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Quote (journey42 @ Feb. 02 2013,13:46) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 02 2013,13:33) Quote (journey42 @ Feb. 02 2013,13:11) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 02 2013,07:13) Wow, this thread looks like this thread.
Are you going to start a new thread every time
others show why they disagree with your conclusions?
EdThose old threads are dead. You guys did not understand it then, and great length was taken to explain to you. The word is still alive, and it has not died. It continues to flow. You try to put it back in the corner but it doesn't work like that.
Hi Journey42,What is that suppose to mean?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdYour ego exceeds you.
EdYou are saying, don't talk about it here, only talk about it there. You are putting us in a corner. If we want to talk right here right now on this thread, we will. It has to flow.
Quote (journey42 @ Feb. 02 2013,13:37) Quote (2besee @ Feb. 02 2013,13:14) Quote (journey42 @ Feb. 02 2013,15:11) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 02 2013,07:13) Wow, this thread looks like this thread.
Are you going to start a new thread every time
others show why they disagree with your conclusions?
EdThose old threads are dead. You guys did not understand it then, and great length was taken to explain to you. The word is still alive, and it has not died. It continues to flow. You try to put it back in the corner but it doesn't work like that.
Hi Journey,
And vice versa.Let me ask you three, do you believe that only you three have the absolute truth in the world today?
Hi 2Besse,No, there are 144,000 in total to be precise.
Hi Journey42,Seems you're missing some.
“And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne
(of God) and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was
ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands;”
(10,000 x 10,000 = 100,000,000, and thousands of thousands) (Rev 5:11)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgWow, Journey, they are “”leading men to their deaths””?? Really? That is a huge statement for you to make. Millions of Adventists have been led to death?
I disagree.
And, you never answered my earlier post.
I will say it again:
..it seems that according to you three, every single person who has ever come to know God in times past and today were not in truth at all, and will need to be retaught – by (you?) sometime future despite there being seen before the throne of God a number too numerous to count from out of every tribe, tongue, nation and people.
A number too numerous for any man to count.
Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 02 2013,13:48) Quote (journey42 @ Feb. 02 2013,13:37) Quote (2besee @ Feb. 02 2013,13:14) Quote (journey42 @ Feb. 02 2013,15:11) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 02 2013,07:13) Wow, this thread looks like this thread.
Are you going to start a new thread every time
others show why they disagree with your conclusions?
EdThose old threads are dead. You guys did not understand it then, and great length was taken to explain to you. The word is still alive, and it has not died. It continues to flow. You try to put it back in the corner but it doesn't work like that.
Hi Journey,
And vice versa.Let me ask you three, do you believe that only you three have the absolute truth in the world today?
Hi 2Besse,No, there are 144,000 in total to be precise.
Hi Journey42,Seems you're missing some.
“And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne
(of God) and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was
ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands;”
(10,000 x 10,000 = 100,000,000, and thousands of thousands) (Rev 5:11)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdThat's the number of angels only.
Quote (journey42 @ Feb. 02 2013,13:46) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 02 2013,13:33) Quote (journey42 @ Feb. 02 2013,13:11) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 02 2013,07:13) Wow, this thread looks like this thread.
Are you going to start a new thread every time
others show why they disagree with your conclusions?
EdThose old threads are dead. You guys did not understand it then, and great length was taken to explain to you. The word is still alive, and it has not died. It continues to flow. You try to put it back in the corner but it doesn't work like that.
Hi Journey42,What is that suppose to mean?
God bless
Ed J
EdYour ego exceeds you.
Hi Wakeup,I don't have an 'ego', I killed it long ago.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (journey42 @ Feb. 02 2013,13:48) Ed You are saying, don't talk about it here, only talk about it there. You are putting us in a corner. If we want to talk right here right now on this thread, we will. It has to flow.
Hi Journey42,Are you saying that you were talking wrong in the other thread?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (2besee @ Feb. 02 2013,13:49) Wow, Journey, they are “”leading men to their deaths””?? Really? That is a huge statement for you to make. Millions of Adventists have been led to death? I disagree.
And, you never answered my earlier post.
I will say it again:
..it seems that according to you three, every single person who has ever come to know God in times past and today were not in truth at all, and will need to be retaught – by (you?) sometime future despite there being seen before the throne of God a number too numerous to count from out of every tribe, tongue, nation and people.
A number too numerous for any man to count.
2Besee.You dont know that the top leaders of the sda have been paid lump somes of money to preach the wrong thing.THEY WILL ACCEPT THE REAL NUMBER AND REJECT THE WRONG SUNDAY MARK.
Born again christians with their imaginary wings are happy with the doctrine they have received.
Sorry to disapoint you;but only a LITTLE FLOCK will be accepted.For many are called but a FEW chosen.A FEW means a FEW.
wakeup.
2besee,Feb. wrote:[/quote]
Hi 2BesseQuote
Wow, Journey, they are “”leading men to their deaths””?? Really? That is a huge statement for you to make. Millions of Adventists have been led to death?I disagree.
Yes the SDA are leading men to their deaths. To a spiritual death. This is a very strong statement I agree.
I will tell you why;
because they are programming their followers, those who are genuine and seeking the truth, to accept the mark of the beast.
For they say it is a spiritual mark, depending on who you worship, and has nothing to do with buying or selling (trade).
So in their eyes, it is not a physical mark, despite the system ready and waiting to go. So they, those shepherds of the SDA, are leading their flock to the slaughter.
But Christ tells us whoever will save his life will loose it, and whoever looses it for my sake will save it. It seems most think these words only refer to sin, but he is telling us something deeper here, one that the apostles would come to understand, and one the 144,000 already understand (because knowledge has increased) and all those who finally get it at the last hour. When they understand this, they will finally be singing the same song, the ones the 144,000 already knew long ago, that song, and these were labouring hard trying to warn the lost sheep that we must all follow the lamb wheresoever he goes, and the lamb also went through the valley of death and was persecuted because of his love for the Father, so we must likewise follow him there too.We in the last days can see how far technology has come. There were no jet planes, and nuclear bombs or even guns in the days of the apostles. It would of been hard for them picture exactly how events would come about. They only fought with swords in those days. They did not experience the technology we have today. We see clearer. We have the internet also and media, we can see what is going on. Many are doing exploits. We are finding out about the wicked rich in the background and their conspiracy's are surfacing. Knowledge is increasing. There is more access to it now.
Quote And, you never answered my earlier post. I will say it again:
..it seems that according to you three, every single person who has ever come to know God in times past and today were not in truth at all, and will need to be retaught – by (you?) sometime future despite there being seen before the throne of God a number too numerous to count from out of every tribe, tongue, nation and people.
A number too numerous for any man to count.
No that is not true. There are many that have received the full truth, and most only part. Every man given a different measure according to his labour and the period of when he was born. We are in the last days now 2Besse, evil has multiplied to the maximum. There are more religions based on the bible then what there has ever been. The enemy has come into the congregation to decieve the sheep, because the devil knows that his time is short. He will take as many with him as he can. These ones he has in the palm of his hand, but the ones with the full truth, he will send a flood after. We know so much more today than what they would of known in the past. The picture is more clear now than it has ever been, because the beast and the false prophet will use technology and the occult to decieve. Many christians are engaging in the occult without even knowing it. The SDA is only one of the religions set up by the occult. The illuminati. They want the same outcome. This preaching of Christ for the shepherds is sugar coated. The roots are wicked, and the shepherds are used for hire. Find out what they are doing behind closed doors. Seek and ye will find, and what we tell you will make more sense.Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 02 2013,15:17) Quote (2besee @ Feb. 02 2013,13:49) Wow, Journey, they are “”leading men to their deaths””?? Really? That is a huge statement for you to make. Millions of Adventists have been led to death? I disagree.
And, you never answered my earlier post.
I will say it again:
..it seems that according to you three, every single person who has ever come to know God in times past and today were not in truth at all, and will need to be retaught – by (you?) sometime future despite there being seen before the throne of God a number too numerous to count from out of every tribe, tongue, nation and people.
A number too numerous for any man to count.
2Besee.You dont know that the top leaders of the sda have been paid lump somes of money to preach the wrong thing.THEY WILL ACCEPT THE REAL NUMBER AND REJECT THE WRONG SUNDAY MARK.
Born again christians with their imaginary wings are happy with the doctrine they have received.
Sorry to disapoint you;but only a LITTLE FLOCK will be accepted.For many are called but a FEW chosen.A FEW means a FEW.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,What does “Few” mean?
Many are called, but “Few” were chosen to write “the Gospel of Jesus Christ”.
“our (Apostle) hands have handled, of the Word of life (writing the bible);” (1 John 1:1)
“For he (Shaool) is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles” (Acts 9:15)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Feb. 02 2013,17:11) Hi Wakeup, What does “Few” mean?
Many are called, but “Few” were chosen to write “the Gospel of Jesus Christ”.
“our (Apostle) hands have handled, of the Word of life (writing the bible);” (1 John 1:1)
“For he (Shaool) is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles” (Acts 9:15)God bless
Ed J
“And when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto me,
and saying in the Hebrew tongue, Shaool, Shaool, why persecutest thou me?
(me refers to resurrected Jesus Christ) it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks. (Acts 26:14)Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 02 2013,17:17) Quote (2besee @ Feb. 02 2013,13:49) Wow, Journey, they are “”leading men to their deaths””?? Really? That is a huge statement for you to make. Millions of Adventists have been led to death? I disagree.
And, you never answered my earlier post.
I will say it again:
..it seems that according to you three, every single person who has ever come to know God in times past and today were not in truth at all, and will need to be retaught – by (you?) sometime future despite there being seen before the throne of God a number too numerous to count from out of every tribe, tongue, nation and people.
A number too numerous for any man to count.
2Besee.You dont know that the top leaders of the sda have been paid lump somes of money to preach the wrong thing.THEY WILL ACCEPT THE REAL NUMBER AND REJECT THE WRONG SUNDAY MARK.
Born again christians with their imaginary wings are happy with the doctrine they have received.
Sorry to disapoint you;but only a LITTLE FLOCK will be accepted.For many are called but a FEW chosen.A FEW means a FEW.
wakeup.
You are wrong.Rev.7
[1]After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth, that no wind might blow on earth or sea or against any tree.
[2] Then I saw another angel ascend from the rising of the sun, with the seal of the living God, and he called with a loud voice to the four angels who had been given power to harm earth and sea,
[3] saying, “Do not harm the earth or the sea or the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God upon their foreheads.”
[4] And I heard the number of the sealed, a hundred and forty-four thousand sealed, out of every tribe of the sons of Israel,
[5] twelve thousand sealed out of the tribe of Judah, twelve thousand of the tribe of Reuben, twelve thousand of the tribe of Gad,
[6] twelve thousand of the tribe of Asher, twelve thousand of the tribe of Naph'tali, twelve thousand of the tribe of Manas'seh,
[7] twelve thousand of the tribe of Simeon, twelve thousand of the tribe of Levi, twelve thousand of the tribe of Is'sachar,
[8] twelve thousand of the tribe of Zeb'ulun, twelve thousand of the tribe of Joseph, twelve thousand sealed out of the tribe of Benjamin.
[9]After this I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no man could number, from every nation, from all tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, with palm branches in their hands,
[10] and crying out with a loud voice, “Salvation belongs to our God who sits upon the throne, and to the Lamb!”
[11] And all the angels stood round the throne and round the elders and the four living creatures, and they fell on their faces before the throne and worshiped God,
[12] saying, “Amen! Blessing and glory and wisdom and thanksgiving and honor and power and might be to our God for ever and ever! Amen.”
[13]Then one of the elders addressed me, saying, “Who are these, clothed in white robes, and whence have they come?”
[14] I said to him, “Sir, you know.” And he said to me, “These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
[15] Therefore are they before the throne of God,
and serve him day and night within his temple;
and he who sits upon the throne will shelter them with his
presence.
[16] They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more;
the sun shall not strike them, nor any scorching heat.
[17] For the Lamb in the midst of the throne will be their shepherd,
and he will guide them to springs of living water;
and God will wipe away every tear from their eyes.”this is all of the saved which no man can number from every tribe (not the 12 tribes), nation, people and tongue who have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the lamb.
Sorry to disappoint you.
Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 02 2013,17:17) Quote (2besee @ Feb. 02 2013,13:49) Wow, Journey, they are “”leading men to their deaths””?? Really? That is a huge statement for you to make. Millions of Adventists have been led to death? I disagree.
And, you never answered my earlier post.
I will say it again:
..it seems that according to you three, every single person who has ever come to know God in times past and today were not in truth at all, and will need to be retaught – by (you?) sometime future despite there being seen before the throne of God a number too numerous to count from out of every tribe, tongue, nation and people.
A number too numerous for any man to count.
2Besee.You dont know that the top leaders of the sda have been paid lump somes of money to preach the wrong thing.THEY WILL ACCEPT THE REAL NUMBER AND REJECT THE WRONG SUNDAY MARK.
Born again christians with their imaginary wings are happy with the doctrine they have received.
Sorry to disapoint you;but only a LITTLE FLOCK will be accepted.For many are called but a FEW chosen.A FEW means a FEW.
wakeup.
Wakeup and Journey,Matthew 7,
[15]
“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.
[16] You will know them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thorns, or figs from thistles?
[17] So, every sound tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears evil fruit.
[18] A sound tree cannot bear evil fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit.
[19] Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
[20] Thus you will know them by their fruits.
[21]“Not every one who says to me, `Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
[22] On that day many will say to me, `Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?'
[23] And then will I declare to them, `I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.'
[24]“Every one then who hears these words of mine and does them will be like a wise man who built his house upon the rock;
[25] and the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat upon that house, but it did not fall, because it had been founded on the rock.
[26] And every one who hears these words of mine and does not do them will be like a foolish man who built his house upon the sand;
[27] and the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell; and great was the fall of it.”Do you personally know any Adventists?
Do you know that they obey Gods commandments and have the faith of Jesus and the spirit of prophecy?Do you know their history?
They do not go to war,
They look after the temple (body),
They show humility by washing each others feet as in scripture.
They water baptize,They are spirit filled.
They are one of the fastest growing denominations today and why is that? Because of the three Angels message they believe.They have the fruit they have the numbers and they have love.
And they are just one example that I am using here, regarding the scriptures above, and because they understand prophecy.To say that God has not accomplished anything over the past 2000 years? Sorry but you are wrong.
Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 02 2013,17:16) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 02 2013,17:11) Hi Wakeup, What does “Few” mean?
Many are called, but “Few” were chosen to write “the Gospel of Jesus Christ”.
“our (Apostle) hands have handled, of the Word of life (writing the bible);” (1 John 1:1)
“For he (Shaool) is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles” (Acts 9:15)God bless
Ed J
“And when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto me,
and saying in the Hebrew tongue, Shaool, Shaool, why persecutest thou me?
(me refers to resurrected Jesus Christ) it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks. (Acts 26:14)
Hi Wakeup,“Few are Chosen”
Chosen to write the bible, NOT chosen to enter the Kingdom of God.
Would you not agree that Peter (2 Peter 3:16) seems to be referring
to the Apostle Paul's epistles here as being Scripture; do you agree or No?“As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some
things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest,
as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.”God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (journey42 @ Feb. 02 2013,17:28)
because they are programming their followers, those who are genuine and seeking the truth, to accept the mark of the beast.
For they say it is a spiritual mark, depending on who you worship, and has nothing to do with buying or selling (trade).I believe that it is a spiritual mark also.
“Then I saw another beast which rose out of the earth; it had two horns like a lamb and it spoke like a dragon.
It exercises all the authority of the first beast in its presence, and makes the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose mortal wound was healed.
It works great signs, even making fire come down from heaven to earth in the sight of men; and by the signs which it is allowed to work in the presence of the beast, it deceives those who dwell on earth, bidding them make an image for the beast which was wounded by the sword and yet lived; and it was allowed to give breath to the image of the beast so that the image of the beast should even speak, and to cause those who would not worship the image of the beast to be slain.
Also it causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave, to be marked on the right hand or the forehead, so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark, that is, the name of the beast or the number of its name.
This calls for wisdom: let him who has understanding reckon the number of the beast, for it is a human number, its number is six hundred and sixty-six.
Ok so, go back to the OT, to Deut 6, it says, regarding the commandments of God:
“Now this is the commandment, the statutes and the rules that the Lord your God commanded me to teach you, that you may do them in the land to which you are going over, to possess it, that you may fear the Lord your God, you and your son and your son’s son, by keeping all his statutes and his commandments, which I command you, all the days of your life, and that your days may be long. Hear therefore, O Israel, and be careful to do them, that it may go well with you, and that you may multiply greatly, as the Lord, the God of your fathers, has promised you, in a land flowing with milk and honey.
“Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might. And these words that I command you today shall be on your heart. You shall teach them diligently to your children, and shall talk of them when you sit in your house, and when you walk by the way, and when you lie down, and when you rise. You shall bind them as a sign on your hand, and they shall be as frontlets between your eyes. You shall write them on the doorposts of your house and on your gates.
Remember, Revelations is a book that is full of symbolism. The OT says to bind the commandments on the RIGHT HAND and as frontlets BETWEEN THE EYES (forehead).
Quote The SDA is only one of the religions set up by the occult. The illuminati. 'The SDA's are set up by the occult', you say?
'Woe to them who call evil good and good evil.'
Quote (2besee @ Feb. 02 2013,14:02) Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 02 2013,17:17) Quote (2besee @ Feb. 02 2013,13:49) Wow, Journey, they are “”leading men to their deaths””?? Really? That is a huge statement for you to make. Millions of Adventists have been led to death? I disagree.
And, you never answered my earlier post.
I will say it again:
..it seems that according to you three, every single person who has ever come to know God in times past and today were not in truth at all, and will need to be retaught – by (you?) sometime future despite there being seen before the throne of God a number too numerous to count from out of every tribe, tongue, nation and people.
A number too numerous for any man to count.
2Besee.You dont know that the top leaders of the sda have been paid lump somes of money to preach the wrong thing.THEY WILL ACCEPT THE REAL NUMBER AND REJECT THE WRONG SUNDAY MARK.
Born again christians with their imaginary wings are happy with the doctrine they have received.
Sorry to disapoint you;but only a LITTLE FLOCK will be accepted.For many are called but a FEW chosen.A FEW means a FEW.
wakeup.
Wakeup and Journey,Matthew 7,
[15]
“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.
[16] You will know them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thorns, or figs from thistles?
[17] So, every sound tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears evil fruit.
[18] A sound tree cannot bear evil fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit.
[19] Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
[20] Thus you will know them by their fruits.
[21]“Not every one who says to me, `Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
[22] On that day many will say to me, `Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?'
[23] And then will I declare to them, `I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.'
[24]“Every one then who hears these words of mine and does them will be like a wise man who built his house upon the rock;
[25] and the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat upon that house, but it did not fall, because it had been founded on the rock.
[26] And every one who hears these words of mine and does not do them will be like a foolish man who built his house upon the sand;
[27] and the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell; and great was the fall of it.”Do you personally know any Adventists?
Do you know that they obey Gods commandments and have the faith of Jesus and the spirit of prophecy?Do you know their history?
They do not go to war,
They look after the temple (body),
They show humility by washing each others feet as in scripture.
They water baptize,They are spirit filled.
They are one of the fastest growing denominations today and why is that? Because of the three Angels message they believe.They have the fruit they have the numbers and they have love.
And they are just one example that I am using here, regarding the scriptures above, and because they understand prophecy.To say that God has not accomplished anything over the past 2000 years? Sorry but you are wrong.
2beI assume from this quote that you are a member of the seven days Adventist right
Journey,
Do you believe that the ten commandments of God are not to be followed?
That they are no big thing?
Just as the fruit of the tree.And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, “You may freely eat of every tree of the garden;
but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall die.“Satan who was more SUBTLE than any other creature said: “Did God say, `You shall not eat of any tree of the garden'?”……..”You will not die!”.
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