At the 2nd coming .

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This is for the truth seekers only.

Who is going to be cast in the lake of fire burning with brimstone at the 2nd coming?
Rev.19:20.Only the beast, and the false prophet.(take note). (The beast= the 10 horned beast).

SATAN ESCAPED DEATH,BUT LOCKED UP FOR A 1000YRS.
AT THE 2ND COMING. NO SATAN FOR A 1000YRS.

AFTER THE 1000YRS : SATAN WILL GATHER HIS ARMIES.
Rev.20:10. Gog and Magog; **THEN** satan is cast in the lake of fire. ***WHERE THE BEAST, AND THE FALSE PROPHET ARE.** *ARE IN 1000YRS AGO*

1. AT THE 2ND COMING SATAN IS NOT HARMED; BUT LOCKED UP. ONLY THE FALSE PROPHET AND THE BEAST,ARE CAST IN THE FIRE.REV.19:20.

2. AFTER GOG AND MAGOG; **THEN** HE IS CAST IN THE FIRE.THIS IS 1000YRS AFTER THE BEAST AND THE FALSE PROPHET WERE CAST IN THE FIRE.
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The teaching you see below,is error:

1.Satan is now in prison for 1000 OR 2000yrs; but just before the 2nd coming satan will be let loose for a season.This is the reason the gospel can be preached.
And then cast in the lake of fire, at the 2nd coming.
(REV.19:20 DOES NOT SUPPORT THIS CLAIM).

BUT WHAT ABOUT THIS:? WHERE THE BEAST AND THE FALSE PROPHET ARE?? REV.20:10.
THIS MEANS THAT THE BEAST AND THE FALSE PROPHET WERE CAST IN THE FIRE,**1000YRS** BEFORE THE SECOND COMING??

HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE; WHEN THE SON OF PERDITION IS STILL TO COME AFTER THE FALLING AWAY;THEN THE 2ND COMING.

HOW CAN HE BE IN THE LAKE OF FIRE FOR 1000YRS BEFORE THE 2ND COMING?

THIS DOES NOT MAKE ANY SENSE.
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First; the beast and the false prophet cast in the fire; then satan cast in the fire,after Gog and Magog.
There is a 1000yr *SPAN* between the two happenings.

False prophet and beast first; ***1000yrs has past***,then satan cast in the fire.This is when death is conquered. After the white throne judgement.

wakeup.

February 1, 2013 at 9:13 pm#330845

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Wow, this thread looks like this thread.
Are you going to start a new thread every time
others show why they disagree with your conclusions?

February 1, 2013 at 9:13 pm#330846

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Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 02 2013,04:16)

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 02 2013,03:21)

2bee and others

this is usually a request that many feel ,wen they start to see that they will not be able to defend their own views ,with scriptures without twisting them,

just remember GODLY TRUTH is not truth that appears to us as right and true ,BUT TRUTH THAT IS AND REMAINS TRUE THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE SCRIPTURES ,

so your truth as to be true to GOD's ALL written word,

and should be explained accordingly ,if not ,WHAT YOU THEN UNDERSTAND WOULD ONLY BE YOUR OWN REFLECTION RIGHT yes

Terra.

With that I agree.

wakeup.

Imported from here

February 1, 2013 at 9:18 pm#330847

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Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 02 2013,07:13)

Wow, this thread looks like this thread.
Are you going to start a new thread every time
others show why they disagree with your conclusions?

Hi Wakeup,

Every time what Bodhitharta said was thoroughly refuted
he would start a new thread, pretending it never happened.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

February 1, 2013 at 11:18 pm#330860

942767

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Hi wakeup:

When Jesus comes for the church, the church will be caught up to meet him in the air, and those that are alive at that time who have received the mark of the beast or worshipped his image will be judged by the seven last plagues;

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Rev 16:2And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and [upon] them which worshipped his image.

It is true that only the beast and the false prophet are cast alive into the lake of fire, but the scripture states:

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Rev 19:13 And he [was] clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

Rev 19:14 And the armies [which were] in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

Rev 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. ATTENTION J42

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Rev 19:19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

Rev 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

Rev 19:21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which [sword] proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

And when satan is bound for 1000 years, he is bound because all of humanity are dead at this point. After the 1000 year period, those who died in their sins, will be resurrected, Satan will be released from his prison, and those resurrected will be judged according to their works. The devil will then be cast into the lake of fire where the beast and false prophet are and he will be tormented forever. (Rev. 20)

Love in Christ,
Marty

February 2, 2013 at 12:31 am#330872

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Quote (942767 @ Feb. 02 2013,09:18)

Hi wakeup:

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It is true that only the beast and the false prophet are cast alive into the lake of fire, but the scripture states:

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Rev 19:13 And he [was] clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

Rev 19:14 And the armies [which were] in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

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Rev 19:19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

Rev 19:21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which [sword] proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

Love in Christ,
Marty

Hi Marty.

I agree with the last part exept a few details.

1. When christ comes,the FIRST FRUITS will meet him in the air,and the rest has to go through the great tribulation,and given white robes.
rev.7:14.

2. The 7 trumpets is before the coming,because the 7th trumpet is the last trump:and thats the coming.

3.Satan in prisoned for 1000yrs.

4. The kingdom set up for 1000yrs,the resurrected saints will rule over the remnant of the jews that also has been brought back from the grave,by choice.

5.The jews also will teach the remnant of the gentiles out side.

6.Satan let loose after 1000yrs; he will gather all that still refuse the Lord. And surround the kingdom.

7.Satan and all with him cast in the fire,BY GOD.

8. The white throne judgement.Sheep on right/goats on left.(judgement of all people that ever lived on earth).
Judged by the books.

9.Goats cast in the fire/ the sheep accepted.

10. Earth and heavens melted/new heavens and a new earth.

11. God on earth,and we see him face to face.

wakeup.

February 2, 2013 at 12:39 am#330876

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Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 02 2013,07:13)

Wow, this thread looks like this thread.
Are you going to start a new thread every time
others show why they disagree with your conclusions?

EDJ.

If you still dont understand,I will repeat it if necessary.
This is important to know.This is seeing the kingdom of God as clear as crystal.

I know you refuse to see,because you are not free to see,and you are not strong enough to resist.

wakeup.

February 2, 2013 at 12:44 am#330877

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Not strong enough to resist what?

February 2, 2013 at 12:50 am#330879

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Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 02 2013,10:44)

Not strong enough to resist what?

EdJ..

Your big ego,your pride.
You can not give up your comfortable nest with no eggs.
You have been robbed, but dont care.

wakeup.

February 2, 2013 at 3:11 am#330890

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Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 02 2013,07:13)

Wow, this thread looks like this thread.
Are you going to start a new thread every time
others show why they disagree with your conclusions?

Those old threads are dead. You guys did not understand it then, and great length was taken to explain to you. The word is still alive, and it has not died. It continues to flow. You try to put it back in the corner but it doesn't work like that.

February 2, 2013 at 3:14 am#330891

2besee

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Quote (journey42 @ Feb. 02 2013,15:11)

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 02 2013,07:13)

Wow, this thread looks like this thread.
Are you going to start a new thread every time
others show why they disagree with your conclusions?

Hi Journey,
And vice versa.

Let me ask you three, do you believe that only you three have the absolute truth in the world today?

February 2, 2013 at 3:17 am#330892

2besee

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Because, it seems that according to you three, every single person who has ever come to know God in times past and today were not in truth at all, and will need to be retaught – by (you?) sometime future despite there being seen before the throne of God a number too numerous to count from out of every tribe, tongue, nation and people.

A number too numerous for any man to count.

February 2, 2013 at 3:21 am#330893

2besee

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And what of the Adventists who have studied prophecy and reached their conclusions that are, from what I can see, pretty accurate in many ways, they have a good knowledge of prophecy, and their fruit is millions of baptized and changed people, as an example. Yet, their prophecy is different than yours in many ways.

February 2, 2013 at 3:30 am#330894

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Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 02 2013,10:50)

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 02 2013,10:44)

Not strong enough to resist what?

EdJ..

Your big ego,your pride.
You can not give up your comfortable nest with no eggs.
You have been robbed, but dont care.

wakeup.

Hi Wakeup,

Don't have an 'ego', because I killed it long ago. As a
matter of fact, it was my suggestion that T8 start the thread:
Have you learned something new; have you changed your mind?
It's a good place to categorize what a blessing this forum is to the believer.
And as usual, even that thread has been used (by the less mature) to criticize others.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

February 2, 2013 at 3:33 am#330895

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Quote (journey42 @ Feb. 02 2013,13:11)

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 02 2013,07:13)

Wow, this thread looks like this thread.
Are you going to start a new thread every time
others show why they disagree with your conclusions?

Those old threads are dead. You guys did not understand it then, and great length was taken to explain to you. The word is still alive, and it has not died. It continues to flow. You try to put it back in the corner but it doesn't work like that.

Hi Journey42,

What is that suppose to mean?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

February 2, 2013 at 3:34 am#330896

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Attention: Marty

Smiting the nations and putting them into the lake of fire are two different things. Nobody gets cast into the lake of fire just yet at his coming. Only the beast (the system of Babylon) and the false prophet.

When every knee bows to Christ, it will NOT just be for fear of their lives, although they will be totally frightened, but it will be to worship him.. There will be survivors who never knew Christ, who will now see him for who he really is, Lord of Lords, King of Kings. They will be grateful that they have been spared, although they have been through a most horrible punishment, with all the plagues, and war, and many would of lost loved ones and family. They will suffer much loss, through these plagues, but some will be spared. These ones will bow to Christ, for he stops their affliction and they are grateful. They will recognise his mercy. But they will not be permitted to live in the kingdom. Only outside. The truth will flow out of the kingdom to them. They will be fed proper food now.

Only the very wicked are killed at Christ's coming.. These are the ones that will not repent.

Rev 9:20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood which neither can see, nor hear.

No one is thrown into the lake of fire until the white throne judgement, which happens a thousand years later after Christ's return.

February 2, 2013 at 3:37 am#330897

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Quote (2besee @ Feb. 02 2013,13:14)

Quote (journey42 @ Feb. 02 2013,15:11)

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 02 2013,07:13)

Wow, this thread looks like this thread.
Are you going to start a new thread every time
others show why they disagree with your conclusions?

Hi Journey,
And vice versa.

Let me ask you three, do you believe that only you three have the absolute truth in the world today?

Hi 2Besse,

No, there are 144,000 in total to be precise.

February 2, 2013 at 3:41 am#330898

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Quote (2besee @ Feb. 02 2013,13:17)

A number too numerous for any man to count.

2 Bese

Most on here are singing are different song to the one we have learn't.

We are only trying to guide you back to the truth. We cannot hide what we know under a bed. We can only stimulate your minds, and take you to those scriptures so you can look and look and look again at them, and only if God is willing, he will open your eyes.

February 2, 2013 at 3:43 am#330899

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Quote (2besee @ Feb. 02 2013,13:21)

2Besse

You cannot see their errors, for you are still learning. It sounds good to you what they say, for you do not know any different. Once you have received the full truth, you will recognise that they have twisted a lot of scripture, and are leading men to their deaths.

February 2, 2013 at 3:46 am#330900