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Quote (journey42 @ June 06 2012,10:15) In the meantime, look up what state Israel is in today.
So let's test your history against prophecy:The modern state of Israel was formed because:
A. A zionist prophecy from the Jewish bible, unknown to most people
Quote (journey42 @ June 06 2012,10:15) In the meantime, look up what state Israel is in today.
Arrghhhh…… damn return key.Attempt two:
So let's test your history against prophecy:
The modern state of Israel was formed because:
A. A prophecy from the Jewish bible, unknown to most people, was enacted through the mystery of god
B. The British occupation of Palestine led to them aiding zionist ambitions in which the “chosen people” identified themselves as such and claimed their rightful real estate, thereby fulfilling what they thought was their destiny, and causing unparalleled tension in the region.
Modern Israel survives:
A. Because it is the fulfillment of prophecy
B. Because American evangelicals insist that the US aids in the nuclear defense of Israel, in the hope that eventually the whole powder keg will go up, thus fulfilling escatological prophecies.
Was it fulfillment of prophecy if you read it then make it happen because you read about it?
When the religious nutcases have finished with the planet, can we non-deluded people please have it back? Even if it is a little scorched around its four corners (Rev 7:1)?
Stuart
Quote (Ed J @ June 06 2012,03:49) You can have your opinion as can everyone else.
It's not my opinion, Ed, it's the conclusions of the scholars who know something about it.I couldn't care less whether you could make an historical case for knowing what Jesus said or did, it makes no difference to me, but as it happens you cannot.
Don't let reality slow you down though, will you.
Stuart
Quote (WhatIsTrue @ June 06 2012,14:01) Quote (journey42 @ June 06 2012,05:15) I only gave a few scriptures, for if I gave them all at once, this would turn into a 20 page reply. If I give you my own words, you will say I am making it up. Have to go slow.
I'm not asking for all the details. I am asking for one specific event, and a time frame. Otherwise, you are just giving vague horoscope nonsense that can mean anything when looked at in hindsight.One event. Narrow the time frame. Be specific.
Hi What is TrueOK this one has been fulfilled except the last part which is to come soon.
Daniel 2:37-40
Daniel 2:41-43 is in progress right now as we speak, soon to be fulfilled.If you read on, it will reveal who these kingdom's are up to a certain point. They agree perfectly with history.
So basically, we have Daniel interpreting the king Nebs dream.
The image shows us through God's eyes, the major empires that will come after Neb. We have the image starting with the kingdom of Babylon right through to the last kingdom to exist at the coming of Christ. We are at that stage now, awaiting for this last kingdom to arise, which will be destroyed at Christ's coming.You can read for yourself, because it's too much to type out. Then you can ask me questions, and I will gladly answer.
Quote (Stu @ June 06 2012,15:03) Quote (Ed J @ June 06 2012,03:54) Quote (WhatIsTrue @ June 06 2012,03:32) Exodus 4:24-26
And it came to pass on the way, at the encampment, that the Lord met him and sought to kill him. Then Zipporah took a sharp stone and cut off the foreskin of her son and cast it at Moses’ feet, and said, “Surely you are a husband of blood to me!” So He let him go. Then she said, “You are a husband of blood!”—because of the circumcision.No hurt child here, right? I am sure that an impromptu circumcision is like going out for an ice cream sundae.
Hi WIT,Right now, the only known prevention of cervical cancer in women
is the circumcision of those males having intercourse with them.God bless
Ed J
Here are three ways you are wrong:The vaccine Gardasil immunises against the human papillomavirus, which is responsible for 70% of cervical cancers, thus giving a much more effective preventative measure than any effect from circumcision.
Stuart
Hi Stuart,Do you have any proof of this?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Stu @ June 06 2012,15:12) Quote (journey42 @ June 06 2012,10:15) In the meantime, look up what state Israel is in today.
So let's test your history against prophecy:The modern state of Israel was formed because:
A. A zionist prophecy from the Jewish bible, unknown to most people
Hi Stuart,It was YHVH's prophecy, not mans!
Why would anyone proclaim punishments
against themselves; get real Stuart, REALLY!
Convenient 'spin' on your part, wouldn't you say?“Who hath heard such a thing? …shall a nation be born at once?” (Isaiah 66:8)
Yet that Prophecy is exactly what happened as Israel was re-born as a nation!God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHi WIT,
Please study this post carefully: YHVH has indeed Prophesied future events 2000+ years ago.
Private interpretations(2Peter 1:20) of Prophecy is to be avoided; here's historical fulfillment.
THE GREAT RIDDLE “the beast that was, and is not, and yet is” HAS FINALLY BEEN SOLVED!Rev 17:8 “the beast that was(Rev.13:1-3), and is not(Rev.12:3), and yet is(Rev.17:3).”
Rev 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition:
and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from
the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.In order to understand the red dragon of Rev.12:3, we must first look at the beast of Rev.13:1-3 in historical context.
Rev.13:1-2 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea (of people: Rev.17:15),
having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the
mouth of a lion (1Pt.5:8): and the dragon (Revelation 12:3) gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.Head 1: Egypt -one head -one horn -one crown
Head 2: Assyrian -one head -one horn -one crown
Head of gold: Head 3: Babylon -one head -one horn -one crown …Lion (Daniel 7:4)
Arms of silver: Head 4: Medo-Persians -one head -one horn -one crown …Bear (Daniel 7:5)
Thighs of brass: Head 5: Greeks -one head -four horns -four crowns …Leopard (Daniel 7:6)
Feet of iron & clay: Head 6: Roman -one head -one horn -one crown …ten horns (Daniel 7:7-8)
Head 7: Ottoman -one head -one horn -one crown
Then it suffered a deadly wound:
Muhammad did not have a world empire,
but Mahammudin-islam is a resurgence of
the beast with the deadly wound. (Rev.13:3)Muhammadin islam is the eithth and of the seventh: and this whole world system is going to go into perdition.
All of those countries are islamic now. You need to read Psalm Chapter 83 to better understand this. (Rev.17:11)First this leopard beast looses “-THREE CROWNS” and the camouflage spots exposing it as the great red dragon of Rev.12:3:
Revelation 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven;
and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and
ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.The quran prophecy
The beast: Rev.13:11(Muhammad), causeth all to worship
the first beast before him: Rev.13:1-3(the leopard beast)Rev 13:13-14 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast;
saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
Next this great red dragon looses “-THE REST OF THE CROWNS” and the spirit of antichrist's plan of world conquest is fully exposed:
Revelation 17:3 “I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast,
full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.”islam is the kingdom of the antichrist! (Link)
Witnessing to a worldwide audience in behalf of YHVH!
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
עד Ed (Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14 / Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)Quote (Ed J @ June 06 2012,20:53) Quote (Stu @ June 06 2012,15:12) Quote (journey42 @ June 06 2012,10:15) In the meantime, look up what state Israel is in today.
So let's test your history against prophecy:The modern state of Israel was formed because:
A. A zionist prophecy from the Jewish bible, unknown to most people
Hi Stuart,It was YHVH's prophecy, not mans!
Why would anyone proclaim punishments
against themselves; get real Stuart, REALLY!
Convenient 'spin' on your part, wouldn't you say?“Who hath heard such a thing? …shall a nation be born at once?” (Isaiah 66:8)
Yet that Prophecy is exactly what happened as Israel was re-born as a nation!God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Edj.Good point ed.
wakeup.
Quote (journey42 @ June 06 2012,14:49) Daniel 2:37-40
Daniel 2:41-43 is in progress right now as we speak, soon to be fulfilled.If you read on, it will reveal who these kingdom's are up to a certain point. They agree perfectly with history.
You keep saying that these prophecies agree perfectly with history but you haven't even said what historical events you are are referencing.Do you understand what the word “specific” means? I haven't the foggiest clue what you take those verses to mean. Wakeup has given one interpretation and Ed J has given another. Am I supposed to somehow guess what's in your head?
Let's try this one last time.
Who or what is this kingdom that is about to be destroyed and when is it going to happen?
Hi WIT,
You did not comment on my synopsis? …will you please do so?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEd wrote:[/quote]
Quote It was YHVH's prophecy, not mans!
Why would anyone proclaim punishments
against themselves; get real Stuart, REALLY!
Convenient 'spin' on your part, wouldn't you say?Well said Ed.
Quote (Ed J @ June 06 2012,21:24) Hi WIT, Please study this post carefully: YHVH has indeed Prophesied future events 2000+ years ago.
Private interpretations(2Peter 1:20) of Prophecy is to be avoided; here's historical fulfillment.
THE GREAT RIDDLE “the beast that was, and is not, and yet is” HAS FINALLY BEEN SOLVED!Rev 17:8 “the beast that was(Rev.13:1-3), and is not(Rev.12:3), and yet is(Rev.17:3).”
Rev 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition:
and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from
the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.In order to understand the red dragon of Rev.12:3, we must first look at the beast of Rev.13:1-3 in historical context.
Rev.13:1-2 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea (of people: Rev.17:15),
having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the
mouth of a lion (1Pt.5:8): and the dragon (Revelation 12:3) gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.Head 1: Egypt -one head -one horn -one crown
Head 2: Assyrian -one head -one horn -one crown
Head of gold: Head 3: Babylon -one head -one horn -one crown …Lion (Daniel 7:4)
Arms of silver: Head 4: Medo-Persians -one head -one horn -one crown …Bear (Daniel 7:5)
Thighs of brass: Head 5: Greeks -one head -four horns -four crowns …Leopard (Daniel 7:6)
Feet of iron & clay: Head 6: Roman -one head -one horn -one crown …ten horns (Daniel 7:7-8)
Head 7: Ottoman -one head -one horn -one crown
Then it suffered a deadly wound:
Muhammad did not have a world empire,
but Mahammudin-islam is a resurgence of
the beast with the deadly wound. (Rev.13:3)Muhammadin islam is the eithth and of the seventh: and this whole world system is going to go into perdition.
All of those countries are islamic now. You need to read Psalm Chapter 83 to better understand this. (Rev.17:11)First this leopard beast looses “-THREE CROWNS” and the camouflage spots exposing it as the great red dragon of Rev.12:3:
Revelation 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven;
and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and
ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.The quran prophecy
The beast: Rev.13:11(Muhammad), causeth all to worship
the first beast before him: Rev.13:1-3(the leopard beast)Rev 13:13-14 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast;
saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
Next this great red dragon looses “-THE REST OF THE CROWNS” and the spirit of antichrist's plan of world conquest is fully exposed:
Revelation 17:3 “I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast,
full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.”islam is the kingdom of the antichrist! (Link)
Witnessing to a worldwide audience in behalf of YHVH!
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
עד Ed (Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14 / Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)
Edj.Your teacher is in error,and you faithfully follow.
Error one;the lion with wings in daniel is the kingdom of babylon,from here everything has gone wrong.
He has taken the wrong road,and is lost.The super power today is the US. and the west,not the arab nations.The arabs(muslems) always looking to the west for help.The economy is in the hands of the west.
English is the world language; computers and all electronics,and the business world all done in english.The world currency is the mighty Dollar,the green bag.
the seventh empire is now the west;not the east.
The eight is coming out of the seventh( the west),not the east.EU,means european union,not arab union.
The EU is of 27 nations,(no arab nation included) and is now falling apart,and will only leave 10,as prophesied in revelation.
It will be mighty; and then the man of perdition will show himself and take over power.For God has put it in their hearts to give their power to the beast(2horned beast).rev17:17.
Any objections please state.
wakeup.
Quote (Ed J @ June 06 2012,20:35) Quote (Stu @ June 06 2012,15:03) Quote (Ed J @ June 06 2012,03:54) Quote (WhatIsTrue @ June 06 2012,03:32) Exodus 4:24-26
And it came to pass on the way, at the encampment, that the Lord met him and sought to kill him. Then Zipporah took a sharp stone and cut off the foreskin of her son and cast it at Moses’ feet, and said, “Surely you are a husband of blood to me!” So He let him go. Then she said, “You are a husband of blood!”—because of the circumcision.No hurt child here, right? I am sure that an impromptu circumcision is like going out for an ice cream sundae.
Hi WIT,Right now, the only known prevention of cervical cancer in women
is the circumcision of those males having intercourse with them.God bless
Ed J
Here are three ways you are wrong:The vaccine Gardasil immunises against the human papillomavirus, which is responsible for 70% of cervical cancers, thus giving a much more effective preventative measure than any effect from circumcision.
Stuart
Hi Stuart,Do you have any proof of this?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
You first…Stuart
Quote (Ed J @ June 06 2012,20:53) Quote (Stu @ June 06 2012,15:12) Quote (journey42 @ June 06 2012,10:15) In the meantime, look up what state Israel is in today.
So let's test your history against prophecy:The modern state of Israel was formed because:
A. A zionist prophecy from the Jewish bible, unknown to most people
Hi Stuart,It was YHVH's prophecy, not mans!
Why would anyone proclaim punishments
against themselves; get real Stuart, REALLY!
Convenient 'spin' on your part, wouldn't you say?“Who hath heard such a thing? …shall a nation be born at once?” (Isaiah 66:8)
Yet that Prophecy is exactly what happened as Israel was re-born as a nation!God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Did you consider the second version of my post? That first one was accidentally posted prematurely.I blamed the return key for that mistake, but it was operator incompetence actually.
Just like with god!
Stuart
Apologetics answer for Stu's apparent mistake.
It was not a mistake, Stu was merely testing you.Just like God.
Tim
HI Stuart, (Link)
The 8 best reasons for routine newborn male circumcision
8. Circumcision decreases the risk of urinary tract infection.
7. Circumcision reduces the risk of heterosexually acquired HIV infection in men.
6. Circumcision lowers the risk of STDs.
5. Circumcision protects against penile cancer.
4. Circumcision reduces the risk of penile HPV infection and the risk of cervical cancer in female partners.
3. Circumcision prevents chlamydia infections and subsequent pelvic inflammatory disease, ectopic pregnancy and infertility.
2. Circumcision decreases the risk of balanoposthitis and phimosis and the later need for postneonatal circumcision.
1. Circumcision improves sexual function and creativity.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHi Stuart, Looks like Science has proven once again
what YHVH has said 4,000+ years ago.How God said to circumcise the male babies on the eighth day.
Science has proven that on the eighth day clotting is highest.
You can continue to turn you back to God that created you
if you like, but surely you are a fool if that is your choice!Here are more things that Science has proven…
1. The Earth was round, not flat. (Isa 40:22)
2. The universe had a beginning. (Gen. 1:1)
3. The universe is expanding. (Isaiah 40:22)
4. Eating pigs are unhealthy. (Deut. 14:8)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ June 08 2012,04:01) HI Stuart, (Link) The 8 best reasons for routine newborn male circumcision
8. Circumcision decreases the risk of urinary tract infection.
7. Circumcision reduces the risk of heterosexually acquired HIV infection in men.
6. Circumcision lowers the risk of STDs.
5. Circumcision protects against penile cancer.
4. Circumcision reduces the risk of penile HPV infection and the risk of cervical cancer in female partners.
3. Circumcision prevents chlamydia infections and subsequent pelvic inflammatory disease, ectopic pregnancy and infertility.
2. Circumcision decreases the risk of balanoposthitis and phimosis and the later need for postneonatal circumcision.
1. Circumcision improves sexual function and creativity.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Looks like the creator didn't do as good a job of the penis as we can.Stuart
Quote (Stu @ June 08 2012,17:22) Quote (Ed J @ June 08 2012,04:01) HI Stuart, (Link) The 8 best reasons for routine newborn male circumcision
8. Circumcision decreases the risk of urinary tract infection.
7. Circumcision reduces the risk of heterosexually acquired HIV infection in men.
6. Circumcision lowers the risk of STDs.
5. Circumcision protects against penile cancer.
4. Circumcision reduces the risk of penile HPV infection and the risk of cervical cancer in female partners.
3. Circumcision prevents chlamydia infections and subsequent pelvic inflammatory disease, ectopic pregnancy and infertility.
2. Circumcision decreases the risk of balanoposthitis and phimosis and the later need for postneonatal circumcision.
1. Circumcision improves sexual function and creativity.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Looks like the creator didn't do as good a job of the penis as we can.Stuart
Ha Ha haQuote (Ed J @ June 08 2012,04:15) Hi Stuart, Looks like Science has proven once again
what YHVH has said 4,000+ years ago.How God said to circumcise the male babies on the eighth day.
Science has proven that on the eighth day clotting is highest.
You can continue to turn you back to God that created you
if you like, but surely you are a fool if that is your choice!Here are more things that Science has proven…
1. The Earth was round, not flat. (Isa 40:22)
2. The universe had a beginning. (Gen. 1:1)
3. The universe is expanding. (Isaiah 40:22)
4. Eating pigs are unhealthy. (Deut. 14:8)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
I guess science is still trying to get up to speed with the following:5. There is a beaten-out solid firmament (raqia) with stars hanging from it (Genesis 1:6-8)
6. When goats look at streaked wooden rods while mating, their offspring end up streaked (Genesis 30:37-39
7. Hares chew their cud (Leviticus 11:6)
8. There are flying creeping animals with four feet (Leviticus 11:23, Deuteronomy 14:7)
10. Bats are actually birds (Deuteronomy 14:18)
11. There is a population of venomous snakes on Malta (Acts 28:4)
12. Dead seeds can germinate (1 Corinthians 15:36)
13. You can stop the rain for over three years by praying (James 5:17)
14. Stars can fall to earth (Revelation 8:10)Stuart
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