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- November 6, 2014 at 7:04 pm#782719WakeupParticipant
ARMAGEDDON ACCORDING TO THE CHRISTIAN WORLD,WHICH IS ERROR.
What the Christian world teach, regarding the second coming. armageddon.
The Christian world teach that The second coming will be armageddon and gog and magog.
And the earth will be melted, and a new earth created.
All Christians will be taken up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air.
This means all the gentiles will be melted, burned to ashes.
This alone causes a lot of problems. Some say the coming will not be seen, because Christ will come as a thief.
But this is only for them that are asleep. Prophesies tell us when Christ is coming, clear as crystal.Some say the Vatican will be destroyed, some say New York will be destroyed.
Some say Mecca will be destroyed. But then they also say that the earth will melt?
Some say Babylon is the Vatican, some say New York, some say Mecca.
The angel said come out of her my people, so you will not receive her plagues. We are not all catholics, we are not all of New York, we are not all muslems, are we? But we are all in or of Babylon; the world.
The angel said Babylon will be destroyed. And scriptures also says the world will be destroyed.
The cities of the nations means the world; does it it not?THIS IN SHORT IS HOW THE CHRISTIAN WORLD INTERPRET BABYON AND ARMAGEDDON.
WHICH ARE IN ERROR. SEE THE REASONS WHY. I HAVE NO NEED TO QUOTE SCRIPTURES,
ASSUMING THAT YOU KNOW THEM.Armageddon is not the only war, because Armageddon will only last one day.
Jesus said He will cut short the war, for the elect sake. you need not to cut short a one day war.
This war is a war of men against men.(the 3rd ww). This war will be cut short, not the war against the Lamb
which only will last one day.The harlot sitting on the seven heads to them is the Vatican, or New York, or some other.
But the harlot is sitting on the seven heads, starting with the first head, which is Egypt.?
The harlot is pictured as a woman. Woman in scripture means a believe system.(religion).
This woman is worshipped by the world since Egypt.(first head).This women is still worshipped by the world today. Still sitting on the seventh head. The eight is coming soon.
This woman is world trade and commerce, loved by the world because of all her delicacies.
All her goods, which is material. She causes all the wars because of greed.The world love pleasure more than God.
Worshipping all the material that she can provide. Worshipping things made by mans hands.
Yes; all are also guilty of this. We love pleasure without considering God; He is put on the back burner.
Does not mean we can not have pleasure; live, but stay in line.The second coming is with a sword to destroy Babylon’s structures, and the system.
The angels will do the harvest. The grapes will be gathered to one place then put through the wine press.
Many will die but not all. The true followers of Christ will be resurrected in spirit form.(quickened).
The rest of the dead will stay in their graves waiting for the second resurrection.
The remnants of the gentiles will be spared. The chosen jews will be brought back to life, in the flesh Ez.37.
The kingdom will be set up in Israel. The jews will be the population of the kingdom.
They will live in paradise.
The left over gentiles will be the population of the world, that is full of rubble, with all the wild animals.
The kingdom will only be for one thousand years.
The kingdom is not yet, because we can see it by the fruits.
Things have been bad all along the past and is getting worse, and worse, and the falling away is still coming.
They say; this is because satan is released from his prison. Not so,
because there have been wars and murder,through out history.
There was never peace on earth. When Christ rules it will be with a rod of iron.(strict).
There will be no wars, pain, sorrows, tears; spears turned into pruning hooks.
These are the fruits of Christ ruling.
Seek the scriptures and you will see the kingdom that is your inheritance, and also will enter in later.
All things will be yours.Shalom.
wakeup.November 6, 2014 at 10:01 pm#782728CamilliaParticipantNo. Most of the Christian world today believe as you do. Why do you think you are the minority when you are not?
Amilenialism or Historicism is truth imo, and they are not the majority. So, again you need to rename your thread. perhaps to.. “Armageddon according to a Minority”.
November 6, 2014 at 10:38 pm#782730WakeupParticipantHi Camellia.
Can you post scriptures to proof me wrong for others to see?
wakeup.
November 6, 2014 at 10:55 pm#782731CamilliaParticipantHi Wakeup.
No, you seem to say that you and your believers are a very small minority, when in fact you are following the majority – did you know that? Most people today believe the millennium is still future and can’t see the reality in front of their eyes that those in Christ are in the millennium (have found the peace and security), etc. You also disbelieve, like the majority, that Satan was bound at the cross, because scripture says he was. Do you Know who the strongman is? So much more… I hope you will see the truth regarding this one day Wakeup. Take care…
November 6, 2014 at 10:56 pm#782732CamilliaParticipantHi t8.
Why do some posts show up in bold ?
November 7, 2014 at 7:05 am#782744NickHassanParticipantHi Cam,
The disasters caused by Satan that inflicted Job have been in evidence since the cross.
Your basis is faulty.
November 7, 2014 at 10:22 am#782755CamilliaParticipantHi Nick, so you say.
But was Satan bound?
Who is the strongman?When the scribes accused Jesus of casting out demons through the power of Beelzebul, Jesus, knowing the demons were being cast out through the Holy Spirit said to them ““No one can enter a strong man’s house and plunder his goods, unless he first binds the strong man; then indeed he may plunder his house” So Christis power over demons was evidence that He had indeed entered the strong mans house and plundered his goods by binding the strongman. Christ had power over Satan. That is why He said : “Behold, I have given you authority to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing will injure you.”, and “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.”.
Hebrews also states: “Since the children share in flesh and blood, He Himself likewise also partook of the same, that through death He might render powerless him who had the power of death, that is, the devil”. Do you see there that the devil is “powerless” because Jesus rendered him so? We can either go about with our head buried in the sand, or we can believe in the power of God, and what He has achieved.
“And he laid hold of the dragon, the serpent of old, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years; and he threw him into the abyss, and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he would not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were completed.”
November 7, 2014 at 10:25 am#782756CamilliaParticipantThat is not to say that Satan cannot get to people, nor his “henchmen”, because they sure can. “Be of sober spirit, be on the alert. Your adversary, the devil, prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour. But resist him, firm in your faith, knowing that the same experiences of suffering are being accomplished by your brethren who are in the world. After you have suffered for a little while, the God of all grace, who called you to His eternal glory in Christ, will Himself perfect, confirm, strengthen and establish you. To Him be dominion forever and ever. Amen.”
Being “bound” is not being “ended”. Picture a lion if you will on a long chain – it can certainly devour people *if they get too close*, which people do through various means. And he certainly will be “released for a short time”.
November 7, 2014 at 10:17 pm#782790WakeupParticipantCamellia.
Not so.
They believe the kingdom comes after the second coming ,but that is where it stops.
With no further details given. They believe that the war of gog and magog is also Armageddon.
No details given regarding the kingdom of God which also is paradise.
They also believe that the earth will melt at the coming.
They are far apart regarding after the second coming, and much more.wakeup.
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