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Quote 4. Eating pigs are unhealthy. (Deut. 14:8) Generalization, any bottom feeding animal is unclean. But Jesus or was it Paul that changed all that didn't he, I believe you use Kepha's vision as a reference, or the passage that what goes into a man's mouth does not defile him it is what comes out. So in general you are permitted to eat anything you want now.
The beauty of it all, if you choose to go by scripture if you eat by the guidelines your safe, if you don't you are still safe. Would that not be considered cherry picking as some call it.
Quote (princess @ June 09 2012,00:05) Quote 4. Eating pigs are unhealthy. (Deut. 14:8) Generalization, any bottom feeding animal is unclean. But Jesus or was it Paul that changed all that didn't he, I believe you use Kepha's vision as a reference, or the passage that what goes into a man's mouth does not defile him it is what comes out. So in general you are permitted to eat anything you want now.
The beauty of it all, if you choose to go by scripture if you eat by the guidelines your safe, if you don't you are still safe. Would that not be considered cherry picking as some call it.
Princess.To understand the spiritual meaning is important.
Eating food,to feed the flesh does not defile a mans spirit.
But what comes out of a mans mouth(as of ill chosen words), defiles the spirit,not the body.To eat the wrong spiritual food does defile a mans spirit.
To eat the wrong food as to feed the flesh,can cause ill health.wakeup.
Quote (Ed J @ June 08 2012,04:15) Hi Stuart, Looks like Science has proven once again
what YHVH has said 4,000+ years ago.How God said to circumcise the male babies on the eighth day.
Science has proven that on the eighth day clotting is highest.
You can continue to turn you back to God that created you
if you like, but surely you are a fool if that is your choice!Here are more things that Science has proven…
1. The Earth was round, not flat. (Isa 40:22)
2. The universe had a beginning. (Gen. 1:1)
3. The universe is expanding. (Isaiah 40:22)
4. Eating pigs are unhealthy. (Deut. 14:8)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Lots of activities “can be unhealthy”. On the other hand, do you know anyone personally who has ever suffered a disease specifically because he or she ate pork?Deuteronomy should also list smoking as something that “can be unhealthy” too. Why doesn't it?
Stuart
Quote (Wakeup @ June 09 2012,00:40) To eat the wrong spiritual food does defile a mans spirit.
And what is “the wrong spiritual food” in your opinion?Stuart
Quote (Stu @ June 08 2012,18:23) Quote (Ed J @ June 08 2012,04:15) Hi Stuart, Looks like Science has proven once again
what YHVH has said 4,000+ years ago.How God said to circumcise the male babies on the eighth day.
Science has proven that on the eighth day clotting is highest.
You can continue to turn you back to God that created you
if you like, but surely you are a fool if that is your choice!Here are more things that Science has proven…
1. The Earth was round, not flat. (Isa 40:22)
2. The universe had a beginning. (Gen. 1:1)
3. The universe is expanding. (Isaiah 40:22)
4. Eating pigs are unhealthy. (Deut. 14:8)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
I guess science is still trying to get up to speed with the following:5. There is a beaten-out solid firmament (raqia) with stars hanging from it (Genesis 1:6-8)
6. When goats look at streaked wooden rods while mating, their offspring end up streaked (Genesis 30:37-39
7. Hares chew their cud (Leviticus 11:6)
8. There are flying creeping animals with four feet (Leviticus 11:23, Deuteronomy 14:7)
10. Bats are actually birds (Deuteronomy 14:18)
11. There is a population of venomous snakes on Malta (Acts 28:4)
12. Dead seeds can germinate (1 Corinthians 15:36)
13. You can stop the rain for over three years by praying (James 5:17)
14. Stars can fall to earth (Revelation 8:10)Stuart
Hi Stuart,I'm glad you do want discuss this! You do
want to discuss these points you make, right?
If you do, I will formulate a response for each point. …tomorrow.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (princess @ June 09 2012,00:05) Quote 4. Eating pigs are unhealthy. (Deut. 14:8) Generalization, any bottom feeding animal is unclean. But Jesus or was it Paul that changed all that didn't he, I believe you use Kepha's vision as a reference, or the passage that what goes into a man's mouth does not defile him it is what comes out. So in general you are permitted to eat anything you want now.
The beauty of it all, if you choose to go by scripture if you eat by the guidelines your safe, if you don't you are still safe. Would that not be considered cherry picking as some call it.
Hi Princess, (see Acts 10:17-20)You have completely missed the message of
Peter's vision of the sheet being lowered from heaven.The message wasn't to change Kosher laws, but to tell those of the
religion of Judaism that the Gentiles are clean because of Christ's sacrifice.עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)
Quote (Stu @ June 09 2012,01:32) Quote (Ed J @ June 08 2012,04:15) Hi Stuart, Looks like Science has proven once again
what YHVH has said 4,000+ years ago.How God said to circumcise the male babies on the eighth day.
Science has proven that on the eighth day clotting is highest.
You can continue to turn you back to God that created you
if you like, but surely you are a fool if that is your choice!Here are more things that Science has proven…
1. The Earth was round, not flat. (Isa 40:22)
2. The universe had a beginning. (Gen. 1:1)
3. The universe is expanding. (Isaiah 40:22)
4. Eating pigs are unhealthy. (Deut. 14:8)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Lots of activities “can be unhealthy”. On the other hand, do you know anyone personally who has ever suffered a disease specifically because he or she ate pork?Deuteronomy should also list smoking as something that “can be unhealthy” too. Why doesn't it?
Stuart
Hi Stuart, there are at least three reasons why “they” were told not to eat pork.1. Pigs are scavenger animals, they eat dead animals including themselves.
2. Pigs do not sweat – mammals sweat to remove toxins from the body.
3. You can easily contract “Trichinosis” by eating undercooked pork.With modern pig farming these concerns are less relevant.
I personally do follow God's Kosher laws for obvious health reasons.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Stu @ June 09 2012,01:33) Quote (Wakeup @ June 09 2012,00:40) To eat the wrong spiritual food does defile a mans spirit.
And what is “the wrong spiritual food” in your opinion?Stuart
Hi Stuart,From what I can gather, it is any theology that Wakeup disagrees with.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ June 09 2012,01:46) Quote (princess @ June 09 2012,00:05) Quote 4. Eating pigs are unhealthy. (Deut. 14:8) Generalization, any bottom feeding animal is unclean. But Jesus or was it Paul that changed all that didn't he, I believe you use Kepha's vision as a reference, or the passage that what goes into a man's mouth does not defile him it is what comes out. So in general you are permitted to eat anything you want now.
The beauty of it all, if you choose to go by scripture if you eat by the guidelines your safe, if you don't you are still safe. Would that not be considered cherry picking as some call it.
Hi Princess, (see Acts 10:17-20)You have completely missed the message of
Peter's vision of the sheet being lowered from heaven.The message wasn't to change Kosher laws, but to tell those of the
religion of Judaism that the Gentiles are clean because of Christ's sacrifice.עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)
No Edj, you missed what I said and also the message.10:28 And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.
It was meant to let Kepha know that any man could come to christ. Segregation become null and void.
However, we could bring up the point, even after the death of Christ, Kepha was still following the law………that's a whole other subject matter though.
Quote Deuteronomy should also list smoking as something that “can be unhealthy” too. Why doesn't it? Most likely due to the smoking of hookah is as ancient as one can get. I believe it was used like having a beer after work concept, for social events ect. ect.
Quote (Stu @ June 09 2012,01:33) Quote (Wakeup @ June 09 2012,00:40) To eat the wrong spiritual food does defile a mans spirit.
And what is “the wrong spiritual food” in your opinion?Stuart
Stu.Worshipping other Gods,witchcraft,worshipping things made by mans hands,such as technology,sport etc.
Consistend swearing defiles a man.
wakeup.
Quote (WhatIsTrue @ June 07 2012,02:38) Quote (journey42 @ June 06 2012,14:49) Daniel 2:37-40
Daniel 2:41-43 is in progress right now as we speak, soon to be fulfilled.If you read on, it will reveal who these kingdom's are up to a certain point. They agree perfectly with history.
You keep saying that these prophecies agree perfectly with history but you haven't even said what historical events you are are referencing.Do you understand what the word “specific” means? I haven't the foggiest clue what you take those verses to mean. Wakeup has given one interpretation and Ed J has given another. Am I supposed to somehow guess what's in your head?
Let's try this one last time.
Who or what is this kingdom that is about to be destroyed and when is it going to happen?
King Neb was the king of Babylon.
Babylon was conquered by the Medo Persians.
The Medo Persians conquered by Greece
Alexander the Great died
His kingdom was divided between his four generals
out of one them came up the Roman Empire
Roman empire was not conquered, but faded out.
The british empire came up, but was not mentioned, because it falls under the roman still – same system, democracyThe next kingdom to come and rule will consist of 10 kings. They are about to emerge in the next couple of years. These 10 will unite as one. This is the toes in daniels image. Out of one of them will emerge a leader. This leader will be secular and spiritual. He will do amazing things,(see rev 13) and the world will love him. God calls him the king of the North (North of Jerusalem) They did not use NW or NE etc in those days. By what is going on in the world, it is looking like this new kingdom will be Europe, as this leader will control the economy also. He will change laws and times. He also deceives the whole world, and deceitfully claims he is God with his lying wonders and miracles. He will speak great things against the Most High. He is a man made out of flesh and blood, and the world call him the antichrist, but God calls him the false prophet or the Son of Perdition. He will lead this new kingdom and his main agenda is to kill Christians. He will bring out a new system that no man can buy or sell without this mark he will issue on the forehead, or right hand. The real christian will refuse this mark and suffer persecution. The concentration camps are built and ready to go. Look up FEMA camps. Without this mark we cannot buy or sell anything. The world will have no other choice but to receive this mark. Most of the churches will receive the mark as well, as they have many riches. The christians who refuse will be put in jail or killed by beheading. This is the great tribulation for all christians, but their reward is around the corner.
This will happen as foretold, that the world hate God, and any one who follows him. A lot of christians don't realise that this is going to happen, because they are just told nice things by their pastors. They will be deceived also. We who follow will all be murdered by wicked men in high places.
Quote (Ed J @ June 09 2012,01:58) Quote (Stu @ June 09 2012,01:32) Quote (Ed J @ June 08 2012,04:15) Hi Stuart, Looks like Science has proven once again
what YHVH has said 4,000+ years ago.How God said to circumcise the male babies on the eighth day.
Science has proven that on the eighth day clotting is highest.
You can continue to turn you back to God that created you
if you like, but surely you are a fool if that is your choice!Here are more things that Science has proven…
1. The Earth was round, not flat. (Isa 40:22)
2. The universe had a beginning. (Gen. 1:1)
3. The universe is expanding. (Isaiah 40:22)
4. Eating pigs are unhealthy. (Deut. 14:8)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Lots of activities “can be unhealthy”. On the other hand, do you know anyone personally who has ever suffered a disease specifically because he or she ate pork?Deuteronomy should also list smoking as something that “can be unhealthy” too. Why doesn't it?
Stuart
Hi Stuart, there are at least three reasons why “they” were told not to eat pork.1. Pigs are scavenger animals, they eat dead animals including themselves.
2. Pigs do not sweat – mammals sweat to remove toxins from the body.
3. You can easily contract “Trichinosis” by eating undercooked pork.With modern pig farming these concerns are less relevant.
I personally do follow God's Kosher laws for obvious health reasons.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Do you know anyone personally who has suffered a disease specifically because of eating pork?Why does Deuteronomy not warn against smoking, which kills far more of those who indulge in it than pork eating ever claimed?
Stuart
Quote (Wakeup @ June 09 2012,11:54) Quote (Stu @ June 09 2012,01:33) Quote (Wakeup @ June 09 2012,00:40) To eat the wrong spiritual food does defile a mans spirit.
And what is “the wrong spiritual food” in your opinion?Stuart
Stu.Worshipping other Gods,
I don't worship any god, so no risk there.Quote witchcraft,
Not I.Quote worshipping things made by mans hands,such as technology,sport etc.
Rugby Union Football is New Zealand's national religion, but I don't partake in any worship of any of its deities.Quote Consistend swearing defiles a man.
My swearing is damn inconsistent. I swear one minute and don't the next. No problem there.Looks like I'm pretty spiritually clean!
Stuart
Quote (Ed J @ June 09 2012,02:01) Quote (Stu @ June 09 2012,01:33) Quote (Wakeup @ June 09 2012,00:40) To eat the wrong spiritual food does defile a mans spirit.
And what is “the wrong spiritual food” in your opinion?Stuart
Hi Stuart,From what I can gather, it is any theology that Wakeup disagrees with.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Quote (Wakeup @ June 09 2012,00:40) Quote (princess @ June 09 2012,00:05) Quote 4. Eating pigs are unhealthy. (Deut. 14:8) Generalization, any bottom feeding animal is unclean. But Jesus or was it Paul that changed all that didn't he, I believe you use Kepha's vision as a reference, or the passage that what goes into a man's mouth does not defile him it is what comes out. So in general you are permitted to eat anything you want now.
The beauty of it all, if you choose to go by scripture if you eat by the guidelines your safe, if you don't you are still safe. Would that not be considered cherry picking as some call it.
Princess.To understand the spiritual meaning is important.
Eating food,to feed the flesh does not defile a mans spirit.
But what comes out of a mans mouth(as of ill chosen words), defiles the spirit,not the body.To eat the wrong spiritual food does defile a mans spirit.
To eat the wrong food as to feed the flesh,can cause ill health.wakeup.
For the lack of better terms “You are what you eat”.I also agree that if something is repetitively heard it will be absorb in ones' mind.
This method has been used by one studying for a test, calming music to a child within the womb, propaganda of war, physiological warfare.I do disagree that if the spirit is defiled the body is not, due to what is upon ones heart will be shown through the physical.
Quote (Wakeup @ June 07 2012,14:48) Quote (Ed J @ June 06 2012,21:24) Hi WIT, Please study this post carefully: YHVH has indeed Prophesied future events 2000+ years ago.
Private interpretations(2Peter 1:20) of Prophecy is to be avoided; here's historical fulfillment.
THE GREAT RIDDLE “the beast that was, and is not, and yet is” HAS FINALLY BEEN SOLVED!Rev 17:8 “the beast that was(Rev.13:1-3), and is not(Rev.12:3), and yet is(Rev.17:3).”
Rev 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition:
and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from
the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.In order to understand the red dragon of Rev.12:3, we must first look at the beast of Rev.13:1-3 in historical context.
Rev.13:1-2 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea (of people: Rev.17:15),
having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the
mouth of a lion (1Pt.5:8): and the dragon (Revelation 12:3) gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.Head 1: Egypt -one head -one horn -one crown
Head 2: Assyrian -one head -one horn -one crown
Head of gold: Head 3: Babylon -one head -one horn -one crown …Lion (Daniel 7:4)
Arms of silver: Head 4: Medo-Persians -one head -one horn -one crown …Bear (Daniel 7:5)
Thighs of brass: Head 5: Greeks -one head -four horns -four crowns …Leopard (Daniel 7:6)
Feet of iron & clay: Head 6: Roman -one head -one horn -one crown …ten horns (Daniel 7:7-8)
Head 7: Ottoman -one head -one horn -one crown
Then it suffered a deadly wound:
Muhammad did not have a world empire,
but Mahammudin-islam is a resurgence of
the beast with the deadly wound. (Rev.13:3)Muhammadin islam is the eithth and of the seventh: and this whole world system is going to go into perdition.
All of those countries are islamic now. You need to read Psalm Chapter 83 to better understand this. (Rev.17:11)First this leopard beast looses “-THREE CROWNS” and the camouflage spots exposing it as the great red dragon of Rev.12:3:
Revelation 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven;
and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and
ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.The quran prophecy
The beast: Rev.13:11(Muhammad), causeth all to worship
the first beast before him: Rev.13:1-3(the leopard beast)Rev 13:13-14 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast;
saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
Next this great red dragon looses “-THE REST OF THE CROWNS” and the spirit of antichrist's plan of world conquest is fully exposed:
Revelation 17:3 “I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast,
full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.”islam is the kingdom of the antichrist! (Link)
Witnessing to a worldwide audience in behalf of YHVH!
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
עד Ed (Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14 / Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)
Edj.Your teacher is in error,and you faithfully follow.
Error one;the lion with wings in daniel is the kingdom of babylon,from here everything has gone wrong.
He has taken the wrong road,and is lost.The super power today is the US. and the west,not the arab nations.The arabs(muslems) always looking to the west for help.The economy is in the hands of the west.
English is the world language; computers and all electronics,and the business world all done in english.The world currency is the mighty Dollar,the green bag.
the seventh empire is now the west;not the east.
The eight is coming out of the seventh( the west),not the east.EU,means european union,not arab union.
The EU is of 27 nations,(no arab nation included) and is now falling apart,and will only leave 10,as prophesied in revelation.
It will be mighty; and then the man of perdition will show himself and take over power.For God has put it in their hearts to give their power to the beast(2horned beast).rev17:17.
Any objections please state.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,My objection is that you will not consider my post to be true.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Stu @ June 09 2012,22:50) Quote (Ed J @ June 09 2012,01:58) Quote (Stu @ June 09 2012,01:32) Quote (Ed J @ June 08 2012,04:15) Hi Stuart, Looks like Science has proven once again
what YHVH has said 4,000+ years ago.How God said to circumcise the male babies on the eighth day.
Science has proven that on the eighth day clotting is highest.
You can continue to turn you back to God that created you
if you like, but surely you are a fool if that is your choice!Here are more things that Science has proven…
1. The Earth was round, not flat. (Isa 40:22)
2. The universe had a beginning. (Gen. 1:1)
3. The universe is expanding. (Isaiah 40:22)
4. Eating pigs are unhealthy. (Deut. 14:8)God bless
Ed J
Lots of activities “can be unhealthy”. On the other hand, do you know anyone personally who has ever suffered a disease specifically because he or she ate pork?Deuteronomy should also list smoking as something that “can be unhealthy” too. Why doesn't it?
Stuart
Hi Stuart, there are at least three reasons why “they” were told not to eat pork.1. Pigs are scavenger animals, they eat dead animals including themselves.
2. Pigs do not sweat – mammals sweat to remove toxins from the body.
3. You can easily contract “Trichinosis” by eating undercooked pork.With modern pig farming these concerns are less relevant.
I personally do follow God's Kosher laws for obvious health reasons.God bless
Ed J
(A)Do you know anyone personally who has suffered a disease specifically because of eating pork?(B)Why does Deuteronomy not warn against smoking, which kills far more of those who indulge in it than pork eating ever claimed?
Stuart
Hi Stuart,A) No
B) I assume you mean tobacco cigarettes.
It is all the additives in them: especially the radiated soil that
they are grown in (in Virgina and the Carolinas) that causes Cancer and Emphysema.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (journey42 @ June 09 2012,15:34) The next kingdom to come and rule will consist of 10 kings. They are about to emerge in the next couple of years. … By what is going on in the world, it is looking like this new kingdom will be Europe, as this leader will control the economy also. He will change laws and times. He also deceives the whole world, and deceitfully claims he is God with his lying wonders and miracles. He will speak great things against the Most High. He is a man made out of flesh and blood, and the world call him the antichrist, but God calls him the false prophet or the Son of Perdition. He will lead this new kingdom and his main agenda is to kill Christians. He will bring out a new system that no man can buy or sell without this mark he will issue on the forehead, or right hand. The real christian will refuse this mark and suffer persecution. The concentration camps are built and ready to go. Look up FEMA camps. Without this mark we cannot buy or sell anything. The world will have no other choice but to receive this mark. Most of the churches will receive the mark as well, as they have many riches. The christians who refuse will be put in jail or killed by beheading. This is the great tribulation for all christians, but their reward is around the corner.
Still not as specific as I would like, but it will do.Let's focus on the time frame, (i.e. “in the next couple of years”). What will you do if in ten years nothing like this has happened? Will you denounce the bible as a fraud?
(By the way, do you know how many times people have predicted that this kind of stuff was going to happen in the next couple of years?!?!?!!?)
Quote (Ed J @ June 07 2012,06:10) Hi WIT, You did not comment on my synopsis? …will you please do so?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Look at Journey's synopsis. Then look at Wakeup's synopsis. I bet that I could find ten more different interpretations if I cared to google it.The bottomline: passages so vague that ten different people have eleven different interpretations aren't even worthy of consideration as “prophecies”.
For more examples of this (that you will actually accept), see how the works of Nostradamus have been abused in this regard.
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