparing yourself as a bride so your God can give you away to his son for marriage.We all have some dysfunctions in our families, it is not uncommon.
princessNo ,I think that it takes more than I can do to be a bride for Christ,
If i can be one of the care takers in a corner some were it would be ok with me ,as long that I am in his kingdom thats all
Pierre
T,Your worth is more.
Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 27 2012,03:51) Quote (Stu @ Jan. 26 2012,20:31) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 26 2012,12:48) stu Quote GANDHI DID MORE THEN ANY SCIENTIST DID FOR MANKIND, I’m not dissing Gandhi. His influence is widespread, and all I did was disagree with him that the concept of a christ was a lovable one. However, since you are making it into a fight between Gandhi and science, which are not comparable situations anyway,Gandhi did not eradicate smallpox, which on its own was a terror that killed more than the number of lives saved that could be attributed to the philosophy of Gandhi. In this I recognise Edward Jenner, discoverer of the principle of vaccination and saver of countless millions.
Stuart
it is the industrial revolution that as made all thos deceises come forward and the way people lives ,
Pierre
You really don't know anything about smallpox, do you.You would certainly know about it if you caught it. If it didn't cause you an agonised death (a 60% chance of that in if you caught it in the 17th Century) it would almost certainly have severely disfigured you from all the deep pox on your face that weeped pus as the viruses parasitised your cells.
Do you know when the industrial revolution actually was? Can you name any disease in humans that did not exist before the industrial revolution.
Good grief, I had to try to decypher the context of your post just to work out that you had attempted to write the word disease.
Had you considered using Firefox for your browser? It contains a spellchecker.
Stuart
I think it is a silly argument to somehow think that science has not been the driving force of all physical reality and this is in the correct line of God centered thinking because God told us to learn and dominate the earth.Islam and science describes the relationship between Muslim communities and science in general. From an Islamic standpoint, science, the study of nature, is considered to be linked to the concept of Tawhid (the Oneness of God), as are all other branches of knowledge.[1] In Islam, nature is not seen as a separate entity, but rather as an integral part of Islam’s holistic outlook on God, humanity, and the world. This link implies a sacred aspect to the pursuit of scientific knowledge by Muslims, as nature itself is viewed in the Qur’an as a compilation of signs pointing to the Divine.[2] It was with this understanding that the pursuit of science was tolerated in Islamic civilizations, specifically during the eighth to sixteenth centuries, prior to the colonization of the Muslim world.[3]
According to theoretical physicist Jim Al-Khalili, the modern scientific method was pioneered by Islamic scientist Ibn Al-Haytham (known to the west as “Alhazen”) whose contributions are likened to those of Isaac Newton.[4] Alhazen helped shift the emphasis on abstract theorizing onto systematic and repeatable experimentation, followed by careful criticism of premises and inferences.[5] Robert Briffault, in The Making of Humanity, asserts that the very existence of science, as it is understood in the modern sense, is rooted in the scientific thought and knowledge that emerged in Islamic civilizations during this time.[6]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_islam
BD, why are you still pushing 'false truths'? … ‘islam is FALSE’ ! …you can't erase what is FALSE in the quran!B'shem
YHVHQuote (terraricca @ Jan. 27 2012,08:52) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 27 2012,10:40) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 24 2012,08:43) Quote (Stu @ Jan. 24 2012,15:17) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 23 2012,17:13) stu many years ago (55) I would have agreed with you ,but how could you know if some thing works unless you tested or try it ??
you Know I always wander why could GANGHI a 110 lbs five foot man trow out the british empire of his country and he did not use force ,
he said to the british “I love your Christ but I ate your Christians “
well you would not understand it
Pierre
It isn't that I wouldn't understand, it is that I would disagree with Gandhi.In fact I would almost say it the other way round, I love christians but object to christianity.
I agree that the way to find out if something works is to try it, indeed that is a simple way of saying use the scientific method. So, do we know of any problem that can be shown (by trying it) to be solved, universally for all humans, by application of the verses you posted, or indeed any Judeo-christian scriptures.
Stuart
STUno Gandhi ad it right ,you have it wrong,but you can chose to have it wrong don't get me wrong,as a unbeliever you do have the right to commit suicide,
you see being a Christian is nothing like you can think or understand ,
see science sits on chairs and wait to see what 's next ,because they do not know ,they mostly do not understand anything ,this is why they always call it a finding because that s what it is a finding not a calculated understanding ,no a finding and most are by accident,
and after they start to understand what really happen ,they start to see that they only have a small part of what they need to know,and so on and on like a blind man with a white cane ,
NOT SO WITH THE MAN OF GOD, HE KNOWS WERE HE GO'S,
HE KNOW AND IS FED WITH ASSURANCE AND CONVICTION TO WERE HE AS TO GO ,NO ONE CAN TAKE HIM OF THE ROAD WERE HE GO'S,
SEE EVEN GANDHI YOU FIND A CRITICISM BUT NO ADMIRATION AND FIND THE REASON OF HIS SUCCESS.
GANDHI DID MORE THEN ANY SCIENTIST DID FOR MANKIND,
THIS SHOWS YOUR INNER HEART IN POOR CONDITION,
Pierre
Ghandi was also Hindu someone you believe is going to hell
stu you are funnybut you are who you are ,right ?
Who were you replying to?Stuart
Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 27 2012,08:59) Quote (Stu @ Jan. 27 2012,03:22) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 26 2012,12:42) stu Quote More special pleading. You realise that special pleading is a logical fallacy, a statement that philosophy considers cannot be used as a valid argument, don’t you. this comment of yours can be said about most everything we can think of ,even and specially science ,there argument is in constant progress and so devaluate the previous ,all books in history and sciences have to be rewritten ,
Pierre
Nope, sorry. Newer science does not devalue the old, it improves it.Special pleading is the antithesis of science. It is what you claim when you cannot show any evidence and must pretend you have information that was only available to you.
Stuart
stuif it was not for the ones that refuse to accept the false believe that were in place at their time ,
but is this progress ? yea for the new comer,but for the previous 200,or 300,or 500 years prior to that
who cares
Pierre
Newton's theories were not replaced by Einstein's.Quantum physicists use Einstein's work.
Aeronautical engineers use Newton's.
Stuart
Quote (Stu @ Jan. 28 2012,02:08) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 27 2012,08:59) Quote (Stu @ Jan. 27 2012,03:22) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 26 2012,12:42) stu Quote More special pleading. You realise that special pleading is a logical fallacy, a statement that philosophy considers cannot be used as a valid argument, don’t you. this comment of yours can be said about most everything we can think of ,even and specially science ,there argument is in constant progress and so devaluate the previous ,all books in history and sciences have to be rewritten ,
Pierre
Nope, sorry. Newer science does not devalue the old, it improves it.Special pleading is the antithesis of science. It is what you claim when you cannot show any evidence and must pretend you have information that was only available to you.
Stuart
stuif it was not for the ones that refuse to accept the false believe that were in place at their time ,
but is this progress ? yea for the new comer,but for the previous 200,or 300,or 500 years prior to that
who cares
Pierre
Newton's theories were not replaced by Einstein's.Quantum physicists use Einstein's work.
Aeronautical engineers use Newton's.
Stuart
stuit seems neither add it right in the gravity theory ,or they only add a part only so to speak ,
but what about the Greeks, mathematicians or the ones before Newton,Einstein
it is funny you do not mention that of those two people both are believers in God ,??
Pierre
Quote (Stu @ Jan. 28 2012,02:04) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 27 2012,08:52) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 27 2012,10:40) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 24 2012,08:43) Quote (Stu @ Jan. 24 2012,15:17) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 23 2012,17:13) stu many years ago (55) I would have agreed with you ,but how could you know if some thing works unless you tested or try it ??
you Know I always wander why could GANGHI a 110 lbs five foot man trow out the british empire of his country and he did not use force ,
he said to the british “I love your Christ but I ate your Christians “
well you would not understand it
Pierre
It isn't that I wouldn't understand, it is that I would disagree with Gandhi.In fact I would almost say it the other way round, I love christians but object to christianity.
I agree that the way to find out if something works is to try it, indeed that is a simple way of saying use the scientific method. So, do we know of any problem that can be shown (by trying it) to be solved, universally for all humans, by application of the verses you posted, or indeed any Judeo-christian scriptures.
Stuart
STUno Gandhi ad it right ,you have it wrong,but you can chose to have it wrong don't get me wrong,as a unbeliever you do have the right to commit suicide,
you see being a Christian is nothing like you can think or understand ,
see science sits on chairs and wait to see what 's next ,because they do not know ,they mostly do not understand anything ,this is why they always call it a finding because that s what it is a finding not a calculated understanding ,no a finding and most are by accident,
and after they start to understand what really happen ,they start to see that they only have a small part of what they need to know,and so on and on like a blind man with a white cane ,
NOT SO WITH THE MAN OF GOD, HE KNOWS WERE HE GO'S,
HE KNOW AND IS FED WITH ASSURANCE AND CONVICTION TO WERE HE AS TO GO ,NO ONE CAN TAKE HIM OF THE ROAD WERE HE GO'S,
SEE EVEN GANDHI YOU FIND A CRITICISM BUT NO ADMIRATION AND FIND THE REASON OF HIS SUCCESS.
GANDHI DID MORE THEN ANY SCIENTIST DID FOR MANKIND,
THIS SHOWS YOUR INNER HEART IN POOR CONDITION,
Pierre
Ghandi was also Hindu someone you believe is going to hell
stu you are funnybut you are who you are ,right ?
Who were you replying to?Stuart
stuit was to you Stuart,
it was you quick connection that made say that .
like that as anything to do with anything ,(hell believe)millions of people believe in it but I have only seen one Gandhi in my live
Pierre
Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 28 2012,02:57) Quote (Stu @ Jan. 28 2012,02:04) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 27 2012,08:52) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 27 2012,10:40) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 24 2012,08:43) Quote (Stu @ Jan. 24 2012,15:17) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 23 2012,17:13) stu many years ago (55) I would have agreed with you ,but how could you know if some thing works unless you tested or try it ??
you Know I always wander why could GANGHI a 110 lbs five foot man trow out the british empire of his country and he did not use force ,
he said to the british “I love your Christ but I ate your Christians “
well you would not understand it
Pierre
It isn't that I wouldn't understand, it is that I would disagree with Gandhi.In fact I would almost say it the other way round, I love christians but object to christianity.
I agree that the way to find out if something works is to try it, indeed that is a simple way of saying use the scientific method. So, do we know of any problem that can be shown (by trying it) to be solved, universally for all humans, by application of the verses you posted, or indeed any Judeo-christian scriptures.
Stuart
STUno Gandhi ad it right ,you have it wrong,but you can chose to have it wrong don't get me wrong,as a unbeliever you do have the right to commit suicide,
you see being a Christian is nothing like you can think or understand ,
see science sits on chairs and wait to see what 's next ,because they do not know ,they mostly do not understand anything ,this is why they always call it a finding because that s what it is a finding not a calculated understanding ,no a finding and most are by accident,
and after they start to understand what really happen ,they start to see that they only have a small part of what they need to know,and so on and on like a blind man with a white cane ,
NOT SO WITH THE MAN OF GOD, HE KNOWS WERE HE GO'S,
HE KNOW AND IS FED WITH ASSURANCE AND CONVICTION TO WERE HE AS TO GO ,NO ONE CAN TAKE HIM OF THE ROAD WERE HE GO'S,
SEE EVEN GANDHI YOU FIND A CRITICISM BUT NO ADMIRATION AND FIND THE REASON OF HIS SUCCESS.
GANDHI DID MORE THEN ANY SCIENTIST DID FOR MANKIND,
THIS SHOWS YOUR INNER HEART IN POOR CONDITION,
Pierre
Ghandi was also Hindu someone you believe is going to hell
stu you are funnybut you are who you are ,right ?
Who were you replying to?Stuart
stuit was to you Stuart,
it was you quick connection that made say that .
like that as anything to do with anything ,(hell believe)millions of people believe in it but I have only seen one Gandhi in my live
Pierre
I have little idea of what you are saying in this post. Maybe you could try English.But if you read the names at the tops of the little boxes you will see you were replying to BD's post.
Stuart
Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 28 2012,02:53) Quote (Stu @ Jan. 28 2012,02:08) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 27 2012,08:59) Quote (Stu @ Jan. 27 2012,03:22) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 26 2012,12:42) stu Quote More special pleading. You realise that special pleading is a logical fallacy, a statement that philosophy considers cannot be used as a valid argument, don’t you. this comment of yours can be said about most everything we can think of ,even and specially science ,there argument is in constant progress and so devaluate the previous ,all books in history and sciences have to be rewritten ,
Pierre
Nope, sorry. Newer science does not devalue the old, it improves it.Special pleading is the antithesis of science. It is what you claim when you cannot show any evidence and must pretend you have information that was only available to you.
Stuart
stuif it was not for the ones that refuse to accept the false believe that were in place at their time ,
but is this progress ? yea for the new comer,but for the previous 200,or 300,or 500 years prior to that
who cares
Pierre
Newton's theories were not replaced by Einstein's.Quantum physicists use Einstein's work.
Aeronautical engineers use Newton's.
Stuart
stuit seems neither add it right in the gravity theory ,or they only add a part only so to speak ,
but what about the Greeks, mathematicians or the ones before Newton,Einstein
it is funny you do not mention that of those two people both are believers in God ,??
Pierre
Maybe you could get back to us when you know something about what Einstein believed.Stuart
Quote (Stu @ Jan. 29 2012,03:50) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 28 2012,02:57) Quote (Stu @ Jan. 28 2012,02:04) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 27 2012,08:52) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 27 2012,10:40) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 24 2012,08:43) Quote (Stu @ Jan. 24 2012,15:17) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 23 2012,17:13) stu many years ago (55) I would have agreed with you ,but how could you know if some thing works unless you tested or try it ??
you Know I always wander why could GANGHI a 110 lbs five foot man trow out the british empire of his country and he did not use force ,
he said to the british “I love your Christ but I ate your Christians “
well you would not understand it
Pierre
It isn't that I wouldn't understand, it is that I would disagree with Gandhi.In fact I would almost say it the other way round, I love christians but object to christianity.
I agree that the way to find out if something works is to try it, indeed that is a simple way of saying use the scientific method. So, do we know of any problem that can be shown (by trying it) to be solved, universally for all humans, by application of the verses you posted, or indeed any Judeo-christian scriptures.
Stuart
STUno Gandhi ad it right ,you have it wrong,but you can chose to have it wrong don't get me wrong,as a unbeliever you do have the right to commit suicide,
you see being a Christian is nothing like you can think or understand ,
see science sits on chairs and wait to see what 's next ,because they do not know ,they mostly do not understand anything ,this is why they always call it a finding because that s what it is a finding not a calculated understanding ,no a finding and most are by accident,
and after they start to understand what really happen ,they start to see that they only have a small part of what they need to know,and so on and on like a blind man with a white cane ,
NOT SO WITH THE MAN OF GOD, HE KNOWS WERE HE GO'S,
HE KNOW AND IS FED WITH ASSURANCE AND CONVICTION TO WERE HE AS TO GO ,NO ONE CAN TAKE HIM OF THE ROAD WERE HE GO'S,
SEE EVEN GANDHI YOU FIND A CRITICISM BUT NO ADMIRATION AND FIND THE REASON OF HIS SUCCESS.
GANDHI DID MORE THEN ANY SCIENTIST DID FOR MANKIND,
THIS SHOWS YOUR INNER HEART IN POOR CONDITION,
Pierre
Ghandi was also Hindu someone you believe is going to hell
stu you are funnybut you are who you are ,right ?
Who were you replying to?Stuart
stuit was to you Stuart,
it was you quick connection that made say that .
like that as anything to do with anything ,(hell believe)millions of people believe in it but I have only seen one Gandhi in my live
Pierre
I have little idea of what you are saying in this post. Maybe you could try English.But if you read the names at the tops of the little boxes you will see you were replying to BD's post.
Stuart
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